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iPhone 4 drops to $99 while Apple makes iPhone 3GS free with contract

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As was rumored, Apple has opted to keep the iPhone 3GS alive as a free phone with a new service contract, while the 2010 iPhone 4 is now $99 with a carrier subsidy.

Both the $99 iPhone 4 and the free iPhone 3GS carry internal storage capacities of 8GB. The iPhone 4 is built on the custom A4 chip, while the iPhone 3GS, first released in 2009, is powered by an earlier, less-powerful ARM processor.

Both devices are still capable of running iOS 5, Apple's next generation mobile operating system, though not all of the features of the update are available for every device. The iPhone 3GS was previously sold for $49 with a two-year contract.

The 8GB iPhone 4 is a newly redesigned low-cost model from Apple. Previously the handset was only available in capacities of 16GB and 32GB, but it has been replaced at those sizes by the the new iPhone 4S, which is also available in a high-end 64GB capacity.

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iPhone 3GS has been free with contract for a good couple of years now. This isn't news, other than that it is now free with contract on a couple of other carriers.
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Surprised about this, figured they'd either keep the cheap 3GS shell and bump up the CPU or keep the iPhone 4 design.
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Originally Posted by neiltc13 View Post

iPhone 3GS has been free with contract for a good couple of years now. This isn't news, other than that it is now free with contract on a couple of other carriers.

Not in the U.S. I guess we Americans aren't the only idiots who don't think about the rest of the world.



My question is if the iPhone 4 8GB is $99 and the iPhone 4S 16GB is $199 ... what will be the price of the current iPhone 4 models?
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By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected and that the 3GS is still a viable alternative.
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By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected and that the 3GS is still a viable alternative.

Can the 3GS run Siri? Survey says: No. Not to viable unless you want to make calls and send texts. They keep them around because they have them in the inventory and after a few months they will quietly disappear....
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By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected and that the 3GS is still a viable alternative.

Uhmm, not necessarily. The iPhone 3gs is still a very good phone (ymmv) and I bet many average non techie folks will pick a free 3gs over the disposable freebie of the week that carriers shovel out.
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Originally Posted by Hamlinator View Post

By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected and that the 3GS is still a viable alternative.

Actually, this is proof that the lining on your tinfoil hat needs to be a bit thicker in order to focus your iHating propaganda thoughts into a more direct beam.

Apple has a "free" iPhone for those that base everything on price, and yet whiners like you still manage to take even that story and spin it to suit your agenda.

The current iPhone4 which is still a fantastic product is $99. Can't beat that considering what one gets. What's your spin on that?

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Originally Posted by Hamlinator View Post

By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected and that the 3GS is still a viable alternative.

???

How in the world did you come to that conclusion?

There are only 2 things that the iPhone 4S does not have that an iPhone 5 could have had:
1) Larger screen
2) NFC

Regd. 1, Personally (and for most people) a larger screen is crap. I understand those who would like it though, so this is fair as a disappointment.

2) Until someone finds a good use for NFC (and no, Google Wallet isn't it...at least Google's implementation is far lacking, and the infrastructure just isnt there yet) I am not going to cry about the lack of NFC.

In every other way, the iPhone 4S is significantly better, and a huge improvement over any other phone. Just the camera (which, btw, outside of music, calling and texting, is probably the most used function in a phone) is an awesome upgrade. I would have been disappointed if it was just 8MP, but that doesnt seem to be the case, since the shutter speed and light capture have all been improved.
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???

How in the world did you come to that conclusion?

There are only 2 things that the iPhone 4S does not have that an iPhone 5 could have had:
1) Larger screen
2) NFC

Regd. 1, Personally (and for most people) a larger screen is crap. I understand those who would like it though, so this is fair as a disappointment.

2) Until someone finds a good use for NFC (and no, Google Wallet isn't it...at least Google's implementation is far lacking, and the infrastructure just isnt there yet) I am not going to cry about the lack of NFC.

In every other way, the iPhone 4S is significantly better, and a huge improvement over any other phone. Just the camera (which, btw, outside of music, calling and texting, is probably the most used function in a phone) is an awesome upgrade. I would have been disappointed if it was just 8MP, but that doesnt seem to be the case, since the shutter speed and light capture have all been improved.

This is probably the most rational take on things I've seen today
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Originally Posted by lamewing View Post

My question is if the iPhone 4 8GB is $99 and the iPhone 4S 16GB is $199 ... what will be the price of the current iPhone 4 models?

What? Obviously, effectively immediately once the channels are clear, there will only be one iPhone 4 model (8GB) available for sale.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post

Uhmm, not necessarily. The iPhone 3gs is still a very good phone (ymmv) and I bet many average non techie folks will pick a free 3gs over the disposable freebie of the week that carriers shovel out.

Agreed, it's a great phone compared to the sea of similarly low-res Android devices. Performance-wise, it's very similar to the iPhone 4, even on iOS 5. Only the screen, camera(s), and memory (apps & Safari tabs load from scratch more frequently on the 3GS) truly differentiate them.
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This is probably the most rational take on things I've seen today

I have an iPhone 3GS with AT&T and my contract will be up January 2012 [around Dr.King's Birthday]. If you were in my shoes would you:

1. upgrade to an iPhone 4GS
2. hold on and wait for an iPhone 5 [assuming it shows up sometime in 2012]
3. do something else

I like my iPhone although sometimes the AT&T dropouts get on my nerves!
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Actually, this is proof that the lining on your tinfoil hat needs to be a bit thicker in order to focus your iHating propaganda thoughts into a more direct beam.

Apple has a "free" iPhone for those that base everything on price, and yet whiners like you still manage to take even that story and spin it to suit your agenda.

The current iPhone4 which is still a fantastic product is $99. Can't beat that considering what one gets. What's your spin on that?

Go away troll.

One has been able to get as much and more for $99 for over a year now. Things like the Samsung Fascinate from Verizon were at $50 in no time. Comparatively, and using your logic, you can't beat that considering what one gets...
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My question is if the iPhone 4 8GB is $99 and the iPhone 4S 16GB is $199 ... what will be the price of the current iPhone 4 models?

You can now get an unlocked iPhone 4 8GB for $549 and unlocked iPhone 3Gs 8GB for $375. Before this update, the unlocked prices for iPhone 4 16GB used to be $649, and for 32GB $749.

I wonder when the 4s will be available unlocked.
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3GS is dead. I read it here yesterday. . . Lemme find the post.

Edit: oh iPod Classic too.
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3GS is dead. I read it here yesterday. . . Lemme find the post.

But it isn't. They're still selling it.



If you'd told me that I would be able to see a line that read "From $0" on the Apple Store, even two years ago, I'd've laughed.

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But it isn't. They're still selling it.

I'm so confused. I don't understand why Apple isn't walking away from profit. It makes no sense.

Edit: but the good news is the new iPhone supports WiMax and is exclusive to Sprint. Whew!
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By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected and that the 3GS is still a viable alternative.

My 3GS has been laggy, even sleepy, with the recent iOS updates. I couldn't imagine running iOS5 on a 3GS.

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Originally Posted by addicted44 View Post

There are only 2 things that the iPhone 4S does not have that an iPhone 5 could have had:
1) Larger screen
2) NFC

3) True 4G LTE

It's yet to be seen if just tweaking the antenna architecture on the phone, but staying with a 3G network, will give the same speed bump as actually going to 4G LTE (as Apple claims). Especially one or two years down the road.

But, in general, I agree. I'm not sure exactly what else people were expecting...
 
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My 3GS has been laggy, even sleepy, with the recent iOS updates. I couldn't imagine running iOS5 on a 3GS.

I've been doing it for the past couple of months. Feels about the same as running iOS4 - somewhat choppy for some things, but still usable overall.
 
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My 3GS has been laggy, even sleepy, with the recent iOS updates. I couldn't imagine running iOS5 on a 3GS.

Yeah. Both of my iPhone 3GS perform terribly under iOS 4 to the point where I feel like throwing them off a cliff at times.

Come Friday morning, I will preorder a couple of iPhone 4S'. A larger display would have been nice, but at least the tech specs are closer parity to Android phones.
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Naive and gullible people are more likely to be disappointed than informed, intelligent people.

It is now officially October, and we can finally put to rest those idiotic September iPad 3 rumors. I mentioned many months ago that I was going to mock these fools after September passed, and here we are, it's October, and here I am, officially mocking these naive fools. Anybody who claims to know anything about Apple knew that it was a braindead rumor, started by dumb people and it was believed by even dumber people. These people should now crawl back under their ignorant rocks and admit to being totally wrong and clueless about Apple.

As for the new iPhone, it's going to sell alright, I'm not doubting that, but in today's society, where everything is superficial, some people are simply fashion whores and it's more important to these types of people that the design of a new phone looks different instead of what's actually on the inside of it. I suggest that these sorts of people go out and buy a 5" + Android phone, and even better, go join an Android forum.
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Yeah. Both of my iPhone 3GS perform terribly under iOS 4 to the point where I feel like throwing them off a cliff at times.

Come Friday morning, I will preorder a couple of iPhone 4S'. A larger display would have been nice, but at least the tech specs are closer parity to Android phones.

my wife uses her 3GS with no problems. She's very picky about things, but she hasn't complained anything of her 3GS except for quickly diminishing battery life.
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I may have missed it, does the new version of the iPhone 4 8gb stick with the current A4 single core processor or does it also get the new A5 dual core thats going in the 4s?
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Yeah. Both of my iPhone 3GS perform terribly under iOS 4 to the point where I feel like throwing them off a cliff at times.

One of the biggest performance killers I've found is having too many apps running at the same time. Usually if I go through and force quit all of the apps except the one I need at a particular time, things get much faster.

This is actually my biggest beef with iOS - having to manually manage apps this way. They need to make this happen automatically somehow IMO.
 
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I may have missed it, does the new version of the iPhone 4 8gb stick with the current A4 single core processor or does it also get the new A5 dual core thats going in the 4s?

Just A4. Otherwise, they would call it 4s.
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The problem with a free 3GS is that you'll still be paying for the same ultra-premium data/voice plans. It's still 3G, sure, but its nowhere near the high end phones of today that justify crazy two year contracts. You'll save in short term, but it's hardly worth it overall. If you don't care enough about top of the line features, probably better to get a midrange android phone or a dumbphone with cheaper plans.
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I may have missed it, does the new version of the iPhone 4 8gb stick with the current A4 single core processor or does it also get the new A5 dual core thats going in the 4s?

Same CPU/GPU, RAM, antenna, display - just dropped it to 8GB storage as the only option.
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iPhone 3GS has been free with contract for a good couple of years now.

Not in the US, among other places. Not it is cheap enough to encourage or even demand that everyone make it free (or rather or just the sales tax) for everyone with a contract. And perhaps it will be low enough off contract to make it a viable prepaid phone option if the carriers want to support that

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By keeping the 3GS around, Apple is just acknowledging that the 4S is not the advance that everyone expected

Hardly.

They are keeping the 3gs around because they know that not enough was swayed by the smart phone game to pay anything more than sales tax for a phone because they felt they didn't need that much. Or they wanted to be on pre-paid rather than a contract.

a 'free' 3gs is a good gateway device for such people. Once you get them using any iPhone it is easier to sway them into getting the even better one next time.

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Originally Posted by ChristophB View Post

Same CPU/GPU, RAM, antenna, display - just dropped it to 8GB storage as the only option.

That 8GB iPhone 4 will be at 549.00 unlocked at october 14th.. I think the last version was a 16GB iPhone4 for 649.00..

Still not bad in my opinion.

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From what I've seen thus far, the iPhone 4S provides everything I hoped for, except a larger RAM. With the size of some of these apps, I was hoping to see that spec grow. I will be ordering my new iPhone 4S 64GB this Friday. My current iPhone 4 is going up on eBay this week. With Siri, iOS 5, superior camera, faster operation, Airplay, and iCloud, this will be a completely new experience! Can't wait!
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Originally Posted by geneking7320 View Post

I have an iPhone 3GS with AT&T and my contract will be up January 2012 [around Dr.King's Birthday]. If you were in my shoes would you:

1. upgrade to an iPhone 4GS
2. hold on and wait for an iPhone 5 [assuming it shows up sometime in 2012]
3. do something else

I like my iPhone although sometimes the AT&T dropouts get on my nerves!

I would see how Sprint fares with the iPhone when your policy expires. Then I would upgrade to 4Gs unless you are willing to wait until Oct 2012
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Originally Posted by sapporobabyrtrns View Post

Can the 3GS run Siri? Survey says: No. Not to viable unless you want to make calls and send texts. They keep them around because they have them in the inventory and after a few months they will quietly disappear....

It ran as an app on the 3GS.
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Now the Fandroids have no excuses left.
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Can the 3GS run Siri? Survey says: No. Not to viable unless you want to make calls and send texts. They keep them around because they have them in the inventory and after a few months they will quietly disappear....

You are a bit out of touch with the average (that's the market) cell phone user. We use cell phones to make phone calls and send texts. The rest is icing on the cake and my 3G serves me just fine.
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My question is whether iPhone 4 8GB model for $99 will be available on Sprint? I'm guessing not, but does anyone have official information? Thanks in advance
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My question is whether iPhone 4 8GB model for $99 will be available on Sprint? I'm guessing not, but does anyone have official information? Thanks in advance

Well, since the only iPhone 4 available is the 8GB one and they've said the iPhone 4 is coming to Sprint… \

You can see it right on the website.

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There are only 2 things that the iPhone 4S does not have that an iPhone 5 could have had:
1) Larger screen
2) NFC

Like another poster said:

3) LTE (actually, I'd delete your #2 NFC and make LTE #2)

A larger screen means a larger case (duh) and room for a larger battery which you'd need not only for the larger screen but also for the LTE which isn't as power efficient. Also, to make a phone which can fall back to older standards (ie, CDMA) you'll need to keep all of those antennas, too. So bigger case makes room for more antennas.

Here's my theory as to what happened today... Apple needed to get off it's once a year iPhone upgrade event cycle. Technology and marketing by the competition moves too fast to wait a year to get back in the limelight. So spread out two events per year. You can't keep the June event because that means the other event would be too close to Christmas. So Spring and Fall it is. Earlier this year they had the release of the Verizon iPhone (sorry, no Spring event for the rest of the world). Then bite the bullet and hold out until Fall, skipping June.

LTE isn't quite ready yet, so let's get something new in the pipeline for the Holiday Season. This means cheap options (free 3GS, cheap 4, etc) for gift giving and the 4S because the 4 was getting too outdated. Then in the Spring release the "power user's" iPhone 5. Bigger screen and LTE. I see this trend continuing for the next several years. Smaller screen phone for the Fall/Holiday release and the power user phone in the Spring.

Apple needs to diversify their offerings. The current one-size-fits-all model they've following up until now is self-limiting. Eventually they need to branch out and offer more choices.
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