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PassionsGate said:

I completely understand Apple's view of this...but let's not loss sight about why the FBI wants access to these phones....the couple in California committed an act of terrorism. Somehow this has become about the right to privacy...these people and therefore anyone who murders innocent people lost their rights.  Now having said this do I believe the FBI should have ability to access information on these phones...YES!  Do I believe Apple should give it to them...yes and no.  They should find a way to help the FBI but no they are not responsible to give the FBI a backdoor, this is the place of the FBI to find a way.  As to all the wing nuts who claim this is gonna give the FBI the power to collect information on anyone and everyone...give it a rest!  Most of you aren't worth the effort to have your paranoid, pathetic lives examined by the FBI, they have bigger fish to fry...and of course had the people who massacred all these people killed one of yours you'd be pissed at the FBI for not getting to the bottom of this matter and pissed at Apple for not doing all it could to help!!

Worst argument ever. First, the privacy argument isn't about the privacy of the individuals. It's about the privacy of all other iPhone owners who become susceptible to the use of a modified version of iOS that bypasses the security mechanisms. Second, you can't have it both ways. Either the FBI has the right to have Apple help the FBI access an iPhone's data (I'll assume you mean that's contingent on a properly executed search warrant) or Apple is not obligated to create the modified iOS version. Those are the only two options here. Third, no policy or law should or is ever based on the government's good will or committee to "using it properly". The government shouldn't get a back door, and whether people have something to hide is besides the point. If you have nothing to hide, then the police still can't just walk into your house.

Finally, many of us would not want civil liberties to be denied in such a situation just because we or our family members were the victims of the crime. In fact, there are some of the San Bernadino family members with exactly that position. Believe it or not, there are those who still believe Constitutional rights supersede. Apple has no obligation to do more than it already has, and it definitely shouldn't be forced to actually write software code to act on the FBI's behalf.

Wake me when they support your own iTunes Library content in Universal Search.

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jax44 said:

Bozo

What a piece of c**p this guy is.

Obama's DOJ said this earlier today, accusing Apple of only caring about profits and their image.

"Apple's current refusal to comply with the court's order, despite the technical feasibility of doing so, instead appears to be based on its concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy," 

Obama is a bozo and a piece of c**p. Trump is not suing Apple and filing motions against them, Obama is filing motions against Apple.

That's a ridiculous comparison. DOJ lawyers in an individual case have no connection to the policies of the administration in office at the same time. Attributing their legal position to a President is not just a stretch, it's false. Then claiming the comparison is equivalent to the direct staments of Trump is silly.

Throwing Obama into the mix is just pure deflection. Ya know, it's perfectly ok to just say Trump is wrong on this specific issue and not wrap your issues with Obama up in that viewpoint.

wonkothesane said:

josu said:

Perfectly explained. 

The fact that Apple is loosing value in Wall Streets point of view in spite of all what they do only means there is at least one of the aspects mentioned they do not do well at all. 
Either it's their current lineup, their strategy for the future, their way of communicating, or a combination of several. As it stands, there is a lack of faith in future growth. 
believe me, even at a few percent of their profits, and this cicnsiste tly, is more, many companies don't even dream about. However, shareholders don't care about the star quo so much, as they care about growth potential. 

Uh, no. The term "Wall Street" seems to be defined as the current group of active buyers and sellers of AAPL stock. To say that this group defines whether Apple is doing something well or not is just ridiculous. Their interests don't have any connection to Apple's medium or long term success at achieving its mission of creating great products. 

If if you think buying shares of Alphabet is a better long term investment than shares of Apple, by all means do it. One of them is a one trick pony that continues to throw crap against the wall hoping something sticks. The other is Apple. While shares of Google or a market cap may exceed Apple in the short term, I'll put my money behind Apple continuing to outperform Google for the next 20 years. 

Impressive. Even I wouldn't have predicted the amount of dumb ass Monday morning quarterbacking in these comments. 

Apple obviously isn't innovating. We know this because they aren't sharing their R&D programs or product development details like they used to do under Steve Jobs. In fact, Apple isn't communicating like they used to do under Steve Jobs.

Tim Cook obviously should be fired and replaced by the totally unnamed person who appears not to exist. His focus on revenue growth, profitability, and continuing the practices of Steve Jobs is unacceptable for a CEO. He still has a chance if he would shift his efforts to cater to the desires of a constantly changing amorphous group of short term AAPL investors.

We all know the problem with Apple's reliance on the iPhone, which provides almost 65% of Apple's revenue and profit. This is not nearly as good as Google reliance on advertising and its 95% contribution.