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Soli said:

This would likely only be for final assembly, not for manufacturing.

rogifan_new said:

theothergeoff said:

the spotify content comes from spotify.  Apple also provides
- the DRM to trust the app is truly an unadulterated app from spotify
- The CDN to download the app.
- User notifications that the App has been updated
- A comments and review section for marketing the application

In short, it provides a permanent software marketplace..   30% is a reasonable amount to showcase your wares, and 15% is reasonable to maintain the customer relationship year over year. 

As noted elsewhere, Spotify could easily put up a 'free' app and forgo inapp purchases, and sell subscriptions at a web page (e.g. netflix).  But they don't.  Something tells me that the Apple has created a marketplace that consumers want to shop, and for that, there should be a price of admission for the vendors who want to set up a booth, and use the in store Point of Sale system.

Everything you mention here is also something Apple provides for free apps. CNN isn't paying Apple anything outside of the developer license fee yet they receive all the benefits you mentioned above. What is Apple providing Spotify that they're not providing CNN (outside of cc payment processing)? This isn't about the things you listed, it's about Spotify being a revenue generating app and Apple feeling they deserve a cut of it. The argument is whether Apple is right and if they are what that cut should be.

Spotify did what they did to get attention. They will re-submit an app removing any redirect out of the App Store but I doubt they will bring back IAP (Audible had it but removed it once Amazon acquired it; I think it was the same with Comixology). Users will sign up in the browser (which they can do now) and Apple won't get a cut of anything.

rogifan_new said:

radarthekat said:

So, in your mind Apple is the greedy one.  Apple isn't merely facilitating payment, they also developed the tools and programming libraries that make creation of apps for iOS possible.  And they developed iOS too.  And the hardware it runs on.  What Sopify is delivering through the App Store is not equivalent to what Amazon is delivering to its customers through its app.  Amazon is merely acting as a seller when it sells a physical product to one of its customers.  That's no different from you or I using the eBay app to purchase some old coins from an eBay seller.  Of course Apple isn't going to demand a cut of that transaction.  This is different and you seem not to be able to recognize or acknowledge that.

It's Spotify who is being greedy by demanding of their own customers an additional 30% on top of the usual price of their service because they don't want to incur the costs of marketing, distribution and fulfillment provided by Apple to their most significant sales channel.  

What marketing does Apple do for Spotify?

When asked whether Apple's customary 30 percent take of all App Store purchases is a factor in negotiations, Bezos said that "private business decisions should stay private."