nht

suddenly newton said:

appex said:

Proprietary backup? No, thank you. Not even for free!

What about it makes you call it proprietary?

"BeyondRAID technology, built into every Drobo, delivers all of the benefits of traditional RAID, but leaves the limitations and complexity behind combining enhanced protection, reliability, expandability, and ease-of-use. "

BeyondRAID is proprietary and Drobo isn't a normal RAID box.  That may not matter to some folks but the Drobo Death Spiral is a thing you can google and decide for yourself. 

On the other hand it's not like you can pop drives from an array from one brand and expect it to work in another brand's enclosure so there's a bit of lock in regardless.  

Given how much the software has gotten better from most folks like Synology setting up a RAID isn't as obscure as when Drobo first came out so IMHO there's no reason to go Drobo vs traditional RAID. YMMV.

APFS may not work out of the box...for example ext4 is/was in that maybe it works limbo but it ain't supported category.

Personally, I'd never buy one. Too many stories on the photography forums of bad customer service and dead Drobos.

foggyhill said:

nht said:

foggyhill said:

nht said:

clemynx said:

ike17055 said:

The European elites continue to demonstrate that they have no real understanding of free markets and competition. 

Nonsense. This decision is precisely defending European consumers. Nothing elite about it. Quit defending megacorporations instead of actual consumers. 

And the US should defend US companies from unfair EU fines.  We need to curbstomp the EU and maybe they will stop targeting US companies with these excessive fines.  It's a blatant money grab.

Brussels wants us to not protect our steel industry from Chinese dumping because it might hurt them (this after imposing their own 73% tariffs on Chinese steel) and threatens us with "retaliation" if we do but hits US companies with huge fines based on worldwide earnings at the same time.  Fuck them.  Hit Europe as hard as possible with steel tariffs but let UK steel in.  Frankly if the EU want to sell us anything they can go through the UK.  That'll make them understand not to be total douches during Brexit.

Let them try their "nuclear option".

Right... Unfair, you do know they fine their own company just as much hey bud.

Stating some baseless claims doesn't make it true.

No, they don't "fine their own company just as much" which is why they call it a "record-breaking fine" as opposed to "the usual wrist-slap fine".

"Apple ordered to pay a record-breaking €13bn".
"Google hit with a record €2.4 billion fine".
"EU issues a record $1.45B fine to Intel".

So yes, stating some baseless claim doesn't make it true.  The EU hits US companies with huge record breaking fines that aren't levied on EU companies. 

One is a god damn tax thing, it's as much a snub on Ireland as apple and apple will likely never pay, so get  a clue and stop lying. The fine is proportional to the size of the company, if the company is a smaller company with a non monopolistic position, they get hit less. How the hell is that hard to understand.

It's not hard to understand when you take it in the proper context:

""We don't want to become a digital colony of global internet giants," Montebourg said in May. "What's at stake is our sovereignty itself.""

Döpfner warned: "Voluntary self-subjugation cannot be the last word from the Old World. On the contrary, the desire of the European digital economy to succeed could finally become something for European policy, which the EU has so sorely missed in the past few decades: an emotional narrative."

The EU (via Juncker, Vestager and Oettinger) has declared war on US tech companies because EU tech companies are uncompetitive without an uneven playing field.  That hurts German and French sensibilities.

foggyhill said:

nht said:

clemynx said:

ike17055 said:

The European elites continue to demonstrate that they have no real understanding of free markets and competition. 

Nonsense. This decision is precisely defending European consumers. Nothing elite about it. Quit defending megacorporations instead of actual consumers. 

And the US should defend US companies from unfair EU fines.  We need to curbstomp the EU and maybe they will stop targeting US companies with these excessive fines.  It's a blatant money grab.

Brussels wants us to not protect our steel industry from Chinese dumping because it might hurt them (this after imposing their own 73% tariffs on Chinese steel) and threatens us with "retaliation" if we do but hits US companies with huge fines based on worldwide earnings at the same time.  Fuck them.  Hit Europe as hard as possible with steel tariffs but let UK steel in.  Frankly if the EU want to sell us anything they can go through the UK.  That'll make them understand not to be total douches during Brexit.

Let them try their "nuclear option".

Right... Unfair, you do know they fine their own company just as much hey bud.

Stating some baseless claims doesn't make it true.

No, they don't "fine their own company just as much" which is why they call it a "record-breaking fine" as opposed to "the usual wrist-slap fine".

"Apple ordered to pay a record-breaking €13bn".
"Google hit with a record €2.4 billion fine".
"EU issues a record $1.45B fine to Intel".

So yes, stating some baseless claim doesn't make it true.  The EU hits US companies with huge record breaking fines that aren't levied on EU companies. 

avon b7 said: 

We have now had two earnings calls post MBP re-design, and very little reference to sales. Schiller came out beating his chest in the first week of release. Then he went silent. Cook described sales as simply 'strong' and now we have one of the fastest refreshes in living memory. 

You are lying because this has been pointed out to you in the past:

"Next I'd like to talk about the Mac. Revenue was up 14% year over and set a new March quarter record. We sold 4.2 million Macs, up 4% over last year, compared to zero growth in the PC market, according to IDC's latest forecast. Demand for MacBook Pro was very strong, helping to drive overall portables growth of 10 %, twice the growth of the portables market. We ended the quarter at the low end of our four to five week target range for Mac channel inventory."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4068153-apple-aapl-q2-2017-results-earnings-call-transcript

wizard69 said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

welshdog said:

Your focus was on using the box with a laptop, but won't many/most of the users be connecting to desktops? They won't care about clamshell mode, charging etc.  

I'm not sure why anyone would want to connect a box like this to any sort of peripheral or breakaway box. You plug this directly into a Thunderbolt port on your computer - connecting any other way is just silly and asking for problems.  I understand testing it with these devices, but in reality direct connection is the only sensible way to use it.

I don't think so. Given the iMac footprint, and the need for an external display, I think the MBP is an obvious prime-mover for it. That, and the 5K GPUs are good, and don't really need an expansion. We'll see, though.

I agree with the direct connection point.

I don't buy this at all.  Why would anyone hook a high performance video card to a low performance CPU?    That is exactly what a laptop is.     For many use cases you need a high performance desktop CPU system to effectively drive the GPU.   Honestly hooking something like this up to a laptop is throwing good money after bad.   

The Core i7 MacBookPros seems more than speedy enough.  I want an eGPU for my MBP for when I'm editing FCPX.  I don't need it for coding.  

When we get a quiet enclosure with a drive bay, ethernet, extra USB ports and a GPU slot + power is when I'll buy.  

Right now we're real close.