johnfrombeyond

crofford said:

No wonder I got confused. I thought that logo on my phone was for a clothing store. I tried to buy a shirt and all I could find was fart apps. 

I bought a hat and thought I was getting a phone. A head phone, you know. Up until now I just thought nobody was calling me.

pentae said:

What amuses me most about this is as an app store developer I have had to deal with crazy bullshit like this for years from Apple, but as soon as you bring it up in here you get told "Well don't like it? Go make your own app store then!" by so many Zealots. And yet here we are. The irony is this is exactly why we need to be able to easily jailbreak apple devices for a free and open system. In fact governments should mandate that if a user is crazy enough to do so and given sufficient warning from the OS he should be able to download any app he wants without the app store. Gambling apps, sex apps, freedom of information apps, it's my phone, i should be able to do what I want with it. Even download a virus if i'm not careful. I'm an adult, let me do what I want with my device i've paid $1k for.

You are using "government should mandate" and "freedom" in the same paragraph. It sounds like you think users should be free to do whatever they want, the government should guarantee that freedom with laws and regulations, but Apple should not have the freedom to do what they want with their intellectual property. That doesn't sound fair.

Really with the government staying out of it, users and producers already have freedom of choice. If you don't like the Apple ecosystem with Apple's rules, there is the Google/Android ecosystem with those rules and different set of problems. If you want to try to jailbreak an iPhone, you are welcome to try, while Apple is free to make it difficult. If you want to download anything you want, get an android phone and go crazy with it.

Rayz2016 said:

gatorguy said:

Rayz2016 said:

johnfrombeyond said:

To be clear, I don’t think Apple is trying to control our editorial content. I think that an over-eager App Store reviewer (or maybe an automated process?) followed the letter of the law, rather than the spirit of it. But it isn’t the first time our app has been rejected for unexpected and confusing reasons. This latest example is just especially bizarre. 

Like you, I expect it will be resolved soon. But considering the fake “Cuphead” release on Monday, it’s obvious that Apple still has some improvements to the process that they need to make. 

I'm guessing you are right about this being an automated process that flagged the app based on a keyword. Could even be a non-English speaking reviewer who didn't take the time to understand the article. I've had similar things happen as well. They all worked out, but it costs time and money to do so. On the other hand, I still remember when routine simple app reviews could take 1-2 WEEKS to get your first feedback. Now it's only taking like 24-48 hours to get through the review process, at least for updates.

But what is an automated process/reviewer doing checking OUTSIDE the app?

An automated machine scan of apps is what Google's Play Store gets dinged for by some here. Yet is Apple is doing much the same? Seems they may be, at least initially. Dunno. 

I have no problem with an automatic app scan. But what the article writer is saying here is that the app was rejected because of something that was written on a rumour site, and not something intrinsic to the app. 

First they scan the app to look for undocumented API's and things embedded in the code, then they need to run the app to make sure it doesn't crash on startup. After that they usually hit your main screens and look for crashes and "red flags" which make them want to dig deeper. If there is a login screen, you are supposed to provide them with a valid login for testing. So you see, they have to run the app and it was just dumb luck that the day they ran it, there was an article about jailbreaking. It was a MISTAKE and it will be corrected. Keep in mind they are probably reviewing thousands and thousand of apps every day, tens of thousands every day during peak time periods like right before the Christmas shutdown and right after. Some things like this fall through the cracks, all in the name of speedy reviews. It sucks, I've been affected by it before, but life goes on. An app review delay should be part of the planning process in any iOS development schedule.

I'm in favor of asking for details about the rejection from Apple, as long as it is done respectfully. I personally trust AppleInsider if it is a first-hand account, but not so much what other people may state, which I would consider rumors until proven. There are plenty of cases of developers whining about their unfair rejections, and when you dig a little, you realize they are in the wrong and there are two sides to every story. Definitely NOT the case here, but in this age of fake news and partisan exaggerations in everything you read, it's a good thing to ask questions and do some research. Nowadays I find that anything even remotely political that is published by the major national news sources is usually riddled with factual errors and opinions stated as facts. So, ask questions, but be kind : ) Good luck AI, this article was written in a way that should not overly offend Apple and I hope they take care of it today.

Apple asked all the dentists in the area if there were any patients with metal wires in their teeth, or unusual wear on the enamel. It was just a matter of time.