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  • Germany wants Apple to offer iPhone updates and parts for 7 years

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    ivanh said:
    Not only updates, but also equal level and priority of services.  No planned obsolescence. No discrimination of older devices to access of services. Other nations in the world should follow Germany.

    That would mean no new CPU chips or GPU chips. And real fun with Windows 10 vs 11 and can you say TPM. And no new WIFI or cell phone standards.
    baconstangFidonet127watto_cobra

  • Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law

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    tylersdad said:
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    rob53 said:
    Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.
    So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.

    Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?
    No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users. 

    It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription). 

    You well pay for use of their server. And you well be kicked off if your app has malware.
    Why would I use their server? My customers are able to download apps from my website and install them. 

    We are talking about iOS app store. Not the Mac app store.
    What difference does that make? An app is an app. An iPhone or an iPad is just another type of computer. 
    iPhone or an iPad apps are not on the MAC app store also. Mac apps are Pro apps and are not all down loaded from the Mac app store.
    You're missing the point. Apps are just apps. Regardless of the platform they run on. There's nothing special about a Mac or Windows app in comparison to an iPhone or iPad app. There is no technical reason for me to not be able to distribute iPhone or iPad apps directly to my customers. Apple only forces me to use the App Store so that they can take 30% of my sales...ostensibly to pay for the infrastructure needed to support the app store. But I only need to use their infrastructure because they're FORCING me to use their infrastructure. I'd prefer to NOT use it. 

    I get that you don't want to use the iOS App Store and you want to load your Apps without using the App Store. So who's store services are you going to use or are you going to run your own store. Because of managing that may not be as cheap as you think and you may have to have your Apps signed by Apple anyway.
    watto_cobra

  • Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law

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    crowley said:
    killroy said:

    iPhone or an iPad apps are not on the MAC app store also. 
    Some of them are.
    M1 Macs yes.
    Mac apps are Pro apps 
    Most of them aren't.
    and are not all down loaded from the Mac app store.
    Yeah?  That's one of the things that this South Korea law is looking to apply to the iOS App Store.


    crowley said:
    killroy said:

    iPhone or an iPad apps are not on the MAC app store also. 
    Some of them are.
    Mac apps are Pro apps 
    Most of them aren't.
    and are not all down loaded from the Mac app store.
    Yeah?  That's one of the things that this South Korea law is looking to apply to the iOS App Store.

    Would say the iOS App Store is for mobile devices and the Mac App Store is not. Now some developers don't want their iOS Apps running on M1 MACs and some do.

    watto_cobra

  • Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law

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    tylersdad said:
    killroy said:
    tylersdad said:
    rob53 said:
    Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.
    So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.

    Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?
    No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users. 

    It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription). 

    You well pay for use of their server. And you well be kicked off if your app has malware.
    Why would I use their server? My customers are able to download apps from my website and install them. 

    We are talking about iOS app store. Not the Mac app store.
    jahbladewatto_cobraurahara

  • Pay up or get out: Apple's options for South Korea's App Store law

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    tylersdad said:
    rob53 said:
    Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.
    So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.

    Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?
    No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users. 

    It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription). 

    You well pay for use of their server. And you well be kicked off if your app has malware.
    jbdragonmwhitejahbladewatto_cobra