crowley

davidw said:

crowley said:

davidw said:

crowley said:

docbburk said:

If apple puts ads in core is apps, I'm  out.  That cheapens the product and knocks them down closer to the slime that is google. That would take the premium away from the product, so the only way it would be worth getting an iPhone is of they cut the price in half, or gave it away. I value not seeing BS ads and being spammed. 

They already do.  I get bugged about subscribing to Apple Music pretty damn often.

If you are using an Apple device, then technically, that is not an "ad". Apple is not making any money from charging themselves for placing "ads" advertising their own products. That is Apple promoting one of their own product, on their own platform. (Not that it makes it any less bothersome.) But it's something that the EU DMA say that "gatekeepers" can not do because its anti-competitive and that crybaby CEO of Spotify gets all bent out of shape about (when it comes to Apple Music). Not sure if the UK will be enforcing this when the EU DMA goes into affect. But it was also one of the main issue of the US Senate bill (pertaining to promoting ones own product on ones own platform), that hasn't been voted on yet because it doesn't have enough support. 

It's no different than me getting bugged all the time to purchase more iCloud space, whenever it runs low on one of my Apple devices. Or walking into a McDonalds and seeing big posters on their special deal to "super size" your meal. Or while watching a TV show, seeing a 15 seconds blurb during a commercial break, reminding you to  stay tune for a new episode of The Simpsons coming up next.   

Now if you are getting bugged to subscribe to Spotify (or me getting bugged to purchase more One Drive space), while using an Apple app on an Apple device, then that's an "ad". Apple is charging and making money from placing those "ads" in their Apple apps.  When you do a Google search and there are links that has the word "AD" in bold text and in front of it, those are links to "ads", that Google is getting paid for placing in your search results.    

In all meaningful senses it's an ad.  Pointless post.

In all meaningful sense, those are not the "ads" that this article is referring to and I was pointing that out.  This article is about Apple trying to increase its ad revenue (business) by placing more paid "ads" in their apps. There is no way that placing "ads" for Apple Music on their own platform, will increase their ad revenue. But it might serve to increase revenue from getting more Apple Music subscribers.

So that's 2 pointless post by you on this. I'm pretty sure you're going to strike out by making a 3rd.     

davidw said:

crowley said:

docbburk said:

If apple puts ads in core is apps, I'm  out.  That cheapens the product and knocks them down closer to the slime that is google. That would take the premium away from the product, so the only way it would be worth getting an iPhone is of they cut the price in half, or gave it away. I value not seeing BS ads and being spammed. 

They already do.  I get bugged about subscribing to Apple Music pretty damn often.

If you are using an Apple device, then technically, that is not an "ad". Apple is not making any money from charging themselves for placing "ads" advertising their own products. That is Apple promoting one of their own product, on their own platform. (Not that it makes it any less bothersome.) But it's something that the EU DMA say that "gatekeepers" can not do because its anti-competitive and that crybaby CEO of Spotify gets all bent out of shape about (when it comes to Apple Music). Not sure if the UK will be enforcing this when the EU DMA goes into affect. But it was also one of the main issue of the US Senate bill (pertaining to promoting ones own product on ones own platform), that hasn't been voted on yet because it doesn't have enough support. 

It's no different than me getting bugged all the time to purchase more iCloud space, whenever it runs low on one of my Apple devices. Or walking into a McDonalds and seeing big posters on their special deal to "super size" your meal. Or while watching a TV show, seeing a 15 seconds blurb during a commercial break, reminding you to  stay tune for a new episode of The Simpsons coming up next.   

Now if you are getting bugged to subscribe to Spotify (or me getting bugged to purchase more One Drive space), while using an Apple app on an Apple device, then that's an "ad". Apple is charging and making money from placing those "ads" in their Apple apps.  When you do a Google search and there are links that has the word "AD" in bold text and in front of it, those are links to "ads", that Google is getting paid for placing in your search results.    

ronn said:

Apple says it provided clear communications with Telegram throughout the review process, including that it would take longer for reviewing the app. In the case of Telegram's rejection, Apple provided a written notice and a phone call, with the latter checking Telegram knew the reason for the rejection, and how to get back into compliance. 

So a tech CEO apparently lied. Color me shocked!

DAalseth said:

sagan_student said:

DAalseth said:

Let me pick the 2, 3, or 4 services I want and the level of iCloud storage, not just 200GB or 2TB. Then I might be interested.

2 services (family music/Apple news or family music/fitness or Apple news/fitness) plus 2TB storage is a little more than the cost of the most expensive tier. For me it definitely exceeds my needs.

I was initially subscribed to the family plan for Apple Music, apple news (my wife loves it), and 200 GB icloud. The storage became an issue. Once I decided to jump over to the 2 TB, it was cheaper for me to do the bundle. I’m glad I did because I would have not tried fitness otherwise and have been enjoying the workouts and cool downs. Don’t use Apple Arcade though have played a few games. One benefit that I did not think of has been the joy of not having to manage the Apple TV subscription like I do with the other streaming services. Just my 2 cents. Cheers

True, but the extras are things I don’t have any interest in. Apple Music, AppleNews, Fitness+, are not ever anything I am going to use. It doesn’t matter if they are free with the bundle.

Actually let me put it a different way: 2TB plus the cost of the two services I might want is still less than the topmost tier. The bundle isn’t saving me anything.