I just want to make sure because I am getting conflicting reports. This 3.0 is designed to work on my Iphone 3G, and not just a future IPhone? Correct?
That was my over-reactive point to Solipsism. My coffee has worn off now.
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I just get frustrated when the whole emphasis is on style over content.
I know what you mean but when it comes to presentations, style is part of the content. Or rather - style can kill the content. In this case you could argue that J&J sacrificed content over style. If they don't give a shit how their product is presented they probably don't care much about the product, either. If you love your product - show it! Diabetes is a boring subject. But so are a great many things. Contextualized it may take n meaning and importance. Contextualized in terms of medicine, technology and the massive financial cost (to society), and personal pain to millions,diabetes in not at all boring. Bring the iPhone into the picture and this could have been a great presentation.
Here it measures frequency respons by Fast Fourier Transformation. FFT was pioneered by KEF in the 1970s then it costed millions of pounds in equipement.
This is just the reverse of what your iPod is doing all the time... Converting a FFT to audio (aka playing an mp3/aac/etc)...
I'm done with AppleInsider. Is there some other website that provides timely rumors and updates about the Apple scene without the peddling to Apple stockholders, propaganda and BS journalism?
I mean seriously, the person asked for a redesigned, stylish blood glucose monitor, and somehow since the iPhone 3.0 SDK allows connecting an ugly external device with a bulky cable it's the "second coming"?!? And then there are the morons on this site who think that this is Apple innovating, because they're apparently too dense to realize people have been interfacing external devices/sensors to mobile computers (including the Newton) for over a decade (including for medical applications)? Something that a proper journalist would've researched and acknowledged?
A few of the articles on here the past week or so have been bottom of the barrel. Are there new writers, do the owners of AppleInsider have too much invested in Apple stock, or what's changed?
Good riddance.
If you had taken the time to read through the thread, you would know that you comment on the external device has already been commented on. By someone more intelligent than yourself.
Is it really necessary to use Christian language and imagery like this in a story on a new iPhone feature?
Absolutely.
2009 is the bicentenary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. Religion should be kept on a very tight leash.
I encourage all enlightened people, i.e., atheists, to take a step forward.
Wasn't one of the barriers to a Tablet Mac something to do with reliability for medicine and hospital related use which was seen as one of the main markets for such a Mac?
If iPod Touches will now be used for medical monitoring and other functions wouldn't a larger TabletPod also find a place in that market now too?
actually you don't really need a tablet mac. the ipod touch and specialized software is all you need. that and a good wifi network in a hospital.
earlier this week my local Apple store ditched the back of the room check in computer for the bar and training appointments and now those orange shirts have an ipod touch on the belt. I walked in for my appointment and was greeted practically at the door and as the two of us walked to the bar, the guy whipped out his touched, logged in and marked me as having arrived for my appointment.
if that can be done, someone can come up with a group of specialized linked apps that could access medical history in a database, log in drug and treatment orders (including perhaps an app that checks existing meds and calculates drug doses so you lessen overdosing or conflict reactions), etc. all off a Touch.
when I was at that appointment in the store I overhead two sales people pondering when they would get their sales system on a touch with an attached credit card scanner so they could ditch the slow and nasty looking things they have now (which apparently run off some cobbled version of windows 3.1)
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Surely J&J didn't slap that app together in two weeks though, right (as the intro suggested: "a couple weeks ago we asked some companies to see what they could do with the new SDK")?
actually they might have. but now they have 3-4 months before 3.0 comes out to give the program working.
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Why on earth was she even there if she was so nervous? Not that I don't feel for her but in terms of marketing there is nothing worse than a lame presentation
cut the woman some slack. she went up there to present something that wasn't all cool and slick and even with tons of practice, anyone can freeze when they go into the room and see dozens of faces staring back.
"The pundits who mocked the device as the "Jesus Phone" are now experiencing its second coming."
Nice touch! Great analysis. The hardware interfacing will blow people away. I'd like to see a camera control App where I hook the iPhone to my camera, and I can control the camera just as I can now with my laptop.
2009 is the bicentenary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. Religion should be kept on a very tight leash.
I encourage all enlightened people, i.e., atheists, to take a step forward.
Best,
Daniel
Thank God* you enlightened people are here to save us all from ourselves. Why, now that we're all enlightened we can make the world a better place. No one has ever thought these things before. Indeed, we can now be so tolerant of people in ways that ignorant religious folk never were - well, except for religious folk of course. No tolerating their beliefs, since we're so obviously right about everything.
What, you mean we're not the first generation to think we had it all figured out? You mean people have been claiming for thousands of years that they were right and everyone else was wrong?
Seriously, religious bigotry is annoying and wrong - on BOTH sides. Thanks for not helping the conversation, Daniel.
Don't worry, Apple will mess this up by changing the connector on the next version of the iPhone. How many dock connectors have they had on the iPods?
- Jasen.
There's been one iPod Dock connector. Prior to that, it used a Firewire port to sync and charge.
The Dock Connector is just a 30 pin repackaging of Firewire, USB, stereo audio in and out, composite and component video, and some control pins. That makes it trivial to plug a USB device into it, as you just sort out the four wires. There are also some blank placeholders that can be used to accommodate future devices, such as support for USB 3.0. At some point, the wires used by FW can be repurposed for other things too, meaning that there's no reason to replace the standard Dock Connector any time soon.
Apple has already made some changes to the pin assignments, shifting from S-Video and composite to composite and component (with some wire sharing going on) to allow for HD video output.
Future devices could also reuse wires as needed, to say, put signals on one set of wires, then reconfigure to support a different signal on the same wires. There might be a point where some features of old Docks stop working (as the video changes caused), but the Dock Connector itself isn't needing to change.
In contrast, every hardware maker puts random stuff on various models. Microsoft invented its own connector for Zune, but it didn't share any similarity with any of the PFS devices.
2009 is the bicentenary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. Religion should be kept on a very tight leash.
I encourage all enlightened people, i.e., atheists, to take a step forward.
Best,
Daniel
I step forward
I look forward to the day a non-believer can actually run for any office in the USA and admit it. At least science is allowed again here after 8 years.
if that can be done, someone can come up with a group of specialized linked apps that could access medical history in a database, log in drug and treatment orders (including perhaps an app that checks existing meds and calculates drug doses so you lessen overdosing or conflict reactions), etc. all off a Touch.
The new US administration has a stated objective of reducing healthcare costs through
automation of medical records. Apple appears to be well positioned to profit from this
with the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I wonder if they have any board members who could lobby for them
The new US administration has a stated objective of reducing healthcare costs through
automation of medical records. Apple appears to be well positioned to profit from this
with the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I wonder if they have any board members who could lobby for them
I hope they don't need lobbyists, common sense may be back in vogue It would me an incredible move forward. Hopefully they can overcome the gun toting', bible quoting red necks who will be screaming invasion of privacy.
Not, actually. If my kid had diabetes I would have listened with great interest, then groaned at the crappy presentation.
Na! You'd have been on the iPhone to tell your family as soon as it was over and never even noticed the style of the delivery. Come on, if the judge just told you the verdict was 'not guilty' would you want to debate his delivery?
I didn't read it that way at all. I read it as the' Jesus' thing was said by others mocking folks like me who loved the iPhone from the start and this was debunking that and the use of the 'second coming' was rubbing that in a mildly sarcastic way now it is a proven success. As to having concerns about AAPL, I for one share those and it is totally necessary to have a relevance to that in some AI article. Sorry you don't agree and feel in necessary to leave such an excellent resource to us Mac users.
I agree. I think its a shame when people make a perfectly valid comparison that is so out of context as to lose meaning. It's like saying the Wright Brother's didn't do anything special, because people had been creating flying devices for centuries before they came along. We'll have to wait and see how successful this is, but when I told my nephew how this could revolutionize universal remotes, his eyes got really wide, and I could tell he "got it". Its all about deployment, progressive updates, a uniform platform, and a growing user base. If someone had a device that did all of this, but had been around for 4 years without getting a critical mass of customers... it would be less than useless. This on the other hand, is a success story by objective measurements, not subjective hype. Look at adoption figures of Facebook compared to MySpace. Then compare the purchase rate of iPhones to any other smart phone on the market. It's that momentum that gives this story significance and the platform serious legs.
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- Jasen.
That was my over-reactive point to Solipsism. My coffee has worn off now.
I just get frustrated when the whole emphasis is on style over content.
I know what you mean but when it comes to presentations, style is part of the content. Or rather - style can kill the content. In this case you could argue that J&J sacrificed content over style. If they don't give a shit how their product is presented they probably don't care much about the product, either. If you love your product - show it! Diabetes is a boring subject. But so are a great many things. Contextualized it may take n meaning and importance. Contextualized in terms of medicine, technology and the massive financial cost (to society), and personal pain to millions,diabetes in not at all boring. Bring the iPhone into the picture and this could have been a great presentation.
it seems that the imagination is the only limit to the iPhone
http://www.faktiskt.se/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=29105
Here it measures frequency respons by Fast Fourier Transformation. FFT was pioneered by KEF in the 1970s then it costed millions of pounds in equipement.
This is just the reverse of what your iPod is doing all the time... Converting a FFT to audio (aka playing an mp3/aac/etc)...
I'm done with AppleInsider. Is there some other website that provides timely rumors and updates about the Apple scene without the peddling to Apple stockholders, propaganda and BS journalism?
I mean seriously, the person asked for a redesigned, stylish blood glucose monitor, and somehow since the iPhone 3.0 SDK allows connecting an ugly external device with a bulky cable it's the "second coming"?!? And then there are the morons on this site who think that this is Apple innovating, because they're apparently too dense to realize people have been interfacing external devices/sensors to mobile computers (including the Newton) for over a decade (including for medical applications)? Something that a proper journalist would've researched and acknowledged?
A few of the articles on here the past week or so have been bottom of the barrel. Are there new writers, do the owners of AppleInsider have too much invested in Apple stock, or what's changed?
Good riddance.
If you had taken the time to read through the thread, you would know that you comment on the external device has already been commented on. By someone more intelligent than yourself.
Is it really necessary to use Christian language and imagery like this in a story on a new iPhone feature?
Absolutely.
2009 is the bicentenary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. Religion should be kept on a very tight leash.
I encourage all enlightened people, i.e., atheists, to take a step forward.
Best,
Daniel
Wasn't one of the barriers to a Tablet Mac something to do with reliability for medicine and hospital related use which was seen as one of the main markets for such a Mac?
If iPod Touches will now be used for medical monitoring and other functions wouldn't a larger TabletPod also find a place in that market now too?
actually you don't really need a tablet mac. the ipod touch and specialized software is all you need. that and a good wifi network in a hospital.
earlier this week my local Apple store ditched the back of the room check in computer for the bar and training appointments and now those orange shirts have an ipod touch on the belt. I walked in for my appointment and was greeted practically at the door and as the two of us walked to the bar, the guy whipped out his touched, logged in and marked me as having arrived for my appointment.
if that can be done, someone can come up with a group of specialized linked apps that could access medical history in a database, log in drug and treatment orders (including perhaps an app that checks existing meds and calculates drug doses so you lessen overdosing or conflict reactions), etc. all off a Touch.
when I was at that appointment in the store I overhead two sales people pondering when they would get their sales system on a touch with an attached credit card scanner so they could ditch the slow and nasty looking things they have now (which apparently run off some cobbled version of windows 3.1)
Surely J&J didn't slap that app together in two weeks though, right (as the intro suggested: "a couple weeks ago we asked some companies to see what they could do with the new SDK")?
actually they might have. but now they have 3-4 months before 3.0 comes out to give the program working.
Why on earth was she even there if she was so nervous? Not that I don't feel for her but in terms of marketing there is nothing worse than a lame presentation
cut the woman some slack. she went up there to present something that wasn't all cool and slick and even with tons of practice, anyone can freeze when they go into the room and see dozens of faces staring back.
Nice touch! Great analysis. The hardware interfacing will blow people away. I'd like to see a camera control App where I hook the iPhone to my camera, and I can control the camera just as I can now with my laptop.
Absolutely.
2009 is the bicentenary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. Religion should be kept on a very tight leash.
I encourage all enlightened people, i.e., atheists, to take a step forward.
Best,
Daniel
Thank God* you enlightened people are here to save us all from ourselves. Why, now that we're all enlightened we can make the world a better place. No one has ever thought these things before. Indeed, we can now be so tolerant of people in ways that ignorant religious folk never were - well, except for religious folk of course. No tolerating their beliefs, since we're so obviously right about everything.
What, you mean we're not the first generation to think we had it all figured out? You mean people have been claiming for thousands of years that they were right and everyone else was wrong?
Seriously, religious bigotry is annoying and wrong - on BOTH sides. Thanks for not helping the conversation, Daniel.
*pun intended
Explain to me why I can't comment on a poorly prepared and presented demonstration simply because the product is good and ignoble.
Fair point but learn what "ignoble" means - the opposite of what you think.
There - just thought I'd save this thread some time.
Back on topic...
Second coming, indeed.
I'm not even betting on the first coming, let alone the second.
Don't worry, Apple will mess this up by changing the connector on the next version of the iPhone. How many dock connectors have they had on the iPods?
- Jasen.
There's been one iPod Dock connector. Prior to that, it used a Firewire port to sync and charge.
The Dock Connector is just a 30 pin repackaging of Firewire, USB, stereo audio in and out, composite and component video, and some control pins. That makes it trivial to plug a USB device into it, as you just sort out the four wires. There are also some blank placeholders that can be used to accommodate future devices, such as support for USB 3.0. At some point, the wires used by FW can be repurposed for other things too, meaning that there's no reason to replace the standard Dock Connector any time soon.
Apple has already made some changes to the pin assignments, shifting from S-Video and composite to composite and component (with some wire sharing going on) to allow for HD video output.
Future devices could also reuse wires as needed, to say, put signals on one set of wires, then reconfigure to support a different signal on the same wires. There might be a point where some features of old Docks stop working (as the video changes caused), but the Dock Connector itself isn't needing to change.
In contrast, every hardware maker puts random stuff on various models. Microsoft invented its own connector for Zune, but it didn't share any similarity with any of the PFS devices.
The sad fact is if any one of them had a kid with diabetes they would have seen it in a totally different light.
Yup..hit the nail on the head there!
Yup..hit the nail on the head there!
Not, actually. If my kid had diabetes I would have listened with great interest, then groaned at the crappy presentation.
Absolutely.
2009 is the bicentenary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. Religion should be kept on a very tight leash.
I encourage all enlightened people, i.e., atheists, to take a step forward.
Best,
Daniel
I step forward
I look forward to the day a non-believer can actually run for any office in the USA and admit it. At least science is allowed again here after 8 years.
... back to the iPhone
if that can be done, someone can come up with a group of specialized linked apps that could access medical history in a database, log in drug and treatment orders (including perhaps an app that checks existing meds and calculates drug doses so you lessen overdosing or conflict reactions), etc. all off a Touch.
The new US administration has a stated objective of reducing healthcare costs through
automation of medical records. Apple appears to be well positioned to profit from this
with the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I wonder if they have any board members who could lobby for them
The new US administration has a stated objective of reducing healthcare costs through
automation of medical records. Apple appears to be well positioned to profit from this
with the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I wonder if they have any board members who could lobby for them
I hope they don't need lobbyists, common sense may be back in vogue
Not, actually. If my kid had diabetes I would have listened with great interest, then groaned at the crappy presentation.
Na! You'd have been on the iPhone to tell your family as soon as it was over and never even noticed the style of the delivery. Come on, if the judge just told you the verdict was 'not guilty' would you want to debate his delivery?
I didn't read it that way at all. I read it as the' Jesus' thing was said by others mocking folks like me who loved the iPhone from the start and this was debunking that and the use of the 'second coming' was rubbing that in a mildly sarcastic way now it is a proven success. As to having concerns about AAPL, I for one share those and it is totally necessary to have a relevance to that in some AI article. Sorry you don't agree and feel in necessary to leave such an excellent resource to us Mac users.
I agree. I think its a shame when people make a perfectly valid comparison that is so out of context as to lose meaning. It's like saying the Wright Brother's didn't do anything special, because people had been creating flying devices for centuries before they came along. We'll have to wait and see how successful this is, but when I told my nephew how this could revolutionize universal remotes, his eyes got really wide, and I could tell he "got it". Its all about deployment, progressive updates, a uniform platform, and a growing user base. If someone had a device that did all of this, but had been around for 4 years without getting a critical mass of customers... it would be less than useless. This on the other hand, is a success story by objective measurements, not subjective hype. Look at adoption figures of Facebook compared to MySpace. Then compare the purchase rate of iPhones to any other smart phone on the market. It's that momentum that gives this story significance and the platform serious legs.
~ CB