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Originally Posted by Seamus1602 View Post

Both sides? Where's your mention that a large number of Android phones sold in 2011 will be unable to update to the newest Android OS?

As you reference, even the 1st 2 items listed by you have now appeared in iOS updates available to all iPhones released in the past 2 years.

So, I will 'call a spade a spade':

iOS has an App Store that allows Apple to review (or censor) whichever apps they wish. In return, they deliver a more stable, more secure, and better liked (per cust sat scores) OS for which they deliver consistent updates that are available to any phone still under its initial contract.

Android offers a more customizable OS and less regulated AppStore (or whatever their name is). In return, you can get features not available in iOS or Apple's App Store. You also get an operating system that usually leaves phones obsolete and unable to update after a year or less and is less well liked than iOS.

Question: After 1 year, is iOS or Android more 'open'? iOS may censor apps, but Android cannot deliver an up-to-date OS.


In conclusion, I think that ConradJoe makes some very good points in favor of the Android platform. But, I also find your posts to be insulting and more than a little condescending at times. You state that whatever one may choose is 'fine', but 2 pages ago you were stating that 'experienced, intelligent, and professional' people choose Android, but that iOS is fine for 'amateurs'. For all the reasonableness of your arguments, insinuating that I am inexperienced, unintelligent, and amateurish for purchasing and liking my iPhone is downright insulting and contrary to the attitude that you seem to project otherwise (namely that everyone can choose for themselves and that's fine). Please don't undercut your well-reasoned arguments with statements that question the intelligence of iOS users.

If he offended you imagine being us and reading a much cosigned Apple ][ post.
post #122 of 137
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post

If he offended you imagine being us and reading a much cosigned Apple ][ post.

So... two wrongs make a right?
post #123 of 137
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Originally Posted by Seamus1602 View Post

So... two wrongs make a right?

Not at all. But if what Conrad said is offensive then Apple ][ is criminal.

Like complaining that someone bumped into you while your friend is shooting bystanders.
post #124 of 137
THIS....HAD....TO...DO...WITH.....APPLE...HOW?

If this were apple, "Apple allows freedom by allowing viruses to infect the app store".
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Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post

I wouldn't call it "evangelizing." But I suspect Android users post here because AppleInsider (and several other Apple-oriented "news" sites) insist on running attack pieces on Android almost daily. Often, these pieces are baseless sneering that willfully misrepresent and cherrypick data. Android users post here to try to correct the record.

The other tech sites mainly talk about their own communities. There are about a dozen major Android news sites; none of them run hit pieces on Apple. The Blackberry sites don't run stories bashing other platforms; nor do the WP7 sites. Yes, occasionally, someone will post an anti-Apple comment on an Android site, but that's the exception, not the rule. Contrast this with AppleInsider or Daring Fireball, which spend almost as much time bashing other platforms as they do talking about Apple's.

It's only on the Apple sites that I see this level of constant hateful vitriol. It makes your entire community look bad.

I would agree with this.

If I even post something that showcases in a negative light, I'm trolling. And it's just this site in particular.

I hang out on Macrumors all the time and the site is NO WHERE near as bad as this website. This site trolls a lot (yet I'll get an infraction for doing the same thing).

AI starts flame wars way too much because their like the Fox News of the industry.
post #126 of 137
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THIS....HAD....TO...DO...WITH.....APPLE...HOW?

If this were apple, "Apple allows freedom by allowing viruses to infect the app store".

You're teetering on the edge. Just so you know.
post #127 of 137
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I would agree with this.

If I even post something that showcases in a negative light, I'm trolling. And it's just this site in particular.

I hang out on Macrumors all the time and the site is NO WHERE near as bad as this website. This site trolls a lot (yet I'll get an infraction for doing the same thing).

AI starts flame wars way too much because their like the Fox News of the industry.

9to5mac even called tallest skil a troll.Apple fans to Apple fans.
post #128 of 137
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post

9to5mac even called tallest skil a troll.Apple fans to Apple fans.



Edit: Clarification. Let's run down the definition, shall we?

Inflammatory: I imagine some people get mad at what I say. I don't apologize for any corrections I make. My intent is never to garnish a negative reaction from anyone else.

Extraneous: As in unnecessary? I would far, FAR consider posts containing "yeah, lol", "First!", and the common slew of others to be "trolling" over anything I've said.

Off-topic: Not often do I fall off-topic, and when I do, it's never for the purpose or sake of trolling. That's just nonsensical.

In the case of 9to5, read the article. No specific article, just any article. People asking questions in the comments that are answered in the article (and which therefore should never have been asked) is completely inexcusable. That often ticks me off.

As to the thread in question (well, likely the one in question), if submitting a pro-Apple reply on a pro-Apple website is 'trolling', then fine; I'm a troll. If that's now the new definition, apparently the only thing I do is troll. Except, of course, the occasions that I make anti-Adobe (for their lack of desire to make usable software at any level; if anyone would like my early take on Superstition, I'd be glad to offer a snippet) and anti-Google (for being outright liars) posts on pro-Apple websites. Apparently, that's not trolling if pro-Apple comments on pro-Apple websites is, which confuses me.
post #129 of 137
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


As humorous as it was to me I can't see how you're a troll. You're passionate without actually trolling. Apple ][ however....
post #130 of 137
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post

9to5mac even called tallest skil a troll.Apple fans to Apple fans.

That made me lol.
post #131 of 137
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

You're teetering on the edge. Just so you know.

The edge of glory?
post #132 of 137
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Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post

I wouldn't call it "evangelizing." But I suspect Android users post here because AppleInsider (and several other Apple-oriented "news" sites) insist on running attack pieces on Android almost daily. Often, these pieces are baseless sneering that willfully misrepresent and cherrypick data. Android users post here to try to correct the record.

The other tech sites mainly talk about their own communities. There are about a dozen major Android news sites; none of them run hit pieces on Apple. The Blackberry sites don't run stories bashing other platforms; nor do the WP7 sites. Yes, occasionally, someone will post an anti-Apple comment on an Android site, but that's the exception, not the rule. Contrast this with AppleInsider or Daring Fireball, which spend almost as much time bashing other platforms as they do talking about Apple's.

It's only on the Apple sites that I see this level of constant hateful vitriol. It makes your entire community look bad.

I call shenanigans. Ever been to Cnet, Gizmodo, ZDNet, etc., etc., etc.
post #133 of 137
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Originally Posted by Splif View Post

I call shenanigans. Ever been to Cnet, Gizmodo, ZDNet, etc., etc., etc.

To be honest, CNET, Gizmomo and stuff is all VERY pro Apple. The same exact flaws that are in Android are docked while the ones in iPhone are looked over.

GIZMODO is KING at this. Even though they are virutally BANNED from all things Apple they only report stuff from Apple. Others...eh...
post #134 of 137
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post



Edit: Clarification. Let's run down the definition, shall we?

Inflammatory: I imagine some people get mad at what I say. I don't apologize for any corrections I make. My intent is never to garnish a negative reaction from anyone else.

Extraneous: As in unnecessary? I would far, FAR consider posts containing "yeah, lol", "First!", and the common slew of others to be "trolling" over anything I've said.

Off-topic: Not often do I fall off-topic, and when I do, it's never for the purpose or sake of trolling. That's just nonsensical.

In the case of 9to5, read the article. No specific article, just any article. People asking questions in the comments that are answered in the article (and which therefore should never have been asked) is completely inexcusable. That often ticks me off.

As to the thread in question (well, likely the one in question), if submitting a pro-Apple reply on a pro-Apple website is 'trolling', then fine; I'm a troll. If that's now the new definition, apparently the only thing I do is troll. Except, of course, the occasions that I make anti-Adobe (for their lack of desire to make usable software at any level; if anyone would like my early take on Superstition, I'd be glad to offer a snippet) and anti-Google (for being outright liars) posts on pro-Apple websites. Apparently, that's not trolling if pro-Apple comments on pro-Apple websites is, which confuses me.

Eh, to be fair, I do not think you're a troll at all.

The only pro-Anything-troll on a pro-Anything site I've ever seen has consistently been Apple ][

I would've actually commented in your defense but I don't have an account there.
post #135 of 137
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post



Edit: Clarification. Let's run down the definition, shall we?

Inflammatory: I imagine some people get mad at what I say. I don't apologize for any corrections I make. My intent is never to garnish a negative reaction from anyone else.

Extraneous: As in unnecessary? I would far, FAR consider posts containing "yeah, lol", "First!", and the common slew of others to be "trolling" over anything I've said.

Off-topic: Not often do I fall off-topic, and when I do, it's never for the purpose or sake of trolling. That's just nonsensical.

In the case of 9to5, read the article. No specific article, just any article. People asking questions in the comments that are answered in the article (and which therefore should never have been asked) is completely inexcusable. That often ticks me off.

As to the thread in question (well, likely the one in question), if submitting a pro-Apple reply on a pro-Apple website is 'trolling', then fine; I'm a troll. If that's now the new definition, apparently the only thing I do is troll. Except, of course, the occasions that I make anti-Adobe (for their lack of desire to make usable software at any level; if anyone would like my early take on Superstition, I'd be glad to offer a snippet) and anti-Google (for being outright liars) posts on pro-Apple websites. Apparently, that's not trolling if pro-Apple comments on pro-Apple websites is, which confuses me.

I particularly like ArsTechnica's definition of a troll, and their policies for dealing with them:

From ArsTechnica:
"Effective immediately, we are adopting a hard line against blatant trolling in article discussions . .

We are going to give trolls an immediate 24-hour timeout upon their first infractionwith no warning. Additionally, troll posts will be subject to deletion if judged egregious or made by a new account. (Experience tells us new accounts that troll are almost always sock puppets, and those that are kicking off a new account with trolling aren't welcome). What's an egregious troll? Any troll that personally attacks someone else in our community. If you're not bright enough to criticize ideas without personally criticizing individuals, we're not interested in having you around. If a user chooses to venture into the territory of trolling others, it is their fault and their fault alone for what happens to them next. We will not weep for trolls, nor will we feel any remorse. . .

The requests for increased moderation come from all corners: people complain about Mac fans trolling Windows 8 threads, Windows users trolling iPad threads, and Android acolytes trolling yet others. The takeaway is that trolling is a universal problem and it isn't caused by one topic, one product, one writer, or any single item. Really, trolling is about one thing and one thing only: an individual's capacity for intelligent disagreement. There is only one person responsible for trolling, and that's the troll. There are no other excuses for it.

Anti-trolling efforts aren't about silencing discord or competing points of view, although the unimaginative troll will always claim that it is. Moderation is about creating a space for intelligent discussion, which includes dissent. But people are not free to dissent in whatever manner they wish. By personally attacking others or making asinine, substance-free posts, trolls hurt discussions. And we hear from too many people on a daily basispeople with smart and interesting points of viewwho won't go into the discussions because of the trolling.

. . . Worried that your inner hater will be oppressed? Don't be. Be as critical as you want. Dissent as much as you want. Just remember that if you start personally insulting others, accusing them of crimes or moral failings, or engage in otherwise mindless behavior indicative of someone lacking a proper frontal lobe, you can and will be moderated. If you don't want to be moderated, it's easy. Don't troll."
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post #136 of 137

Just because you are not able to control your device when there'r no malware diagnostic soft for smartphones and PDA's

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Originally Posted by Ndrey View Post

Just because you are not able to control your device when there'r no malware diagnostic soft for smartphones and PDA's

It seems like there should be more sentence to that sentence.
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