"Jesus Phone 3.0" touches diabetic blogger

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  • Reply 41 of 109
    cu10cu10 Posts: 294member
    A versatile device indeed!



    The iPhone can also be a light-saber, a level, a wood surface... not to mention an iPod, a GPS, a photo viewer, a calendar, a web browser, and of course a phone.



    I reiterate: Steve Jobs is a genious.
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  • Reply 42 of 109
    dluxdlux Posts: 666member
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    A versatile device indeed!



    The iPhone can also be a light-saber, a level, a wood surface... not to mention an iPod, a GPS, a photo viewer, a calendar, a web browser, and of course a phone.



    It's still no match for the Pomegranate Phone:



    http://www.pomegranatephone.com/
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  • Reply 43 of 109
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    A versatile device indeed!



    The iPhone can also be a light-saber, a level, a wood surface... not to mention an iPod, a GPS, a photo viewer, a calendar, a web browser, and of course a phone.



    I reiterate: Steve Jobs is a genious.



    I agree, and the Apple team as a whole are amazing too.



    Just had an idea reading your post ... someone should bring out Blackberry Storm, Palm Pre and Zune emulation apps for the iPhone just for fun.
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  • Reply 44 of 109
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Jesus... give the woman a break. The closeups on her hands showed that she was really nervous. You'd have done better?

    And if you can't see past your own parochial needs to see what a breakthrough this kind of device is going to be for a TON of people, then I just feel sorry for you.

    Go back to playing your sophomoric games.



    Explain to me why I can't comment on a poorly prepared and presented demonstration simply because the product is good and ignoble. And the presentation was obviously prepared before she took stage, which negates any nervousness she had when I mentioned the concept of the presentation being poor. Can you not separate the two?
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  • Reply 45 of 109
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,978member
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    Nica jab at the bored journalists and a well deserved one too. Boy was I embarrased for these "journalists" while reading the liveblogs of the event. Talk about no nose for a good story.



    Thank you AppleInsider for keeping the bar high among daily tech news sites and blogs.



    Exactly! They were "bored" because that particular presentation gave them absolutely nothing to write about. Never mind the advances it just created. All they were interested in was the actual features and now how they could be implemented. Sometimes journalist are so annoying.
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  • Reply 46 of 109
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Explain to me why I can't comment on a poorly prepared and presented demonstration simply because the product is good and ignoble. Can you not separate the two?



    You know we all expect such high standards at all Apple presentations, the bar is so amazingly high. Even a presentation that would be considered OK or even good at most such events appear as poor to us. We are spoiled
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  • Reply 47 of 109
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Exactly! They were "bored" because that particular presentation gave them absolutely nothing to write about. Never mind the advances it just created. All they were interested in was the actual features and now how they could be implemented. Sometimes journalist are so annoying.



    The sad fact is if any one of them had a kid with diabetes they would have seen it in a totally different light.
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  • Reply 48 of 109
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    You know we all expect such high standards at all Apple presentations, the bar is so amazingly high. Even a presentation that would be considered OK or even good at most such events appear as poor to us. We are spoiled



    I am not holding it to a Steve Jobs level. I just don't think Anita has any public speaking training. Which isn't her fault unless she made to demo the SW by her J&J.





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    The sad fact is if any one of them had a kid with diabetes they would have seen it in a totally different light.



    I don't think anyone is pooh-poohing the advantages that LifeScan can offer in bettering the quality of life of diabetics. IMO, it was just was just really, really bad way of presenting it.
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  • Reply 49 of 109
    My wife has diabetes. This is the most significant software development in diabetes in the last 10 years. She has been manually typing in her glucose numbers in an app for long term tracking. To have this kind of automatic entry is great. BUT it's only a first step.

    Glucose meters and insulin pumps need to all speak a common language or at least have a common network, ie Bluetooth. I think her insulin pump is RF and talks to her current meter, but of course it can't talk wirelessly to an iPhone, yet. Let's get bluetooth on pumps and meters ASAP!



    I also want to see a desktop glucose tracking app to go along with the iPHone version.



    Also please keep the discussion on topic of diabetes SW, no more critiques of how the presentation was.



    Chris
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  • Reply 50 of 109
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Quote:
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    I am not holding it to a Steve Jobs level. I just don't think Anita has any public speaking training. Which isn't her fault unless she made to demo the SW by her J&J.







    I don't think anyone is pooh-poohing the advantages that LifeScan can offer in bettering the quality of life of diabetics. IMO, it was just was just really, really bad way of presenting it.



    If a really lousy presenter came on the stage with a cure for cancer would we care about the presentation? Sometimes the message is more important, I feel that is what the issue is here. Having said that I agree, yes J&J should be shot using her. Perhaps she was a last minute stand in ... she isn't related to Bobby Jindal is she? ... kidding ....
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  • Reply 51 of 109
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
    Quote:
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    Jesus... give the woman a break. The closeups on her hands showed that she was really nervous. You'd have done better?

    And if you can't see past your own parochial needs to see what a breakthrough this kind of device is going to be for a TON of people, then I just feel sorry for you.

    Go back to playing your sophomoric games.



    Settle down, brother. Why on earth was she even there if she was so nervous? Not that I don't feel for her but in terms of marketing there is nothing worse than a lame presentation - for whatever reason. To have to sit through a dull presentation borders on insulting and it sure as hell ranks right up there among the most pointless own goals from a manufacturer to present themselves in this way. No matter what the product - if your presentation sucks you deserve the heat.
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  • Reply 52 of 109
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Settle down, brother. Why on earth was she even there if she was so nervous? Not that I don't feel for her but in terms of marketing there is nothing worse than a lame presentation - for whatever reason. To have to sit through a dull presentation borders on insulting and it sure as hell ranks right up there among the most pointless own goals from a manufacturer to present themselves in this way. No matter what the product - if your presentation sucks you deserve the heat.



    SuperMacGuy's post #50 says it all.
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  • Reply 53 of 109
    "A Big Platform" mentioned in this article is very insightful. I'm astonished how many Android and Windows Mobile evangelists are too optimistic about how the operating system they endorsed can run on multiple devices. Often times these Android/Windows Mobile evangelists will just naively take the historical fact how Windows can run on different laptops regardless of its brand as an example and apply that history to smartphones.



    The thing is mobile phones and PC are vastly different in terms of how they are developed and evolved over the years. The essential architecture of PC (the narrow definition of PC) has always been regulated and strictly on x86. Even the I/O are pretty much regulated. PC has been using the same I/O, keyboard and mouse for example, for years until Tablet PC came along, which still didn't make much impact to the market. Given that how all the essential architecture are standardized in PC, Windows can run on any laptops regardless of what brand of that laptop might be without putting much effort.



    On the other hand, no one is regulating any standards on smartphones. Smartphones can use totally different CPU Architectures from x86 to ARM to PowerPC. The I/O are vastly different as well. Some might use the old-style number pads, some might use the keyboards, and some might use touchscreens. Even if someone can miraculously develop an Android app that can run on any devices as long as that device is running Android, the user interface is not going to work. Just imagine how the Google Maps App on the iPhone will work on traditional Blackberry. It won't! The traditional Blackberry will need a Google Maps app with a different user interface that can utilized keyboards and scroll ball. Even different screen sizes and shapes will make a big impact. User interface designed for widescreen should be different than those designed for a square screen. User interface designed for small screen should be different that those designed for large screen.



    In the end, even though one is developing an Android app, that app will not be able to run on all Android devices unless one customized the app for all kinds of different devices with different combination of specs. The "write once and run on different phones" concept which most Android and Windows Mobile evangelists dreamed of is not going to happen in the near future.
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  • Reply 54 of 109
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    If a really lousy presenter came on the stage with a cure for cancer would we care about the presentation? Sometimes the message is more important, I feel that is what the issue is here.



    Yes, we would because it detracts from what is being said. Just like we are discussing the presentation now and not the long benefits of such apps on the iPhone.
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  • Reply 55 of 109
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,445member
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    SuperMacGuy's post #50 says it all.



    Yes Diabetes runs in my family so I have to be wary about it. I think the medical potential for the iPhone was glossed over.



    I found that it was amazing to see the history of the glucose levels and easily be able to drill down and see why the levels were high/low. That type of information "at your fingertips" is very handy.



    But I find the media at large to be more hardware centric. Some people had the nerve to write complaints that Apple didn't delve into any nextgen hardware features. It's a SDK 3.0 showing folks. Reading is fckn fundamental.
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  • Reply 56 of 109
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    I found that it was amazing to see the history of the glucose levels and easily be able to drill down and see why the levels were high/low. That type of information "at your fingertips" is very handy.



    I suspect this is just the very tip of the iceberg. There will probably be products this year for the iPhone OS being sold at your local pharmacy.





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    But I find the media at large to be more hardware centric. Some people had the nerve to write complaints that Apple didn't delve into any nextgen hardware features. It's a SDK 3.0 showing folks. Reading is fckn fundamental.



    I doubt that will ever change. SW seems to intangible to many that the HW is the only thing that is considered viable.
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  • Reply 57 of 109
    grlymgrlym Posts: 23member
    Consider that Jobs himself may have a vested interest in such a device. The Whipple Procedure he had is supposed to create Diabetes as a side effect.
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  • Reply 58 of 109
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member
    Quote:
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    If a really lousy presenter came on the stage with a cure for cancer would we care about the presentation? Sometimes the message is more important, I feel that is what the issue is here. Having said that I agree, yes J&J should be shot using her. Perhaps she was a last minute stand in ... she isn't related to Bobby Jindal is she? ... kidding ....



    That was my over-reactive point to Solipsism. My coffee has worn off now.

    I just get frustrated when the whole emphasis is on style over content.



    The external accessory things is going to be big.

    I'm amazed I haven't seen the obvious Tricorder reference yet.
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  • Reply 59 of 109
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Yes, we would because it detracts from what is being said. Just like we are discussing the presentation now and not the long benefits of such apps on the iPhone.



    I look forward to the day to see if you are right. I can see it now ...



    "My god did you see that terrible announcer talking about, what was it... oh yes, they discovered a cure for, what was it, oh yes cancer, jeez, he was a terrible speaker!"
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  • Reply 60 of 109
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    I would absolutely hate if that happened. Nothing IMO wrecks a brand like when great companies start designing crappy products made by crappy manufacturers. Ferrari comes to mind with the junky Acer notebook in ferrari red. That is pure tacky. And Porsche making pens and glasses also tarnishes the brand IMO. Makes it cheap. "I can't afford a Porsche, so I'll get a Porsche pen".



    Somehow I doubt Apple would take every offer.

    I'm sure they would pick and choose who they choose to work with and on what products.
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