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davgreg said:

The problem with Apple's marketing strategy is that many of us want a great smartphone but do not care about Face ID, Augmented Reality, Fake Bokeh Cameras or the price premium of OLED. We are consigned to older HW with less capable CPU/GPUs and such.

Part of what makes them great smartphones is the stuff you don't want.  I dunno what a spec bump really buys you in terms of real world performance in most apps.  Which apps do you regularly use that wouldn't benefit from a nicer screen but would from a faster GPU?  The cost of a better camera is pretty nominal...the primary cost for augmented reality is the better CPU/GPU.

muthuk_vanalingam said:

avon b7 said:

StrangeDays said:

Apple's pulling down the majority of the premium profits? Again?

"Paging knockoff-defenders... Paging all knockoff-defenders...You are need in the forums."

1. This is the lowest Q2 profit share that Apple has had over the last three years. Way lower than some people here will even accept. Next week, this news will have been erased from their memories and they will insist again that Apple has all the profits. 

2. The article points out that Samsung is down but skips the point that Apple is also down.

Avon - One correction. The points 1 & 2 by you are misleading a bit. This is where the statement - "There are lies, damn lies and then statistics" comes into picture. Apple having JUST 62% of profit share compared to 90% 2 years ago DOES NOT reflect negatively on Apple. The right metric in this case is - what is the actual profit in $ and what is the trend? On both counts, Apple has done exceptionally well. This statistic "Profit share percentage" just shows the Android OEMs (particularly Chinese) in positive light, without degrading/demeaning the achievement of Apple.

The key takeaways from the numbers in this article are

i) Apple continues to do exceptionally well as they have always done

ii) Top 4 Android OEMs have "learnt" to make a profit, making it a sustainable business for them.

iii) Overall financial health of smartphone companies is going in a positive trend.

Avon loves to cherry pick quarters and then calls foul when Q4 rolls around.  The truth of the matter is that folks say Apple has all the profit share because over the entire year Apple had 62% in 2013, 77% in 2014, 90% in 2015, 83% in 2016 and 79% in 2017.  So anywhere in that 75%-85% range is about par based on the last 5 years.

"Samsung has consistently held the number two profit position. Its share peaked at 43% in 2013 and ranged between 16% and 18% during 2015 to 2017. Huawei’s profit share has only increased to a high of 6% in 2017 after running breakeven during 2013 to 2015. Every other smartphone company has been losing money to operating at a breakeven level."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/03/02/apple-continues-to-dominate-the-smartphone-profit-pool/#4e03628161bb

Will Apple profit margins drop someday?  Sure, nothing lasts forever.  2018 isn't likely to be they year it craters as Avon hopes and Huawei suddenly jumps to 20%+.

Avon also loves to ignore that flat is good when you average 77% of the profit share in a market...and that his predictions that the iPhone X wouldn't sell was totally wrong.

He'll then caterwaul about how profit share doesn't help consumers...ignoring that consumers disagree by buying iPhones.

But the most funny thing when he prattles on about the superiority of Android phones from China is the fact that Apple captured 22% of the $400-$600 market with 2 year old phone (iPhone SE and 6s sporting the A9 processor) and 1 year old phone (iPhone 7, A10) tech vs the latest Android tech (Snapdragon 845s in the OnePlus 6)...

Apple doesn't need new phones to compete in the $400-$600 market.  The iPhone 7 now occupies the $450 segment and the iPhone 8 the $600 segment.  I'd rather get the iPhone than the Moto Z3 Play in the same price segment.

wizard69 said:

Metriacanthosaurus said:

seltzdesign said:

I think an iPad with no bezzel like the iPhone X would enable it to be truely used in any orientation and therefore could feasably have a lightning port on one side an a USB C on the other. That way you can still use all current accessories and use any new stuff just as well, plus you could use both at the same time, greatly increasing its capabilities and making it a proper Pro tablet.

There is no way it has both. It would confuse the shit out of users. They are way too similar.

I won't rule out the possibility of iPad Pro dropping Lightning for USB-C if Apple has a good reason to...but it is very unlikely. No good reason has ever been demonstrated. Even this article, despite its attempts to, does not mention a single thing that can't be done so long as Lightning is the connector.

Producers of low volume hardware simply will not build hardware to plug into Lightning.   By low volume I mean stuff that might sell in the thousands a year sometimes hundreds of thousands.   Things like Signal analyzers, Oscilloscope modules, Engine analyzers, development systems, PLC interfaces, CNC interfaces, Many types of automation products and sensors.   The fact is iPad misses out on a lot of really interesting uses, uses where it would be ideal, simply because it has a port small companies can't support rationally.

Not really.  If a company wanted to make their devices compatible with the iPad you can do Lightning to USB.


https://www.cultofmac.com/498542/how-to-use-usb-hub-multiple-devices-ipad/

svanstrom said:

cgWerks said:

svanstrom said:

cgWerks said:

We old Apple fans keep thinking about what the old Apple would do.

On behalf of the rest of us "old Apple fans" I'd just like to apologise, and categorically deny that this person has been elected to represent all of us. 

Enjoy the memojis I guess. Not all the old Apple people necessarily got it. Some bought for fashion and status, I suppose.

Yes, as a tech-specialist that's been using Apple computers for more than 25 years I must definitely only be in it for the "fashion and status"; and you are the only one that gets it, because you're so so special, right?

Do you get a kick out of being this much of a self-centered *sshole, or you do genuinely believe what you're saying? You're acting like an autistic kid that can't handle any change at all.

He’s right, he hasn’t changed.  He’s been a Debbie Downer the last decade or so.  

Why do folks feed our resident trolls that claim to be longtime Apple fans with a posting history of dumping on Apple products ever since they joined years ago?

What kind of attention seeking moron needs to whine about a company for years before moving on?  Avon, cgWerks, etc.

At least Gatorguy is drawing 6 figures ($.000005 per post) from Google for haunting us...what are these guys getting?

Soli said:

claire1 said:

lkrupp said:

"I've fallen and I can't get up. Oh wait, my Apple Watch just called 911. Never mind."

The baby boomers (me) are going to devour this device. It will quickly become the "must have" wearable for our generation. You'll know that's true when the socialists start demanding that every person over 65 is entitled to one which the government should provide free of charge. 

Funny you mentioned this. A few weeks ago, a hardcore iHater said the Apple Watch was useless because you can just buy a Life Alert instead....

I wonder where the goalposts moves next?

How much is Life Alert?

$50-$100 a month...