jahaja

I just updated and it says my SSD is now APFS. Regardless of this, it asks me if I want encryption with FileVault. But I thought FileVault was now built-into APFS? Isn't the volume already encrypted?

rob53 said:

jahaja said:

Does anyone here have experience of updating from Sierra, using FileVault, to High Sierra which apparently does not have any FileVault since encryption is included from the get-go?

High Sierra does not format SSD's with encryption by default, at least not during the beta releases. To make sure nothing messed up on my MBP, I turned FV off a couple days ago. Once HS shows up I'll go ahead and install it, seeing if it gives me the option to run APFS+encrypted. If not, I'll turn encryption on while booting from an external drive. I've run beta versions of HS with encryption and it takes awhile (just like FV) to encrypt the entire disk.

Remember, if you are running a Fusion drive and maybe a HDD, it won't give you the option to format as APFS. I'd check Apple's website to see what they say about updating to an existing FV-encryption drive if you're not running a SSD. 

Thanks! I'm on SSD so for that sake all should be fine. I will do just like you said: turn off encryption, backup and then go High Sierra, backup again and then see what possible encryption it may offer. Very logic way to do it indeed :-) 

Does anyone here have experience of updating from Sierra, using FileVault, to High Sierra which apparently does not have any FileVault since encryption is included from the get-go?

I guess that in just a few years, cellphones will be powerful enough to be our main computers in life and by simply connecting a stand-alone screen and a keyboard, it converts into running a full-scale OS system. Separate laptops, iPads and Apple TV will be obsolete.

The only thing that could hamper this evolution would be the decrease in number of items people would need to buy, i.e. loss of sales. However, the mobile device will be more premium and worth a higher price, and the secondary devices like stand-alone screens, Apple Watch and wireless earphones, will be the same. Furthermore, I think this evolution is a reason that Apple is investing heavily in content.

So all in all, the future would be:

• A phone with processing power and storage space enough to replace not only our current phones, but also our iPads, laptops, "home computers" and Apple TV
• Separate screens to connect wirelessly for when we need larger screen estate or to run full-scale OS. In most households one 10-15" to replace the iPad and one 30" and above to replace the home computer and the TV.
• An Apple Watch or similar for the most mobile situations.

Another option, of course, is sharing processors and storage space at a centralized location like a cloud service, and all devices consisting of simply a screen and processing and signal transmission enough to communicate with these. However, speed and privacy would be an issue. The benefit, of course, would be sharing processors and storage space so that none is redundant. Cheaper and more efficient. Plus, no need for backups as this would also be automatic and in much safer hands than our homes – if we can trust the service provider.

I dont mind the USB-C thing, or the magsafe lacking. But only two ports for the 13" and no chance of 2 TB storage is a deal breaker.

Plus, it is way too prices outside of the US – around 30-50% plus on the US prices. Topping up ram to what should be standard 16 GB, and storage to 1 TB, makes it a minimum 3000 USD buy in Europe. Crazy.