pmz

battlescarred1 said:

I keep getting in discussions about how Apple has fallen behind Samsung. Samsung has waterproofing, curved displays, NFC that can be used in any store etc., etc. I have only ever used an iPhone, so I don't have the perspective others here may have who currently own a new Galaxy S7. Those I am having these discussions with always end up with, "Well, I think I'm ready to try a new Samsung, they seem to have so much more to offer than Apple. Apple is falling behind, only slight iterations from year to year. Nothing truly new and exciting" I'm not even sure how to respond anymore. Not that Apple needs defending, but can someone tell me their thoughts about how they feel about the Samsung Galaxy as opposed to an iPhone? Not looking for an argument here, just some truly good comparison information from a day to day user, since I don't use a Samsung phone. Thanks.

The answer is iOS.

It is nothing new for people to get distracted by specs and bullet points on paper. Have you ever held an Android device in your hand and used it at all? It is atrocious. No serious person out there chooses Android over iOS. Most people are not very informed, and will make decisions based on trivial, often false, impressions.

Also, the points you make about what "Samsung has" don't really add up in reality.
-The iPhone is exceptionally water resistant. Samsung takes it further, but compromises the design of the product itself in favor of it. Ask me I'll say: How about not dropping your $600 phone in the water.
-Curved display: This is not something to aspire to, its just a gimmick. iPhones now have curved edges, which have an actual practical application married to the software UI controls that involve lots of swiping from the edge of the display.
-NFC at any store. I don't know what this is supposed to mean. You can use Apple Pay just about everywhere you could use Samsung Pay...the real difference is that one is a secure and private payment system and the other is not.

Holy fucking shit. Shut the fuck up about the extruding camera lens. It has not interfered with the use of a single iPhone in 2 years and will not with an iPad either.

roger wade said:

pmz said:

The 8 people who have Bluetooth keyboards in their living room will be happy. 

I have spare bluetooth keyboards all over the place. WTF wouldn't I use it?

The very idea of a lap keyboard on the couch for the TV is a UI failure.

The 8 people who have Bluetooth keyboards in their living room will be happy. Seriously just the image of someone sitting on their couch with a bluetooth keyboard balanced on their lap...I can understand why Apple put it at the very bottom of the priority list for release.

The other improvements in this update are huge. Dictation makes all the difference and really completes the puzzle when it comes to the Siri remote. And the change to the scrubbing behavior with the remote is huge. Not a single user out there that wasn't annoyed by having to delicately pick up the remote to prevent accidental input.

saarek said:

sog35 said:

Apple's sells TENS of MILLIONS of 16GB phones a year.

Its time for you to get out of your own 'world' and realize other people are perfectly fine with 16 GB.

Most people buy the 16gb because it's the cheapest and they don't know any better.

Unless you use very few apps and rarely take photos it is not enough.

I accept that some people are able to get away with just 16gb.

However most phone manufactures, especially the flagship devices moved away from 16gb a long time ago.

16gb back in 2010 made sense, it does not make sense now, especially when you plan to keep the device for 3 or more years.

You're wrong.

1) A tremendous swath of users don't know or care how much storage their device has.
2) Today it is actually more possible to live with a 16 GB device than it ever was before. Not the other way around. Two of the biggest culprits of storage space: iMessages, and Photo library have had recent innovations that prevent them from taking up all of your storage. iMessage can now auto-delete old messages, and iCloud Photo Library + Optimize iPhone Storage allows you to take as much Photo and Video as you like, while constantly reducing the amount of actual local storage.

So, the argument that it "made sense" back in 2010 when none of these features existed is completely wrong.