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MacPro said:

Can the PC version stream to Apple devices?  That would be nice as everything worth having on Steam is PC only.  My hope is one day 4K streaming from PC host to any Apple device including Macs on the same LAN.

cloudguy said:

"with the launch thought to introduce lower-priced options that could eventually be used with the Mac Pro or eGPU solutions."

Wait what? The Apple switch from Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs to their own integrated CPUs and GPUs lasts two years. It started in November 2020. Meaning that there is only 18 months left. While Apple is rumoured to have one final run of Intel-based Mac Pro and iMac Pro workstations on the way while they work out the bugs with the M2 and M2X CPUs that are capable of replacing the Intel Core i9 and Xeon CPUs that currently inhabit them, you would be absolutely nuts to actually go out and spend all that cash on one. Case in point: the resale value of Intel-based Macs is already plummeting! https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-mac-price-crash-of-2021/ 
So even the idea of buying an Intel Mac now, using it for a couple of years and then flipping it while in still "like new" status and using the cash for an Apple Silicon Mac Pro in early 2023 makes no sense, and getting the AMD eGPU with it even less so. 

Apple has finite resources and organizational focus. Realize Macs have been playing second fiddle to iPhones and iPads for awhile now because those units bring in far more money. Indeed, these days Macs probably come in fourth behind services (which also generate far more revenue than Macs) and wearables (where the Apple Watch and the AirPod give Cupertino rare market place dominance). So you would be absolutely nuts to spend $6000 or more on a device running an outdated software platform. Proof: because you won't do it. No, you want everyone else to do it so Apple's market share doesn't take a nosedive. You want them to be the ones to "trust Apple" when they spend 10 seconds reading boilerplate teleprompter-speech on how they will continue to offer world class support to their Intel-based Mac customers ... before they pivot to talking about how the future is ARM and everyone on x86 is going to be left behind. (And given that Apple is the only company with viable ARM PC and workstation products and will be for the next 3-5 years ...)

Yeah, no. Only buy Apple's last batch of Intel-based machines if you are 100% comfortable replacing macOS with Windows 10 Workstation Pro or Ubuntu on them 3 years down the line. The former isn't that much of a problem - bootcamp will still be supported for awhile - but drivers and such will continue to be a big deal for the latter. Otherwise your platform is going to be an afterthought for a company that has the vast majority of is consumers and market share elsewhere (mobile, services, wearables) and regards your obsolete hardware platform a burden and a chore to develop for. 

cpsro said:

UPDATE: the PCWorld comparison used the new (beta) emulator.😳

chadbag said:

We’re the Mac benchmark tests running under Rosetta 2 ?   If you run the Windows on Arm under x86 emulation you should at least compare oranges to oranges and run x86 Mac versions under Rosetta 

civa said:

viclauyyc said:

Just the wait time of approval from various government will likely kill the deal. 

We can only hope. 

As I said before, this is not only a mistake, putting control of the ARM architecture directly in the hands of China (NVIDIA is Intel, and Intel is pretty much China), but it's going in the exact direction I expected it to go. 

I called this when it was first reported, and everyone said I was being Chicken Little. 

What now, brown cow?