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foregoneconclusion said:

Japhey said: I completely agree, and said almost the same thing on here yesterday. Garbage pop and corporate rap. It’s never ending. AM’s predictive algorithms either completely ignore me, or are completely inaccurate. I find the whole experience frustrating. 

In order to get better recommendations from Apple Music, you need to:

A. Use AM to listen to music regularly
B. Select the 'Love' or  'Suggest Less Like This' actions for songs/albums regularly

Also, not everything you see in AM is based on an algorithm. There are standard promotions for new releases as well, and those are more likely to be centered around artists that have higher profiles in the industry. 

tylersdad said:

JBSlough said:

tylersdad said:

killroy said:

tylersdad said:

killroy said:

tylersdad said:

rob53 said:

22july2013 said:

Exciting times. I've been arguing for this for years and that's why so many people hate me on this forum.

So you believe a developer has every right in the world to post their apps for free on the Apple App Store? Give me one legitimate reason why Apple should be required to host these apps for free. Apple doesn't charge for free apps but could start doing that if they wanted to. Apple could also start charging developers to even put their apps on the Apple App Store and if these stupid laws pass, I'm all for Apple doing that. There's no way anyone could force Apple to host things on their servers for free. It would be like me hosting your email server on my hardware, which I maintain, for free. Get a grip, I'd never do that and I doubt any company would do that. This shows how stupid these laws are.

Of course, if you want to have your own payment system, then be prepared for Apple to start charging you a hosting fee for every download and install of that app. That's only fair isn't it?

No. As a developer, I feel I should not be limited to Apple's way of distributing apps to my users. 

It's as simple as that. I won't use their infrastructure and they won't get any money from me (other than my developers subscription). 

You well pay for use of their server. And you well be kicked off if your app has malware.

Why would I use their server? My customers are able to download apps from my website and install them. 

We are talking about iOS app store. Not the Mac app store.

What difference does that make? An app is an app. An iPhone or an iPad is just another type of computer. 

The difference is the Mac isn’t locked down. You can download anything you want (provided you turn off Gatekeeper.) iOS has been locked down from day one. 

Correct. iOS has been locked down since the beginning. There is no technical reason for it to be locked down. As I've stated in other posts, iPhones and iPads are just computers. Why should I have to get Apple's permission to install an app on the phone that I paid for? 

darkvader said:

So, this is a mistake.  Not because it's not a good idea, but because it doesn't solve the actual problem:  It's MY iPhone, not Apple's iPhone.  I should be able to install apps from any source of MY choosing.

Sure, Apple forcing payments to only go through them and taking a cut is illegal tying and should never have been allowed in the first place, but so is preventing me from going to the developer's website, downloading an app, and installing it, with no interaction with Apple whatsoever.  Apple shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, video game consoles shouldn't be able to get away with it, any manufacturer selling hardware with a lock-in for future purchases should be stopped and in Apple's case the fines for illegal tying should be in the billions.

crowley said:

radarthekat said:

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mubaili said:

Apple needs to get money for it's efforts for the iOS development and all kinds of SDKs etc one way or the other.

Apple are a vertically integrated company; it's often cited as one of their strengths and why their products are so great.  And as such, they don't need to consider every part of their business as a cost centre, or an avenue for sales.  Apple make more than enough money from selling iPhones to justify all iOS development, all SDK tool development, hell potentially even all App Store running costs.  They don't "need" to get money for their efforts in these areas at all, they're making bank, and making it big time, from iPhone sales, which in turn are driven by the sophistication and reliability of iOS and the breadth and quality of the apps that are available on the store, written using the SDK.  It is an integrated product, and Apple are making lots of money out of it already.  

Costco has its Kirkland Brand, which it makes money from.  So it doesn’t need to make money from membership fees, from selling other brands of products, from shelving fees, from selling gasoline, from the automotive centers that sell brand name tires, etc.  You see how ridiculous this sounds?  That government should arbitrarily dictate which lines of business a company can make profits from?   

I'm not saying anything about government or CostCo, just that the "Apple needs to make money from the App Store" argument is lacking in potency when the App Store is vertically integrated with one of the most successful and profitable consumer products ever sold.