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Apple loses antitrust appeal in Germany, now subject to steep fines and regulations
🤣avon b7 said:
The numbers that determine gatekeepers are not subjective.anonymouse said:
EU Law is a joke. EU law is so entirely vague and open to subjective interpretation that anyone perceived to have deep pockets can quite easily be deemed to be in violation of it. The way it's written, all they have to do is fabricate a plausible rationale and set, or move, the goal posts to wherever they need them to be, and jackpot!avon b7 said:
https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-markets-act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_enlongpath said:This ruling is akin to Lamborghini being declared anticompetitive for not allowing 3rd party (including parts made by Ford & Chrysler) dealer installed accessories in the Temorino.
Apple is a minority manufacturer of phones, tablets, and personal computers. As such, they do not now, nor have they ever had anything vaguely resembling sufficient market control for any other their actions to be meaningfully anticompetitive. This ruling reflects a warped grasp of Apple's actual market share.
By Apple's own numbers it qualifies as a Gatekeeper for phones under EU law.
Car anologies don't work well here due the digital CPS nature of the issue.
Also, many jurisdictions around the world are coming to similar conclusions about Apple's anti competitive practices. The US might end up being one of them.
EU law makes a mockery of law.
You may argue about how those numbers were set but not that Apple falls into the group of gatekeepers.
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Apple loses antitrust appeal in Germany, now subject to steep fines and regulations
EU Law is a joke. EU law is so entirely vague and open to subjective interpretation that anyone perceived to have deep pockets can quite easily be deemed to be in violation of it. The way it's written, all they have to do is fabricate a plausible rationale and set, or move, the goal posts to wherever they need them to be, and jackpot!avon b7 said:
https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-markets-act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_enlongpath said:This ruling is akin to Lamborghini being declared anticompetitive for not allowing 3rd party (including parts made by Ford & Chrysler) dealer installed accessories in the Temorino.
Apple is a minority manufacturer of phones, tablets, and personal computers. As such, they do not now, nor have they ever had anything vaguely resembling sufficient market control for any other their actions to be meaningfully anticompetitive. This ruling reflects a warped grasp of Apple's actual market share.
By Apple's own numbers it qualifies as a Gatekeeper for phones under EU law.
Car anologies don't work well here due the digital CPS nature of the issue.
Also, many jurisdictions around the world are coming to similar conclusions about Apple's anti competitive practices. The US might end up being one of them.
EU law makes a mockery of law.
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Apple loses antitrust appeal in Germany, now subject to steep fines and regulations
I'm about as far from a MAGA or trillion-dollar-company-simp as one can get, but it's been pretty obvious for quite a while what Europe's game is in regard to American tech companies. And, none of this is even remotely about what's best for the customer, it's about what's best for European governments, European companies, European advertisers and European spy agencies.sirdir said:Wow, I wasn’t aware the comment section here is full of MAGA and trillion-dollar-company-simps.
If Apple can’t follow the law, they will be fined and that’s the way it should be.
Maybe they’ll even have to do what’s best for the customer instead what’s best for them, imagine. The horrors!
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Apple loses antitrust appeal in Germany, now subject to steep fines and regulations
Money grab, shakedown, pick your favorite term because that's exactly what it is and this is how a corrupt Europe operates now.avon b7 said:
Apple has been ruled non-compliant on competition grounds.rob53 said:Anti-competition... The iPhone market is still less than the android market. Does Germany even try and make and sell mobile devices? I believe they do but the market simply doesn't want them in any quantity. Germany suing Apple doesn't help Germany make their own devices, it simply makes them money off the back of other companies. The EU cartel is the same thing. If you can't make something people want you sue the company that people like. This isn't an antitrust lawsuit, it's simply a money grab because Germany no longer makes products people want to buy and use. --Look at what's happening with its automobile market, it's tanking. Will Germany sue other car companies because they no longer can keep up with technology and the desires of consumers?
It isn't a 'money grab' nor does it have anything to do with the Android market or anything else you bring up.
The Germans aren't making the laws up as they go. There was an investigation and a ruling. Apple presented its case. That is how it works.
Maybe Apple can appeal. I don't know.
And, of course, the bitter irony in many of these cases is that these "Western Democracies", supposed bastions of freedom, are going after Apple for protecting freedom and privacy.
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House Judiciary Committee subpoenas Apple over AI censorship
Get used to much much more of this political theater nonsense over the next 4 years as they try to distract from what they are up to by rewriting the narrative of what the previous administration was up to.
