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Tim Cook: Facebook's Cambridge Analytica consumer data debacle forces tech industry beyond...
The amount of human beings that dont care about their personal data, privacy and security is pretty crazy. Why do we value this info so little?
Not happening but we should be able to charge Google or Amazon etc. for the use of our personal data. Want my phone number? $5000, please. Want everything forever? How does $100,000 sound? -
Initial pre-orders for Samsung Galaxy S9 reportedly down compared to Galaxy S8 sales
foggyhill said:clarker99 said:The problem is Android.
Analysts call Samsung and Apple main competitors but this just isnt true. Samsung’s main competetion is every other Android vendor. Google, Xiomi, Essential, LG, Motorola, etc etc are more likely to take away a Samsung sale than Apple, IMO.
Also, what annoys me is that people are comparing the S9/S9+ to the iPhone X when in reality it is priced to compete with the iPh 8/8+. Samsung hacked together an animoji copy and people think this is a X competitor? C’mon.
If/when there is an ‘iPhone killer’ product, I am doubting it will be discounted on day 1. -
Initial pre-orders for Samsung Galaxy S9 reportedly down compared to Galaxy S8 sales
The problem is Android.
Analysts call Samsung and Apple main competitors but this just isnt true. Samsung’s main competetion is every other Android vendor. Google, Xiomi, Essential, LG, Motorola, etc etc are more likely to take away a Samsung sale than Apple, IMO.
Also, what annoys me is that people are comparing the S9/S9+ to the iPhone X when in reality it is priced to compete with the iPh 8/8+. Samsung hacked together an animoji copy and people think this is a X competitor? C’mon. -
The Smartphone Endgame: Who wins once shipment volumes peak?
Apple survived peak PC growth... Apple survived peak mp3 player growth... peak tablet growth... peak smartphone growth? Yeah not concerned. Apple’s ‘Other’ and ‘Services’ are growing like crazy. Homekit is in its infancy. Health research.... etc etc. Glasses are coming. AR... All this and the iPhone is heartbeat of the ecosystem. Peak smartphone doesnt mean doom and gloom. It means offering a watch or Apple Music or Airpods to supplement.
Siri will only be a problem until it isnt. Siri will eventually be a true platform and when it is Apple will have more active users than Amazon or Google. Siri is everywhere. Hand, wrist, car, home... it is everywhere you are. And they will do it with security/privacy that no one else will offer (or even try to).
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The Smartphone Endgame: Who wins once shipment volumes peak?
saltyzip said:Lets get to the point, Apple can't keep making this ludicrous profit on its iPhones for ever, so what is the trigger point to the start of the inevitable decline?
This article knocks android smartphone manufacturers for making just a couple of billion in profit. That is still bloody good business compared to my annual salary, if you compare it to Apples obscene profit it looks minute, but they aren't the ones being greedy and making stupid profit margins.
Apple is trying desperately to keep punters upgrading their phones each year or two, ensuring newer models are more expensive, plus expanding the ecosystem for lock in. They are introducing finance deals soon so I hear to encourage more people to part with more of their hard earned cash over a an easy payment period. Morally this isn't great but will help keep those premium sales and therefore easy money coming in.
The problem for apple is the best of android and the best of apple are virtually on par with each other.
The core functions of a smartphone which most people use are already nailed. People won't keep paying thousands of dollars for a phone, it's chucking money down the drain.
The same thing happened to PCs, people didn't need more and more power, they were happy with what they had.
I think if you gave the best budget android phone to apple users they'd be surprised how good they actually are, with exception of the camera and iMessage withdrawals.
Yes you can buy expensive cars and expensive house phones, but most people buy what is best bang for buck and that's why android rules on the numbers. Android is in your TVs, it will be in your fridges, in your cars, your scooters, your washing machines, house alarms etc and this is where apple won't be able to compete, due to its closed nature, it relies on others to support its products with a cost to certify them. This is where the number of devices count in the long term, not how much apple stores in its money vault each quarter now, it's how windows became the OS of choice and the PC became the hardware of choice to run it. It's a marathon not a sprint and I think that's where Apples business model which is just really the iphone will come unstuck.
Apples good times will not last, they can't stop the inevitability that the iPhone will cease to be a cash cow for them in the not too distant future.
Way to narrow ir down to the not to distant future... is that 1yr? 2yr? 10yr? 50yr? 🙄
Apple has already addressed the longer upgrade cycle by increasing prices while focusing on the ‘Other’ and ‘Services’ aspect of the business.
Apple customers are loyal, happy and continue to invest in their uber sticky ecosystem.
Android manufacturers pretend they are competing with Apple when they are competing with each other first. Like HP, compaq etc while the Mac just chugged along and grew.