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zimmermann said:

I was shocked to see the new MacBook Pro. It really looks fat. Heavy. 

Coming from a 2015 MacBook Air I was indeed concerned about the size and weight. 

Luckily for me, the utterly gorgeous and humungous screen absolutely outweighs the larger and heavier unit.  I've been primarily using it on my lap for the last three days and it I quickly got used to it and no longer even think about it.  

It's absolutely about trade offs.  If I could have gotten a MacBook Air with 64GB of RAM I would have kept the M1 MBA I had at the first of the year.  In a way I'm glad they didn't offer more RAM - the 16" screen on this MBP is amazing and I love it.  Well worth the extra size and weight - for me anyway.  

I'm sure they will bump the MBA specs with the next round - so for those who really prefer that form factor (and it is a compelling form factor - I've had 2 myself) that would probably be the time to step up. 

M68000 said:

 May be to early to be sure,  but my reaction to looking at it the first time is that it’s an abomination.  Who cares about a tiny bit of extra screen space it gives?

I'm glad for the extra screen space and didn't even notice it the first time I got to see a 14" MBP in a store before my 16" came in.  Played with it for almost an hour and it was only until the sales person brought the notch up that I thought to look for it.  I don't think anything else can explain how much of a non-issue it is, especially if you use dark mode - it's literally not visible. It barely shows in the menu bar and it doesn't show at all when you use full screen video.

If you don't care about the extra screen real estate and it just utterly grinds your gears then good news - just change the scaling options in the display settings to sacrifice the extra screen real estate and force everything below the notch.  Problem solved.  You have less screen, fatter bezels and no notch.  Huzzah!  

Apple has taken nothing away - indeed they have given more choice than we had in the past. 

The notch is an utter non-issue and I can't believe Apple has fumbled the messaging around it so poorly.  It's really a win-win - for those whom it doesn't affect we get more vertical screen real estate.  For those who love to nit pick you can just go back to the old resolution and the notch is no longer an issue - at all.  It's each users choice.  Not sure why that aspect always gets glossed over with the notch.  

Why does everything have to always be framed from a negative perspective?  Backtracking?   How about listening to customers?

I finally got my mitts on my maxed out 16" and I have to agree with Jason Snell's assessment - they did indeed stuff a Mac Pro into a laptop.  It's simply amazing.  The only thing that would make it utterly perfect is if they would have included at least one USB-A port.  Thankfully I picked up a handful of USB-C to USB-A adapters and have just left a couple on the few USB-A things I have that I use frequently - but it's still a pain if you are out and about and someone else hands you a USB-A flash drive. I think sometimes Apple forgets that things like this aren't always 100% under your own control; there is a broader universe out there. 

MplsP said:

saarek said:

I wish they did a 16” MacBook Air.

Yes! I’d be willing to bet there is a large cadre of people who want a larger screen but don’t need the performance of the new MBP (which is a beast, quite frankly.) If Apple put an M1 (or M2) option in a MBA with MagSafe, HDMI and a single TB4 port with a 16” screen I bet they would fly off the shelves.

If I could have gotten 32GB of RAM in the M1 MacBook Air I'd still have it.
Not that I'm complaining about my impending 16" MacBook Pro.  Maxed it out at 64GB of RAM and went up to 2TB of disk.  The more I got to thinking about it in the last few weeks, the more I realized this one machine could replace all my other ones - including my desktop windows gaming machine.  Now that's value and convenience.  

I'll miss the size/weight of the MBA, but the larger screen and performance are excellent trade offs.  I'm sure I'll get used to the 16".  My 2005 MBP was bigger and almost as heavy and i used it for years before getting the 2015 MBA I'm typing on now. 

Beats said:

I thought one of the main draws to M1 was no fans?

Only in the MacBook Air.  All other M1 Mac's have fans - but you would be hard pressed to ever hear them.  They don't have to move that much air to keep the 10 watts of the M1 cool.  The M1 Max can go up to 30 watts - so yeah, some active cooling is very prudent.