Apple's tablet will be more than a niche product - report

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  • Reply 121 of 238
    irelandireland Posts: 17,549member
    The Apple tablet will replace the MacBook, at the same $999.
  • Reply 122 of 238
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.



    Apple should not allow third party developers to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.



    Apple will not make a 3G iPhone. Nobody cares about 3G.



    Apple will not add GPS to the iPhone. Nobody cares about GPS.



    Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.



    Apple will not make a multi button mouse. Nobody cares about a multi button mouse.



    Apple will never switch to Intel processors. Intel is evil.



    i have seen this many times posted all over

    cutpaste
  • Reply 123 of 238
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,230member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The Apple tablet will replace the MacBook, at the same $999.



    No.



    It's a completely different row/column in the product matrix.
  • Reply 124 of 238
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Why does everybody keep talking about flat tablets with no keyboards? There are other kinds of tablets, such as convertible tablets which are regular laptops with touchscreens that can swivel around and fold down over the keyboard. Wouldn't a convertible laptop running full Mac OS X be far more useful than an oversized iPhone?



    FOR ten years steve jobs next/be and now apple has worked ona multi touch tablet

    the iphone did come first but

    the first dream many years ago was for a larger multi touch screen

    it will be like the MBA with 3 ports maybe

    a powered usb 3

    a usb mini

    an a jack

    you will type on the GLOSSY glass screen

    OSX WILL RUN IT

    AN APP STORE FOR THE

    TABLET AND for all macs will open soon



    An apple tv set will also come out
  • Reply 125 of 238
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,860member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post


    i've the work of some demographics people and we are supposed to be in the midst of another baby boom similar to post WW2. Seems to happen every other generation. there are going to be more ankle biters around and parents will pay dearly to shut them up and keep them entertained on long trips and out on the town or whatever.



    anyone who has kids will tell you that you have to take a lot of crap with you whenever you take your kids somewhere. buying a tablet that will keep you from carrying around pounds of crap is well worth it



    Not all parents would be willing to part with $600+/- just to keep their kids entertained when a headrest mounted DVD player and a Disney DVD would do it better and cheaper.
  • Reply 126 of 238
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,860member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AdamIIGS View Post


    It's funny that you say this, at the starbucks where I live there is a woman who sets up her iMac at a table every day and uses it, and yes the large model, I don't know if she just moved here and doesn't have internet yet or what, but she has it in a suitcase with rollers and brings it in and sits there and works all day.



    So never say never!



    (I haven't seen her in a couple days, but if she is in again I'll be sure to get a pic on my iphone)



    Wow, that's pretty nuts. I'd ban her from the store unless she's buying enough lattés to keep the cost of electricity covered.
  • Reply 127 of 238
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,209moderator
    The price of the machine depends on the spec. I don't see why they would use the same CPUs as the notebooks because inside a slim tablet, they will get too hot and they won't use what's in the Air because it would be too expensive. If it's not slim, it will be too heavy.



    This means either Nvidia's Ion or Intel's Atom with Intel graphics. The Lenovo S12 is $499 with this spec - single 1.6GHz CPU with a 9400M and 2GB Ram. The 1.6GHz CPU will perform around the same as a 1.2GHz Celeron but if Apple get their OpenCL offloading more to the 9400M, it shouldn't be a problem and they can use a dual core Atom. The Atom CPUs are about $200 less than the lowest Core 2, even the Core 2 Solo.



    I think they should use a 12" display at 1280x 800 and aim to hit the $699 price point. A 10" would be ok as long as the resolution was at least 1280 x 800.
  • Reply 128 of 238
    irelandireland Posts: 17,549member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    No.



    It's a completely different row/column in the product matrix.



    I never said it would replace the MacBook Pro.
  • Reply 129 of 238
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The Apple tablet will replace the MacBook, at the same $999.



    Nope. My guess would be that it would cost $799.
  • Reply 130 of 238
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,485member
    I had a very interesting conversation with an Apple security specialist this morning.



    I had my itunes account broken into, and two $50 gift certificates were bought. I got all of that straightened out through Apple's IM service a week ago, though they said a security specialist in fraud will contact me.



    He did so this morning.



    In the course of discussion, and checking our accounts, I mentioned that my daughter in England used a Toshiba netbook. He said that he could see that she had a Windows machine. I said that she only wanted something light for internet, Skype, IM and such, as well as being able to use iTunes for her iPhone.



    Then he asked me if I knew that Apple was coming out with a small machine for primarily net use. I asked which device that was, and if he meant the rumored tablet. He said yes.



    I asked if he meant that he knew that Apple was coming out with that, and again, he said yes.



    I asked him how he knew, and he said that Apple had sent out a BLAST to employees. I said that it sounded odd that they would do that now. but he seemed convinced. He said that it was partly in response to some Dell tablet-like device that was supposed to be out, or coming out for about $399, but he agreed Apple's would cost more.



    Honestly, I don't know what to make of that. I was in partial shock at his statements.



    I have two long time friends at Apple. One is in software engineering management, and the other is in hardware engineering management. Sometimes, they will give me some hints of a product or service, but will never tell me directly, even though I promise I won't write about it, and they know I wouldn't. So this was a particular shock.



    I've asked them, and have not gotten even a hint. Now I'll have to contact them again.



    While on the one hand, I hope this guy knows, I'm not so sure he's gotten his information correct, though he insisted. He said that Apple sent the BLST out in the form of an RSS. He really did sound like he knew.
  • Reply 131 of 238
    I'd like a web tablet, but I'm not sure the world is ready for such a thing- or ever will be. It isn't that much cheaper or more portable than a laptop, which is a lot more capable.



    I would divide these devices- call them whatever you want- into two categories: those that fit in your pocket and can be with you 100% of the time, and those that you need to put in a bag and decide to take with you or not. And I see the pocketable devices (phones, basically) winning in the short and long run, for any use that doesn't require a fully-featured computer.



    For a look at what this Apple tablet, as described here, will be competing against, look up Mike Arrington's CrunchPad. It's targeted to cost $299 before the end of this year. And on the off chance that web tablets are successful, in mid-2010 we'll have Google's ChromeOS running on a lot of them, almost all of which will cost under $300.
  • Reply 132 of 238
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,485member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post


    I'd like a web tablet, but I'm not sure the world is ready for such a thing- or ever will be. It isn't that much cheaper or more portable than a laptop, which is a lot more capable.



    I would divide these devices- call them whatever you want- into two categories: those that fit in your pocket and can be with you 100% of the time, and those that you need to put in a bag and decide to take with you or not. And I see the pocketable devices (phones, basically) winning in the short and long run, for any use that doesn't require a fully-featured computer.



    For a look at what this Apple tablet, as described here, will be competing against, look up Mike Arrington's CrunchPad. It's targeted to cost $299 before the end of this year. And on the off chance that web tablets are successful, in mid-2010 we'll have Google's ChromeOS running on a lot of them, almost all of which will cost under $300.



    It's not just the cost, but how well they work, the design, and what can be done with them.



    If it were just the cost, Apple would be out of business.
  • Reply 133 of 238
    Registered just to post this.



    Why are people so blind about the itablets killer app? Slashdot posters don't get it, analysts don't get it, and it seems that most posters here don't get it either. All I hope is that Apple get it.



    It's for artists. Wake up. Drawing / Photoshop / DS stylus games are what this thing is about (apart from being a cool replacement for rubbish ereaders and surfing the web on the couch.



    All these techy know it alls struggling to understand!!! Just accept the fact that you spout derivative tripe and don't comment if you've nothing worthwhile to add.



    Come on apple - give me and the rest of the actually creative types what we want and leave the benchmark running, closed minded "gurus" to their clueless meanderings.



    PEACE
  • Reply 134 of 238
    ajpriceajprice Posts: 320member
    Hmm, an Apple Cintiq type tablet would be interesting. It would have to have a wider audience than "it's for artists" though. But if it was for this purpose, are you seeing it as a remote graphics tablet for your desktop Mac, or as a single device that you would install Adobe CS4 onto? The minimum system for CS4 is a G5 with 1GB RAM and 10GB of disk space, if this tablet is a low energy Atom or ARM device, is it going to be able to run CS4 (or CS5 when that comes out) well enough?



    I do think a graphics tablet Mac is a good idea, maybe it would be more possible with some combination of Inkwell, Wacom drivers if they can get them as standard, and Back To My Mac remote services.
  • Reply 135 of 238
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,485member
    The very first thing my daughter (who is a photography major) said to me when I first told her that Apple might make a tablet, is that she would get it instead of a Wacom.



    I had to explain that it was a computer and internet device and I didn't know if anyone would write software to enable that function.



    But it would be great if it could be used that way. I'd like to be able to connect it to my computer and use it as a tablet that way, as well as use it that way by itself.



    We'd need the proper software either way, but that would be good.



    I have the 12" Cinteq, and it's good. but the connection box is a real pain. It's too difficult to move from machine to machine. Before my daughter went off to school this summer, we were sharing it, but it took 15 minutes to disconnect from my computer and connect it to hers.



    If this would work with a USB connector, then that would be nice, but I'm not sure if USB 2 has enough speed even for a lower rez device.



    I wish USB 3 were here already as that would do it.
  • Reply 136 of 238
    I've got the Cintiq as well and yeah, it's a slight pain.



    As I've said many times in the past, a touch keyboard would be very interesting as it would open lots of possibilities. The tablet would be better, especially if it's touch.



    They could design user interfaces for apps that would have, for example, a video scrubber, sliding volume controls for tracks, sliding controls for photo editing, etc, etc. It could be very interesting.
  • Reply 137 of 238
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,485member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post


    I've got the Cintiq as well and yeah, it's a slight pain.



    As I've said many times in the past, a touch keyboard would be very interesting as it would open lots of possibilities. The tablet would be better, especially if it's touch.



    They could design user interfaces for apps that would have, for example, a video scrubber, sliding volume controls for tracks, sliding controls for photo editing, etc, etc. It could be very interesting.



    I can think of so many areas in which this would be useful.



    If it appears, it needs some ports. A mini Display port is designed for this size machine. USB is a requirement, and I would hope that Ethernet was available.



    What I wonder, is if the iPhone port will be part of this machine. If so, that would solve the USB 2 video connection.



    As you say, for audio and video this would be great, esp for field use.
  • Reply 138 of 238
    The killer app for a web tablet is the web, and that's going to be the same on all of them.
  • Reply 139 of 238
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I had a very interesting conversation with an Apple security specialist this morning.



    I had my itunes account broken into, and two $50 gift certificates were bought. I got all of that straightened out through Apple's IM service a week ago, though they said a security specialist in fraud will contact me.



    He did so this morning.



    In the course of discussion, and checking our accounts, I mentioned that my daughter in England used a Toshiba netbook. He said that he could see that she had a Windows machine. I said that she only wanted something light for internet, Skype, IM and such, as well as being able to use iTunes for her iPhone.



    Then he asked me if I knew that Apple was coming out with a small machine for primarily net use. I asked which device that was, and if he meant the rumored tablet. He said yes.



    I asked if he meant that he knew that Apple was coming out with that, and again, he said yes.



    I asked him how he knew, and he said that Apple had sent out a BLAST to employees. I said that it sounded odd that they would do that now. but he seemed convinced. He said that it was partly in response to some Dell tablet-like device that was supposed to be out, or coming out for about $399, but he agreed Apple's would cost more.



    Honestly, I don't know what to make of that. I was in partial shock at his statements.



    I have two long time friends at Apple. One is in software engineering management, and the other is in hardware engineering management. Sometimes, they will give me some hints of a product or service, but will never tell me directly, even though I promise I won't write about it, and they know I wouldn't. So this was a particular shock.



    I've asked them, and have not gotten even a hint. Now I'll have to contact them again.



    While on the one hand, I hope this guy knows, I'm not so sure he's gotten his information correct, though he insisted. He said that Apple sent the BLST out in the form of an RSS. He really did sound like he knew.



    Why, thanks for sharing with us that info, Melgross! If there turns out to be no tablet... .. you're ... ah never mind
  • Reply 140 of 238
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yawnstretch View Post


    Registered just to post this.



    Why are people so blind about the itablets killer app? Slashdot posters don't get it, analysts don't get it, and it seems that most posters here don't get it either. All I hope is that Apple get it.



    It's for artists. Wake up. Drawing / Photoshop / DS stylus games are what this thing is about (apart from being a cool replacement for rubbish ereaders and surfing the web on the couch.



    All these techy know it alls struggling to understand!!! Just accept the fact that you spout derivative tripe and don't comment if you've nothing worthwhile to add.



    Come on apple - give me and the rest of the actually creative types what we want and leave the benchmark running, closed minded "gurus" to their clueless meanderings.



    PEACE



    Nice first post then? Not.

    Come on, the possibilities of a tablet is very vast. Just like the iPhone.
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