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danox said:

charlesn said:

9secondkox2 said:

The large iMac can do everything a Mac Studio can do, only with less of s footprint, less of a hassle, and look better doing it. 

It’s a win in every way. The only hurdle is that it’s s better DEAL than the Mac Studio, since it will be harder for Apple to hide the price gouging. 

So you're thinking that Tim called a meeting and it went something like this: "I've been looking at sales of the iMac Pro 27" and they're off-the-charts. An incredibly successful product for us. We're making inroads with creatives in corporations that haven't bought from us in this kind of volume before. SO... let's kill it. We really can't price gouge on this the way we'd like, so let's EOL the iMac Pro and move on to a much more expensive 2-piece system that delivers the profit we want."

You really think that's Apple's calculation? Please. I don't know if the iMac Pro or even an iMac 27" is ever coming back. I tend to think not given that we don't even hear rumors of it. And if the iMac Pro doesn't come back in some form, I have no doubt that a lack of sufficient sales of its previous iteration is the reason. Yes, there will be people clamoring for a new pro-performance, bigger screen all-in-one... just not enough of them. People also seem to forget that the current M-driven iMac 24" is already a very powerful machine--this wasn't just a speed bump of an Intel chip--and will only get more so as the M-chip evolves. Personally, I had been an iMac 27" buyer from the day it was first available and I had real concerns when I switched to the 24" that it would feel cramped. Well, that thought has never crossed my mind once in the two years that I've owned it. 

Monitor-tech evolves much more slowly than computer-tech, giving monitors a much longer useful lifespan before becoming outdated. Clearly, for large volumes of buyers. a monitor/computer set-up makes more sense. Keep the monitor and upgrade your computer as necessary. (And I say that as someone who has always preferred an all-in-one.) Apple could have killed off the Mac Mini, and many people thought they would... instead, they gave it a top-to-bottom rebuild in its last iteration, and you don't make that kind of investment in a product that's not selling. More to be revealed about Apple's commitment to the Mac Studio future at WWDC.  

The death of the butterfly keyboard, MagSafe coming back, and the drop in Mac sales says otherwise, Apple will need to do something to address the drop in Mac desktop sales.

The mini Studio is a slap in the face to those who bought 27 inch iMac’s, hopefully they will rectify that at WWDC and they need to, or Mac desktop sales will remain stagnant through the end of 2023, and since they can’t seem to get the Pro Mac out the door, it’s now come down to one or the other, a new Pro Mac or a new big screen iMac before the end of the year.

9secondkox2 said:

timmillea said:

The Mac Studio is a design monstrosity and should never have been produced by Apple. I agree that it was probably an interim product before the Apple Silicon Mac Pro could be released. Even so, it was a terrible mistake, tarnishing the design credentials of a design-focussed brand. 

A 15" MacBook Air, if true, would be a further dilution of the brand. The MBA is a small and light laptop that fits in an envelope. 

Since Sir Jony Ive left, Apple appears to have lost its way.

There is a momentum from previous successes but any more crap from Apple will start to impact. 

There is and will ever be only one Jony Ive. 

Why Cook didn’t do more to keep him, I’ll never know. Outside of jobs, Ive was THE soul of Apple. 

It’s definitely a different Apple now and not for the better. But… Jobs and Ive were so amazing, influential and competent at passing down their ethos that Apple is still and will continue to be far and away ahead of everyone else. Just wish it had the same level of care. 

timmillea said:

The Mac Studio is a design monstrosity and should never have been produced by Apple. I agree that it was probably an interim product before the Apple Silicon Mac Pro could be released. Even so, it was a terrible mistake, tarnishing the design credentials of a design-focussed brand. 

A 15" MacBook Air, if true, would be a further dilution of the brand. The MBA is a small and light laptop that fits in an envelope. 

Since Sir Jony Ive left, Apple appears to have lost its way.

There is a momentum from previous successes but any more crap from Apple will start to impact. 

JP234 said:

StrangeDays said:

red oak said:

AI_lias said:

Imagine a 15” Air (thinner and lighter than other 15” laptops) which Apple will also cripple with only one external display. Because that’s who Apple is now, and that’s what they think of their customers. 

Exactly.  This is why Apple computer market share is increasing dramatically 

Citation needed

However, market share is not the interesting metric. For consumers it’s quality. For investors, it’s revenue and profit. By your logic McDonald’s has the best burger. Lol

You seem to have compartmentalized three factors that are actually interdependent. Market share derives from quality. Revenue and profit derive from quality AND market share. In effect, everything begins with quality. And to quote Steve Jobs, "One Last Thing:" plenty of Apple consumers are Apple investors, and vice-versa. None of your metrics stand alone or have any inherent meaning without the other 3.

timmillea said:

In what way could a 15" laptop possibly be a MacBook Air? The current 13" model is already a stretch. The MBA concept is a 'premium ultraportable'. A 15" fan-less design would simply be MacBook. The new 13" should be MacBook. A new MacBook Air would be as hated by Americans as the original - small, compromised and very expensive - but loved in the Far East.