cali said:

nhughes said:

foregoneconclusion said:

Adding the thumbstick click capability to the MFi spec in the future (and the physical support for that in 3rd party MFi controllers) seems like a good idea.

It's a strange omission, for sure, considering all modern game consoles have clickable thumbsticks. But then again it's not very surprising, considering Apple's ongoing ambivalence toward gaming.

Such a shame, too. The A10X is a very powerful chip capable of running quality games if they were made available. Imagine if Apple threw a relatively small amount of money around to have a high-profile developer/publisher port a AAA franchise to tvOS/iOS. The A10X is more powerful than a Nintendo Switch, a system that will soon run Skyrim. Why can't we have Skyrim on our iPhones and Apple TVs?

The thumb click is annoying and very impractical. I believe this is why Apple omits it. Apple isn’t about nerdy over complicated hardware. 

Is there any comparison videos or anything directly comparing Apple TV 4k to Switch or other consoles? I can’t find anything. 

The raw horsepower of the A10X is well beyond the Nvidia chip in the Switch, that has been established with benchmarks. Unfortunately the game selection on tvOS is so poor that it's not really worth comparing.

A game like Breath of the Wild on Switch has an art style specifically designed to play to the strengths and downplay the weaknesses of the Switch hardware, and the result is gorgeous. It also probably cost Nintendo a boatload of money to make and they sell it at $60 a pop. If a developer were to put that kind of time and resources into a tvOS game, and they were somehow able to sell it on the App Store for $60, you could get some impressive results. But the market just isn't there at the moment.

It will be interesting to see how thatgamecompany's tvOS title does, and how much they charge for it.

tundraboy said:

nhughes said:

deepinsider said:

When you fold something over and over, it weakens along the fold line and eventually breaks. I’ll stick with unfoldable screens, thanks. Phones are too expensive to be made so easily broken.

You could make this same argument about a number of different technologies over the years.

- Batteries that are charged nightly die too quickly from the constant cycle. I wouldn't want my computer to depend on a battery.
- Flat panel displays are prone to ghosting and permanent burn-in. I'll stick to a CRT monitor.
- Mobile data is too expensive and slow, and the reception is spotty. I'll stick to Wi-Fi.
- Disc drives are too essential for daily computing, I can't get a computer without one.

I could go on and on and on.

Discovering or developing a material that you can tightly fold and unfold about a thousand times a year for at least four years and it doesn't form a visible crease or break.  I say that's a taller older than any of the examples you gave.

A revolutionary computing device in your pocket was once a tall order, too.

To be clear, I'm not saying that a folding iPhone is an inevitability, or even likely. But Apple would be stupid to not at least explore it. I'm sure they are.

deepinsider said:

When you fold something over and over, it weakens along the fold line and eventually breaks. I’ll stick with unfoldable screens, thanks. Phones are too expensive to be made so easily broken.

You could make this same argument about a number of different technologies over the years.

- Batteries that are charged nightly die too quickly from the constant cycle. I wouldn't want my computer to depend on a battery.
- Flat panel displays are prone to ghosting and permanent burn-in. I'll stick to a CRT monitor.
- Mobile data is too expensive and slow, and the reception is spotty. I'll stick to Wi-Fi.
- Disc drives are too essential for daily computing, I can't get a computer without one.

I could go on and on and on.

Metriacanthosaurus said:

It don’t see any potential for this. 

Having a large phone than can be folded doesn’t help anyone. The size is not nearly as much of a problem when in your pocket as it is when using it. 

I disagree. I've heard countless complaints (and I agree) that Apple should stop making phones thinner, that the thickness doesn't matter. But what if this is the payoff? Fold it and double the thickness but halve the size in your pocket. Nobody cares about the thickness in their pocket, but the size does matter.

As for your concerns about using a large display, what if the phone doesn't fold inward, like a book, but instead outward? What if you could use it in folded mode and just use half of the display in a one-handed mode? Without a physical home button, you could use your device in any orientation or physical state. That's when things start to get really interesting.

SpamSandwich said:

Is this thread not significantly similar to this thread?: 

Rumor: Apple working with LG on foldable OLED iPhone in 2020, leaving rival Samsung...

How about a single thread for all of this? In other words, FOLD the threads together.

They're two different news stories. You're not new here, you should...

Ohhhhh. Nevermind.