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dpkroh said:Everyone here claiming Apple is right, boo hoo for the others, does not understand the differences between capitalism, competition, and free markets. They are aso poor students of 20th century American history and the incomparable prosperity of the mid 20th century, that is no more. That prosperity only happened once the government started breaking up large companies and monopolies. Apple, Google, FaceBook, and the like are the "Robber Barrons" of the 21st century. Real prosperity can only return when the government does what it did post WWII. Take down and break up the robber barons to restore free markets and completion, and restore equitable (not equal but equitable) wealth distribution.
Capitalism and competition are NOT the same same. The goal of capitalism is profit maximization. That goal is ultimately incompatible with competition. Profit maximization, unbridled, has the ultimate goal of destroying all current and future competition, to forever protect its monopoly at all costs.
Equal access competition a.k.a. truly free markets are the true drivers of innovation and prosperity. Capitalism is simultaneously the best tool to maximize productivity, and simultaneously the greatest threat to the same, when left unmanaged.
Free markets and competition are good for everyone, except for greed maxing capitalists. Any capitalist that has amassed enough power or wealth to bully competition, no longer sees competition and free markets as beneficial. They see competition and free markets as a threat to their dominance.The greatest expansion of wealth in American history, occurred just after WWII, when the government went after big corporations and broke them up. Everyone won. Wealth was spread far more evenly and equitable and more wealth was generated than when a few big corporations controlled all.
Now we are back to a few big corporations controlling almost everything, especially in technology. I'm always amazed at how easy it is to train the vast majority of people to act against their own self interest. That's the most effective and insidious form of power there is. That is the sort of control that the system has against everyone here cheering on Apple, Google, and the like, while denigrating the others. it's just like the first line of the chorus of the song "Banditos" by "The Refreshments". Everybody knows the world is full of "them".
gatorguy said:rob53 said:Mike Wuerthele said:ITGUYINSD said:Good ol' Bill Barr. Can't wait until JAN 2021. Buh-bye!
It never ceases to amaze me that an administration that is so worried about creating encumbrances on our right to bear arms would openly support encumbering our right to privacy and our right to safeguard our electronic communications.
bulk001 said:I think she is right. Apple needs to allow 3rd parties to install apps without having to use the AppStore or pay Apple the tax. They could do it like they do with the Mac - install at your own risk from outside sources and call Warren if you get compromised for support.
jblank said:Screw her, AOC, who thinks the country is barely above garbage, and the rest of these collectivist leftists that want to destroy our economic system and many great companies, Apple included.The Democrat Party has turned into a race towards Communism. They are radical and have the gas pedal planted to the firewall to see who can go furthest left. I'm surprised they haven't called for gulags and re-education camps for white males yet, I guess that's coming soon though.
The real problem is populism. Left-wing or right-wing, populism has unintended consequences. People like Warren are the result.
Does anyone remember what Trump said in the wake of this affair? In a telephone conversation, he said that if he were POTUS, he would have come down so hard on Tim Cook his head would be spinning all the way back to Silicon Valley. I tried as hard as I could to think of what Trump could have possibly meant by that statement but I couldn't think of anything. The only explanation for that statement was that in typical Trump fashion, he was making a strongman statement in order to play to his base. In a television appearance, he called for a boycott of Apple products until Apple until Apple unlocked the phone, although he used some really weird wording.
It was evident to me back then that Trump had no legal basis to "come down on Tim Cook" because Apple wasn't doing anything illegal in appealing court order. Whatever he was going to do to Apple would have amounted to nothing more than harassment. This is the kind of person we have in the White House-a man who is willing to use the power of the American federal government just to look good to this base.