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macplusplus said:

omasou said:

macplusplus said:

Apple should shut down iCloud instead of developing a mass surveillance method for the government.

It is NOT a mass surveillance method for the government. It is a system for REPORTING CSAM and designed to be an advocate for and to protect children.

If we see or are aware of CSAM we should report it. Apple can SEE and be AWARE of CSAM w/o violating anyone's privacy and SHOULD report it.

OK. Why do they monitor my device from within? They can scan their servers for any abusive material. User backups on iCloud are stored unencrypted and law enforcement can always access those backups with a search warrant. They can perform the same CSAM hash checking on their iCloud servers as well.

The fact that they are bringing the monitoring right into my device shows that they might be following a totally different agenda than preventing child abuse. They may be trying to permanently implement something onto user devices which scope may extend to God knows where...

foregoneconclusion said:

Rayz2016 said:

Yup, this basically. 

Not sure what the EFF expects when it comes to laws passed by authoritarian governments. The only options would be to comply or leave the market. If every private company leaves the market, then state run companies will fill the void. So on the one hand you can say "we're not participating", but on the other you would have to admit that you haven't changed anything per protections for the people that live in the country. 

netrox said:

The fact that people are freaking out over the implementation of Apple's detection of child pornography shows that they have absolutely no ability to think logically and understand that they have no risk if they don't distribute child pornography.  

It's simple as that. Literally. 

Also, the government has your ID, your SSN, your taxes, your public records, your passports, your registrations, your work history, your residence, and so on. You ain't that private as you think you are.