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  • What to expect from Apple's October 30 iPad Pro, Pencil and Mac event

    eightzero said:
    nht said:
    wizard69 said:

    While i I know this puts me in the minority I’m really hoping that Apple has ARM based Mac Books and Minis in the wings.   The Mini because I will never buy the current iMacs and the Mac Prois stupidly expensive for my needs.  
    Apple has 90% of a ARM based Mac Mini built...it's called the Apple TV.

    So far we have seen no indication that they want to let us use either the aTV or iPad as a full laptop replacement or home server.

    That doesn't mean they never will but makes it real real unlikely in 2018.
    Hum. Are you suggesting the aTV might run some version of macOS, and add a few USB ports for a mouse and keyboard? Intriguing. 

    I've often found myself wishing for a very basic version of macOS. While the current version has lots of features I'm sure appeal to many, I long ago decided there were many things it could do that I didn't ever need or want. Somewhere in the systems prefs, a pane that has a list of features with a toggle: on/off. 
    It is near certainty they have a version of MacOS that runs on ARM.

    aTV 4K has an A10X which is speedy enough to run the MacOS.  You can already attach a USB keyboard to it so adding a mouse is pretty trivial.  It already can support 4K.

    Add a 2TB Fusion Drive to that package and it'd be nice little Home Server capable of local storage of media, backups, etc.

    Put an A12 in there and it should be able to run the iPad version of Photoshop, iMovie, LumaFusion etc to edit photos, movies, and so forth. 

    There's a bunch of reasons ($$$) why they wouldn't want to go this route but very few technical ones.
    GeorgeBMacmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Apple to reportedly unveil iPad Pro, MacBook Air replacement, Mac mini at Oct. 30 event

    I'm very sensitive to Apple messing with the MacBook Air model as it seems to be the last remnant of practical computing.

    Is USB-C for power better? It's really not, it's consuming a valuable port and MagSafe could be argued was an excellent design. USB-C for power feels like a step backward in that regard.

    I was at an Apple event recently and watching the presenter carry his new MacBook Pro around with various dongles hanging off to be able to connect devices was quietly ridiculous.
    "Various dongles" = a single HDMI to USB-C adapter. GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

    USB-C for power means you can just plug into your dock, monitor, whatever and get power as well. You can use portable power bricks from any vendor. It's the future. Magsafe means you need your proprietary Apple charger. 
    Since when does such abusive potty mouth incite represent the spirit of non-troll posting or constructive contribution ?

    Personally I really dislike having a bag full of costly, messy dongles that seem outdated every few years, and one can of course arrive at a meeting and be surprised by a need for something one does not have... Also one snagged USB-C cord and a $4k macbook pro flying off a desk is not something I would look forward to or consider a design 'upgrade'...

    Opinions and needs differ.  Was someone having a bad day?  Live and let live...?
    Seriously get over it. That ship has long sailed.

    if folks would quit harping over dumb stuff that isn’t going to change maybe some folks wouldn’t get so frustrated and use adult language.

    oh and the “bag of dongles” comment is pure trolling. 
    chiawilliamlondonfastasleep
  • What to expect from Apple's October 30 iPad Pro, Pencil and Mac event

    nht said:
    In a recent article, AI discussed:

    Massive iPad deployment at OSU paying long-term dividends in higher education

    Following the rollout to over 11,000 iPads to the 2018 freshman class, Ohio State University has started to see the benefits of their ambitious program including improvements in grades, higher campus engagement, and the eventual savings of millions of dollars for students.

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    "This unique program will give students access to the incredible learning tools on iPad, as well as Apple's new coding curriculum that teaches critical skills for jobs in some of the country's fastest-growing sectors," Apple CEO Tim Cook said at the time." I'm thrilled the broader central Ohio community will also have access to coding opportunities through Ohio State's new iOS Design Lab."

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/25/massive-ipad-deployment-at-osu-paying-long-term-dividends-in-higher-education


    One of the things OSU students use the iPad Pros for is coding...

    While Apple's Swift Playgrounds App for the iPad is good for teaching concepts and incidental coding, IMO it is not very good for actual code development...

    IMO, the iPad Pro would be great for [heavy-lifting] code development if it could run Xcode with an external keyboard/trackpad case.

    How to accomplish that brings up an interesting dichotomy:

    1. Should Xcode be ported to the iPod Pro (if it isn't already running there)?
    2. Should macOS be ported to the iPod Pro (if it isn't already running there)?

    ...typin' this on my iMac 5K, while listening' to David Bromberg singing "I like to sleep late in the morning" in stereo on paired HomePods... Nice!
    I think it's not long until developers are able to take advantage of the massive processing power of the iPad and do real Xcode coding and app development all on the iPad.
    Not without a mouse or trackpad...if the iPad could dock and let me have a physical keyboard, mouse and use all of a 4K display I would be golden for Xcode.

    Right now many apps are pillarboxed on a 16:9 display and using the iPad as the trackpad leaves much to be desired.  Especially when trying to select text.
    If USB on the new iPads is a fact, compatibility with keyboard and mouse (or trackpad) could be in the cards.
    We could have had that anytime.  We always had keyboards as an option.
    GeorgeBMacSpamSandwichStrangeDays
  • What to expect from Apple's October 30 iPad Pro, Pencil and Mac event

    wizard69 said:

    While i I know this puts me in the minority I’m really hoping that Apple has ARM based Mac Books and Minis in the wings.   The Mini because I will never buy the current iMacs and the Mac Prois stupidly expensive for my needs.  
    Apple has 90% of a ARM based Mac Mini built...it's called the Apple TV.

    So far we have seen no indication that they want to let us use either the aTV or iPad as a full laptop replacement or home server.

    That doesn't mean they never will but makes it real real unlikely in 2018.
    GeorgeBMacchia
  • What to expect from Apple's October 30 iPad Pro, Pencil and Mac event

    In a recent article, AI discussed:

    Massive iPad deployment at OSU paying long-term dividends in higher education

    Following the rollout to over 11,000 iPads to the 2018 freshman class, Ohio State University has started to see the benefits of their ambitious program including improvements in grades, higher campus engagement, and the eventual savings of millions of dollars for students.

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    "This unique program will give students access to the incredible learning tools on iPad, as well as Apple's new coding curriculum that teaches critical skills for jobs in some of the country's fastest-growing sectors," Apple CEO Tim Cook said at the time." I'm thrilled the broader central Ohio community will also have access to coding opportunities through Ohio State's new iOS Design Lab."

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/25/massive-ipad-deployment-at-osu-paying-long-term-dividends-in-higher-education


    One of the things OSU students use the iPad Pros for is coding...

    While Apple's Swift Playgrounds App for the iPad is good for teaching concepts and incidental coding, IMO it is not very good for actual code development...

    IMO, the iPad Pro would be great for [heavy-lifting] code development if it could run Xcode with an external keyboard/trackpad case.

    How to accomplish that brings up an interesting dichotomy:

    1. Should Xcode be ported to the iPod Pro (if it isn't already running there)?
    2. Should macOS be ported to the iPod Pro (if it isn't already running there)?

    ...typin' this on my iMac 5K, while listening' to David Bromberg singing "I like to sleep late in the morning" in stereo on paired HomePods... Nice!
    I think it's not long until developers are able to take advantage of the massive processing power of the iPad and do real Xcode coding and app development all on the iPad.
    Not without a mouse or trackpad...if the iPad could dock and let me have a physical keyboard, mouse and use all of a 4K display I would be golden for Xcode.

    Right now many apps are pillarboxed on a 16:9 display and using the iPad as the trackpad leaves much to be desired.  Especially when trying to select text.
    GeorgeBMac