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apple4thewin said:

anonymouse said:

apple4thewin said:

Anyways it is quite interesting how Grok will improve especially since Musk keeps purchasing the best top of the line servers from Nvidia.

Oh, well, it's good to know AI is so simple, just buy the best servers and you are good to go. I guess it basically creates itself.

Well it it’s not the car it’s the driver and if you give a good driver a better car then you will get a better improvement 

You're presuming that Musk is somehow a better driver when in fact he's just a wealthy nut job/sociopath.

Alex_V said:

avon b7 said:

It isn't so much what AI is or isn't. It's more about what can be done with it and we have already seen that a lot can be done for far less effort than was previously possible. 
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These kinds of models are everywhere and of course include image/language processing/generation. 

I know little about computer programming and even less about generative AI. Yet, the hype about AI poses it as a form of intelligence. It is not. Instead, it appears to be a copying machine specifically designed to circumvent authorship. The second part is not accidental, it is the whole point. With AI, these companies can respond to user queries by locating the answers in works produced by humans and then paraphrasing them, to avoid giving credit or paying royalties to the actual authors. Until recently, all of human culture — that is, all images, all music, all of the built environment, all technology, and all written text — was produced by individuals or teams of people. Now, we will be, ever more, confronted by culture that is produced by sophisticated plagiarising machines. 

Well, isn't that what teams and individuals have been doing for millennia, learning something from somewhere and then "paraphrasing" it (sometimes referred to as "making it your own") without giving credit or paying royalties? (Other than academic articles, how many things does one read, or look at or watch or listen to, with citations?) Is this argument any different than how humans have tried to distance themselves from other animals by claiming unique abilities that set them apart — humans are the only animal with emotions, the only tool using animal, the only reasoning animal, ... — abilities that we continue to discover are not so unique after all, that the difference is more a matter of degree, if any at all?

I don't think we can really answer the question of whether AI generally, or some particular AI specifically, is really intelligence or not since we don't even really understand, and can't really exactly define, what intelligence is in humans and other animals. How would we even know if it were intelligence or not if we don't really know exactly what "intelligence" is? See also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds

apple4thewin said:

Anyways it is quite interesting how Grok will improve especially since Musk keeps purchasing the best top of the line servers from Nvidia.

Oh, well, it's good to know AI is so simple, just buy the best servers and you are good to go. I guess it basically creates itself.

avon b7 said:

commentzilla said:

sirdir said:

Apple always has to be dragged kicking and screaming to get them to do the decent thing 

There is pretty of competition, it's called Android and Windows. Don't bring that sewer into  my Walled Garden..

In reality the walled garden is, to a large extent, the problem itself.

Apple abuses its 'gatekeeper' status and developers and consumer rights and competition bodies complain.

Often the conclusions are that Apple is in effect harming consumers and stifling rival innovation. 

We have now seen numerous investigations on varying fronts and from varying jurisdictions reaching the same conclusions. 

The great news for you is that you never lose the option of ignoring alternatives. That doesn't mean others shouldn't have the options they would like. 

Please, these kangaroo investigations in the EU, and now the UK, which seems to be determined to stay in lockstep with the EU despite leaving it, start with a conclusion and then attempt to work their way back to a justification. This is no different than the Indonesian shakedown in substance.

lowededwookie said:

So Apple can't just walk in and disrupt an industry? I mean I can't think of any industry where Apple has done that other than desktop computers, laptops, cellphones, tablets, smart watches. Other than that what industry has Apple just marched into and disrupted? (queue obligatory Monty Python references)

Or, as (former Palm CEO) Ed Colligan said, "PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in."