anonymouse

9secondkox2 said:

Can you imagine pouring your heart, soul, and finances into developing a great resource, then fighting tooth and nail to get discovered by the masses, only to have the most popular company in the world copy you and obscure your effort,… that’s rough. 

Apple is supposed to be the ethical one of the much. At least buy them out. Sheesh. If you can spend 3.5 billion on a headphone company, you can buy out a little third party developer to enhance your wares. 

So Apple is never supposed to do anything that someone else has done before? Does that only apply to software, or hardware as well? Are the Mac, iPhone, Apple Watch unethical because there were other players in the market when they were released? Is it "unethical" that Apple released Safari, or Pages, Numbers, Keynote because someone was already doing that, or is that ok because of the size of the competition? If it's ok, exactly where is the line about when it's ok and when it isn't? What exactly are the criteria for when Apple is allowed to release a new HW product or app?

Is it unfortunate for the developer? Sure. but it's no different than any other business where some other company may "Sherlock" you. Being first (or third or fourth or ...) to market doesn't give you some sort of moral monopoly for that product.

nubus said:

anonymouse said:

Yes, it's so great that the EU is solidly behind the exploitation and objectivization of women.

The freedom of not being able to install the apps you want? Like when Trump was removed from all platforms, used the Parler app, and Apple banned it. Is that what you want? And now the freedom of not being able to install what you want on the phone you own.

What is next? The freedom of having a car that won't let you drive to certain shops? A fridge that won't allow beer?
My appliance = my choice.

You should avoid analogies, you don't understand how to make them work.

mrstep said:

anonymouse said:

avon b7 said:

ihatescreennames said:

AppleInsider said:

Apple draws a clear line in the sand that it would never allow such an app on the App Store. While it is true you'll never find an app for PornHub in the App Store, there are plenty of popular apps filled with explicit, pornographic, or otherwise adult material all over the App Store.

The statement is even more bewildering given that Safari enables easy access to porn from the jump unless specific steps are taken to block the content. If the device is owned by a minor, certain filters are automatically in place, but even those aren't enough.

Serious question: what apps can I download from the App Store that are “filled with” pornographic material?

Also, it isn’t bewildering at all that Apple doesn’t want to carry porn apps in the store that carries Apple’s name and is associated with Apple. I seem to recall some Apple executive even making a comment about how things are accessible in Safari that aren’t in the App Store because Safari allows full access to the internet. Maybe I’m conflating things but that’s what I recall. 

That's fair comment but I suppose there are plenty of apps that allow users to see and share porn. Especially in the IM group of apps. 

Tumblr? 

It's actually fine for Apple to not want to offer this or that. The reasoning behind the decision isn't even necessary. In that sense the 'it's their store...' line is OK. 

The root problem for me is that no mention of App Store limitations is made prior to purchase (or of any of the other limitations for that matter) and that Apple doesn't allow other stores to even exist.

That has changed now at least in the EU. 

Yes, it's so great that the EU is solidly behind the exploitation and objectivization of women.

You mean empowerment! (This is a schizophrenic issue for society in general.)

The porn industry doesn't "empower" anyone but the exploiters, so, sure, the EU has empowered them.

avon b7 said:

ihatescreennames said:

AppleInsider said:

Apple draws a clear line in the sand that it would never allow such an app on the App Store. While it is true you'll never find an app for PornHub in the App Store, there are plenty of popular apps filled with explicit, pornographic, or otherwise adult material all over the App Store.

The statement is even more bewildering given that Safari enables easy access to porn from the jump unless specific steps are taken to block the content. If the device is owned by a minor, certain filters are automatically in place, but even those aren't enough.

Serious question: what apps can I download from the App Store that are “filled with” pornographic material?

Also, it isn’t bewildering at all that Apple doesn’t want to carry porn apps in the store that carries Apple’s name and is associated with Apple. I seem to recall some Apple executive even making a comment about how things are accessible in Safari that aren’t in the App Store because Safari allows full access to the internet. Maybe I’m conflating things but that’s what I recall. 

That's fair comment but I suppose there are plenty of apps that allow users to see and share porn. Especially in the IM group of apps. 

Tumblr? 

It's actually fine for Apple to not want to offer this or that. The reasoning behind the decision isn't even necessary. In that sense the 'it's their store...' line is OK. 

The root problem for me is that no mention of App Store limitations is made prior to purchase (or of any of the other limitations for that matter) and that Apple doesn't allow other stores to even exist.

That has changed now at least in the EU. 

Yes, it's so great that the EU is solidly behind the exploitation and objectivization of women.

AppleInsider said:

... It was said to communicate with an iOS 18 daemon known as GroupKit. ...

GroupKit seems like an unlikely name for a daemon, more like an API. An associated daemon would more likely be named something like GroupKitService or GroupKitServer.