quadra 610

sog35 said:

NY1822 said:

Let me guess, you're the same guy who when he gets pulled over for speeding says to cop "shouldn't you catching the murderer instead of pulling people over?"

No. I'm the guy that expects a CEO who gets paid $100,000,000 to do his job instead of wasting time at the Superbowl.  The stock is in a state of crisis and instead of going on tv/media to calm the fears.

teamswitcher said:

emig647 said:

Using the point the iMac is faster than the Mac Pro -- It wasn't when the Mac Pro was introduced, nor is the newest iMac always faster than the 4 / 6 core machines all the time. It depends on the application(s). The Mac Pro was mainly built for video studios, rendering studios, sciences / mission critical studios, etc. Apps that use OpenCL, the Mac Pro will mop the floor with the current iMac. In addition, when talking parallel computing, the Mac Pro can still often come out ahead. In addition, comparing apples and oranges here. The Mac Pro can be considered more mission critical with the Xeon CPU and ECC RAM. 

Apple has not abandoned the Pro market. Blanket statements do not help anyone. There are plenty of professionals that use these machines and Apples software to build films, production tv, education / science software, CI servers, and render intense models. Just because Intel has not had a valid CPU update, does not mean Apple has abandoned these machines. These machines do not sell in high numbers, nor are they meant to. They are meant for very specific audiences. When Intel stops playing around with energy efficient CPU architectures and goes back to server CPU updates, we'll get a refresh. 

I will agree that the GPUs have fallen behind from where they should be, but I'm sure Apple will come up with an update this year. Especially now that Thunderbolt 3 is here and a single bus can support a 5K display.

Who are you trying to fool?  Apple's love affair with defective AMD graphics has been plaguing the Mac community for years now.  In our office MacBook Pros and iMacs with AMD graphics are all dying off.  Add to that, the weak storage solutions that Apple has adopted for the Mac Pro and iMac line, and you discover that Apple is ACTIVELY driving away power users to the Windows platform.  You can build an 8 core, 16 thread monster High End Desktop PC for half the price of a comparable Mac Pro.  And if that PC has a video card problem, you can replace or upgrade the devices yourself.  Plus, you can return to the happy days of expanding storage internally - the way God intended.  Apple's Mac Pro is a worthless piece of trash, and the iMac line isn't far behind.  Here's hoping Tim Cook wakes up before the Mac dies...they are already seeing sales drop off.  That will continue if they insist on perusing their current dumb strategy.  Even the MacBooks are starting to look bad now, with Dell shipping quad-core Core i7 (Skylake) laptops (XPS 15) with thunderbolt 3 over USB type-C ports.  Apple just got passed by Dell!  Tim Cook isn't looking so great these days.  He's Apple's version of Steve Balmer.   

spaceage said:

This whole system is so out of touch with any supposed "pro" market that it purports to address.  What is with a "3-5 day" repair period?  If you are a pro, and you've invested $10k or more into a system like this, how happy must you be to have to lose a week of productivity waiting for this?  Apple should literally make this a while you wait repair that you schedule, but I guess the system is so woefully complex to service that you have to wait days to change a video card.  Just another example why having a strange, semi-proprietary hardware design is a terrible idea for pros.  And what's with no CPU updates since intro, max 1tb flash, no retina-level display option from Apple, and probably half a dozen other ridiculous decisions Apple has made with this product.  Who comes up with and approves this stuff?  Obviously execs with more money than brains, detached from reality.

youngliz said:

What's next, an iPhone nano? Apple is 100% dependent upon iPhones and iPads. Without these 2 products, the company would collapse. Eventually this whole house of cards will come tumbling down.