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omasou said:

crowley said:

The different front ports may affect which model you buy

I'd love to hear from someone who would lay down $2,000 extra just for a couple of Thunderbolt ports.

Seriously, not like a cable can't be plugged in the back and laying on the table for connecting things. Never really understood front ports on computers and other video equipment, etc. Seems like a left over idea from tower computers under a desk.

I would have preferred to see a clean front with no additional ports and the SD slot moved to the side but I get the convenance for those that use them a lot.

Detnator said:

shareef777 said:

sflocal said:

shareef777 said:

KBuffett said:

Does anyone know if this can be used with a PC?

This is the LG 5K in an aluminum shell.

LG has always provided the LCD screens to Apple.  Heck, my 2020 5K iMac is probably using an LG panel.  What's your point?

It's it's just not a "shell", but you keep going with your narrative.

Jesus, you apple fanboys are unbearable. If a comment isn't a glowing review of Apple it's "narrative". It's the same design as the LG 5K (no buttons, built-in camera, speakers,  4 ports on the back, and single uplink cable design). Sure it has newer tech in it, sure AF would hope so after 6 years,but it's functionally the same as the LG 5K but in a prettier shell. Point is that it's NOT anything revolutionary compared to the LG 5K.

Ya'll acting like it's a dis somehow. I love my pair of LG 5Ks and think this is a great replacement for them. Wouldn't get one myself because of the higher cost, but happy for those that got the money for it.

If what you're saying here were true, they'd all be very good points, but it's just not.  I hear your frustration with those responding to you, but they're right. The following is probably overkill to make the point, but you're not getting it from the shorter replies of others, so here it is in detail...

LG 5K:

• 500 nits
• USB3 5GBps
• 14lb
• 1080p camera (~2MP)
• Crappy speakers
• Crappy mic
• Terrible build quality with persistent hardware issues
• Woeful LG customer support
• $1300

Apple Studio 5K: 

• 600 nits + True Tone
• USB3 10Gbps
• 12lb
• 12MP camera (6x the pixels, + Center Stage)
• High quality 3 mic array, directional beam forming (if these are anything like the MBP mics then they're amazing)
• Superior speakers (+ spatial audio)
• Excellent build quality (presumably, if it's typical Apple).
• Best in class customer support
• built in A13 CPU
• $1600

Bottom line, other than the 5K resolution part, it's nothing like the LG 5K. Hardly anyone is complaining that you're dissing it. The problem with your comment is it's just plain wrong.

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You said "...it's functionally the same as the LG 5K but in a prettier shell."  and "Point is that it's NOT anything revolutionary compared to the LG 5K."

Those are two very different statements:

• The second is true: sure, it's not revolutionary. It's not supposed to be. 
• The first is false. It doesn't have to be revolutionary to be functionally different, and this display is significantly "functionally" different to the LG 5K.

What do you expect "revolutionary" to be in a mid-tier display? The XDR is revolutionary, and comes with the corresponding price tag. Many (myself included) were disappointed, justifiably, that the XDR is too expensive for our needs. The XDR price is worth it for the features it brings to the relatively small group of high end users it is meant for. But what about the rest of us?

At the other end is all the cheap stuff that Samsung, Dell, LG, etc. make, for < $1K, that all (comparatively) suck. Sure, 4K, 150 dpi, low brightness, washed out color, crappy/no camera/speakers/mic, etc. is fine for a lot of people -- most people, arguably -- and that's great. Good for them (really). But that doesn't meet the needs of some of us.

When you're on the road with a 220+ dpi, 500+ nits, True Tone, amazingly clear MBP display or even the iPhone/iPad displays, and you're used to it, then come back to home/office to washed out, 150 dpi, 350 nits, etc. it's jarring, a strain on the eyes, and a strain on productivity for those of us who make a living with our gear.

So what about that group? In the middle, there's been this gaping hole (in both products, and users who don't need the XDR features, but want more than washed out 4K, 150dpi, 350 nits, etc). The iMac 5K display sits very nicely in that hole, but we couldn't get that for our MBP or Mac mini, without the built in Mac, nor with Apple's build quality, customer service, etc...  Until today.

It's $300 more than the LG, which seems pretty darn reasonable for all the improvements it adds, for the people it's targeted at. As with all Apple products, for the people it is not targeted at, it's a lousy choice, but that's fine because those people have plenty of other choices. But for those of us in the above mentioned hole, this is what we've been waiting for since the Thunderbolt Display was discontinued 10+ years ago.

Those "unbearable ... apple fanboys" (careful with that phrase -- might want to check the forum rules) are faulting your comments, not because they aren't glowing reviews, but because they're just plain wrong.

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