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tht said:

Does Nike have a watchOS fitness app? I would thing being able to display the Watch heart rate measurements and the PBP2 measurements as an interesting thing to look at. 

I had a PBP1, and yup, the case was too big for your pocket. It’s basically can only be carried in a bag. It’s was too round and big. I got the Beats Fit Pros, and the case was smaller, but pretty flimsy. Fit Pros did not feel premium. 

How pocketable is PBP2 case?

It's 33% smaller than the PBP1 case

MalcolmOwen said:

anonymouse said:

So, am I reading the article correctly, the heart rate data can only be sent to an iOS (or presumably Android) device — i.e., these don't work in tandem with an Apple Watch in cases where you are/do want to use both? That seems like a bit of a miss.

Or did you simply not test that scenario?

While you can connect the Powerbeats Pro 2 to an Apple Watch, there's no option within watchOS to disable the heart rate monitoring on just the Apple Watch while still using the data from the earbuds. 
However, this is relatively academic since it's presumed you'd be primarily using the Apple Watch for your fitness tracking needs. 

Perhaps you guys should test it and do a followup article. I haven't yet used an external HRM connected to Apple Watch, but it seems as though if you do have one connected it should default (or you should be able to switch) the heart rate monitoring to the paired device. Per Apple: "If you’re not able to get a consistent reading because of any of these factors [ https://support.apple.com/en-md/105002 ], you can connect your Apple Watch wirelessly to external heart rate monitors such as Bluetooth chest straps."

Anyway, if this is possible with the Beats Powerbeats Pro 2 it might provide a good alternative to a chest strap monitor to get more consistent and accurate readings.

Edit: After doing a bit of research elsewhere, it seems to be the case that you cannot use the Beats Powerbeats Pro 2 as an external HRM device with Apple Watch (as you can with various chest strap HRMs). I'll reiterate that this is a big miss by Apple/Beats not to have gotten this to work as it should. It's just dumb that a health and fitness device (which is effectively what these are) from Apple (which is essentially who these are from, despite the Beats branding) isn't fully integrated with Apple Watch. Apple, count me as one (potential for this product) customer who is not delighted.

So, am I reading the article correctly, the heart rate data can only be sent to an iOS (or presumably Android) device — i.e., these don't work in tandem with an Apple Watch in cases where you are/do want to use both? That seems like a bit of a miss.

Or did you simply not test that scenario?

phillyfanatic09 said:

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CheeseFreeze said:

beowulfschmidt said:

Apple could also just pull out of the UK entirely, fire all their UK employees, and stop buying UK goods and services.  I know they won't, but feck all fascist governments.

By that logic, they need to pull out of the USA immediately. 

Because Apple is in the US that means they should prop up fascism and a police state?

Not directed at you personally, but people need to learn what fascism is. Fascism is a type of authoritarianism but not authoritarianism is fascism. 

Fascism is a far-right system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

The U.K. is capitalist, and we can certainly argue that this would be a stringent movement control the rest of the definition doesn't fit at all. There U.K. isn't governed by the far-right, it isn't a dictatorship, there isn't violent suppression of opposition and the list goes on. So, yeah, not fascism at all 

“Agreed, the UK isn’t there. The US however…”

While what Trump is doing is disturbing, illegal and authoritarian, he is not a fascist. 

Experts on fascism — i.e., people who have studied fascism extensively and know exactly what it is and isn't — disagree with you. Here's one who changed his mind on the issue to declare that Trump is a fascist.

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-paxton-trump-fascist-1560652

This is a direct assault on Democracy, Freedom and Individual Privacy. In essence, it's a direct assault on the values that they claim to be protecting. George Orwell must be turning in his grave.