One-fifth of buyers interested in Apple's unseen tablet

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  • Reply 21 of 71
    Cutting edge new technology with years of research and development. If this thing goes on sale for less than $1700 bucks, I'll be amazed. And then everyone will piss on it for what it can't do, just like the MacBook Air. Which by the way could have ruled the netbook market if it wasn't so expensive compared to a $300 Asus netbook from Staples.



    I personally see no use for a tablet device if you already have an Air and a iPhone. But I'll take two anyway.
  • Reply 22 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    That's what I meant too. Drop the plastic line for tablets. Rename the Pros to just Macbooks.



    If it doesn't work release some new kind of entry level laptop a few months later. But I think it will work. I'd get by with a tablet most of the times I take a laptop outside the house or the office.



    My biggest issue with the mentality of replacing a laptop line with a tablet would be this: Its currently an un-tested area for Apple. I would think they would release the tablet along side the MacBook, and then later doing away with the MacBook and renaming the MBPs once they know the tablet has worked (if it does). Secondly, many people here have argued that the OS will be the iPhone OS. An update can easily bring BT keyboards to light, but if you are going to replace a whole laptop line, I would sincerely hope that the OS would be full blown SL or else it would be way too limited as a laptop replacement. Some people would enjoy that, but not me. The biggest thing I like about my netbook (since the tablet will most likely be Apple's competition to the netbook seeing they won't make and actual one) is the fact it can run full blown OSs. I would hope the tablet would do the same.



    I don't see the tablet replacing the low end laptop lines just yet. If the MS proposal is any indication of what is to come in this arena (and hoping Apple could do better), the tablet may become the next big thing. All depends on how well the input works.





    Lastly: iPod has three lines (Shuffle, Nano, Classic). iPhone has two lines (iPhone, iPod Touch). AppleTV is another line. Even on Apple's web page, more menu space is dedicated to Apple's "gadgets" then their actual computers (which get lumped in with the software and routers). Notice in the online store how the gadgets are on top of the computers? And how they are displayed on the first tables when you walk into a store with the computers on the sides and back? I feel that Apple is turning into more of a "gadget" company than a computer company. If the tablet is released with iPhone OS, it will only strengthen the gadgetry of the company. This saddens me.
  • Reply 23 of 71
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    That's what I meant too. Drop the plastic line for tablets. Rename the Pros to just Macbooks.



    Where people might get confused with your comment it is when you use them "line", as there is only one of them.



    EDIT: I didn't read the comment above this one fully, but I have a feeling he also misinterpreted what you said.



    EDIT No.2: He didn't misinterpreted you, like I did, but he may as well of.
  • Reply 24 of 71
    successsuccess Posts: 1,040member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Here is the actual device without animated trickery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=049_U-0C9qU



    is that S&M looking device really it?
  • Reply 25 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Where people might get confused with your comment it is when you use them "line", as there is only one of them.



    EDIT: I didn't read the comment above this one fully, but I have a feeling he also misinterpreted what you said.



    I think he meant to drop the current MacBook plastic model for a tablet. With that done, rename the MBPs to MacBooks.
  • Reply 26 of 71
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fonejacker View Post


    ... It also looks as though they have stolen a 20 year old idea from Apple. ...



    Given that the video they bring up for a few seconds on the device when they "search the web" is the famous" Apple Knowledge Navigator" video from about 20 years ago, you may be on to something there.
  • Reply 27 of 71
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post


    Cutting edge new technology with years of research and development. If this thing goes on sale for less than $1700 bucks, I'll be amazed.



    The thing is though, you also have to be realistic, and at least somewhat competitive. Even if you're Apple
  • Reply 28 of 71
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by camroidv27 View Post


    My biggest issue with the mentality of replacing a laptop line with a tablet would be this: Its currently an un-tested area for Apple. I would think they would release the tablet along side the MacBook, and then later doing away with the MacBook and renaming the MBPs once they know the tablet has worked (if it does). Secondly, many people here have argued that the OS will be the iPhone OS. An update can easily bring BT keyboards to light, but if you are going to replace a whole laptop line, I would sincerely hope that the OS would be full blown SL or else it would be way too limited as a laptop replacement. Some people would enjoy that, but not me. The biggest thing I like about my netbook (since the tablet will most likely be Apple's competition to the netbook seeing they won't make and actual one) is the fact it can run full blown OSs. I would hope the tablet would do the same.



    I don't see the tablet replacing the low end laptop lines just yet. If the MS proposal is any indication of what is to come in this arena (and hoping Apple could do better), the tablet may become the next big thing. All depends on how well the input works.





    Lastly: iPod has three lines (Shuffle, Nano, Classic). iPhone has two lines (iPhone, iPod Touch). AppleTV is another line. Even on Apple's web page, more menu space is dedicated to Apple's "gadgets" then their actual computers (which get lumped in with the software and routers). Notice in the online store how the gadgets are on top of the computers? And how they are displayed on the first tables when you walk into a store with the computers on the sides and back? I feel that Apple is turning into more of a "gadget" company than a computer company. If the tablet is released with iPhone OS, it will only strengthen the gadgetry of the company. This saddens me.



    I agree- a Tablet released with the iPhone OS will be like an Etch-a Sketch compared to the lowly white MacBook.

    To begin with there aren't even multiple windows!
  • Reply 29 of 71
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    I agree- a Tablet released with the iPhone OS will be like an Etch-a Sketch compared to the lowly white MacBook.

    To begin with there aren't even multiple windows!



    The tablet will run Mac OS X touch.
  • Reply 30 of 71
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    I don't see it happening as quickly, or by as much. They will raise specs and storage capacity, buy will keep the price the same. Just like they do with the MacBook, which the tablet will replace. I'd be interested to see what happens to the MacBook Pro then - a hunch tells me they will drop the "pro" from the MacBook line altogether, and then bring out colors across the line. The "pro" thing is getting tiring anyway, and the differences are becoming too small.



    I think you're wrong about the tablet "replacing" the MacBook. This would just be a bad business move regardless of whether the tablet is a success or not.



    MacBooks and laptops in general make up the largest part of Apple's computer business. To simply ditch the most popular product they have and replace it with untried technology running on a different form factor is a hugely bad idea.



    I think we can expect that the Pros will remain the Pros, and that the plastic MacBook will be re-jiggered to more closely compete with the netbooks (thinner, composite cover, no optical, bigger battery, etc.).



    There will be die-hard laptop enthusiasts (the "I need a real keyboard" folks), and older users that will take a long time to get used to the idea of tablet/finger computing, just as there were lots of CLI users that never got used to the GUI. Apple won't throw those customers away IMO.
  • Reply 31 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    That's what I meant too. Drop the plastic line for tablets. Rename the Pros to just Macbooks.



    If it doesn't work release some new kind of entry level laptop a few months later. But I think it will work. I'd get by with a tablet most of the times I take a laptop outside the house or the office.



    Ain't gonna happen. Apple just renamed the 13" uni-body from MacBook to MacBook Pro. The white MacBook is a perfect entry level machine with zero effort on Apple's part. If Apple were to rename the macBook Pro line, I'd rather they resurrect the PowerBook name!



    The Apple tablet, whatever that may be, we all hope will be an entirely new class of machine, not simply a rehashed laptop or some tricky CGI concept like the Microsoft thing.
  • Reply 32 of 71
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The tablet will run Mac OS X touch.



    I'm hope the new iMac gets a pivot arm like the old G4 had. Along with it's new Touch screen it could be brought down and used either as a Touch or upright as a conventional desktop.
  • Reply 33 of 71
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    I'm hope the new iMac gets a pivot arm like the old G4 had. Along with a Touch screen it could be brought down and used either as a Touch or upright as a conventional desktop.



    I can't see that happening, it's not needed.
  • Reply 34 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    I can't see that happening, it's not needed.



    Is a tablet needed?
  • Reply 35 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post


    Ain't gonna happen. Apple just renamed the 13" uni-body from MacBook to MacBook Pro. The white MacBook is a perfect entry level machine with zero effort on Apple's part. If Apple were to rename the macBook Pro line, I'd rather they resurrect the PowerBook name!



    The Apple tablet, whatever that may be, we all hope will be an entirely new class of machine, not simply a rehashed laptop or some tricky CGI concept like the Microsoft thing.



    Yeah, you're right. I got caught up in the moment.
  • Reply 36 of 71
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    I think you're wrong about the tablet "replacing" the MacBook. This would just be a bad business move regardless of whether the tablet is a success or not.



    I disagree. For example, someone might say: "yeah, but what I really want is an Apple laptop" - to which they would now need to stop up the price a bit. In this scenario Apple makes even more money from the person. And if they can't afford it they would more than often get the tablet IMO, as it will be too cool for them to resists. I happen to also think Apple's margins on the tablet will be huge too. All in all I think replacing the white MacBook with the tablet @ $999 is the right move. To me it even "feels" right. It feels like a very Apple-like move.
  • Reply 37 of 71
    Here's the thing. I think 20% of the population would respond to any survey like this saying they are interested in ANY new Apple product. If I saw a survey asking me if I'd be interested in an $80 Apple toothbrush I'd say i was interested, not a chance I'd buy it though. Interest alone doesn't mean there is really a market for a tablet. I'll hold out that maybe there is, but just that I don't see how. The tablet people claim to want is going to be expensive, unlike netbooks, simply because like the iPhone it is going to need to use some new and expensive tech. A large (7-10") multi-touch screen is not going to be cheap. If you want it to play back 1080p and 3D graphic you need a real video card. If you have a real video card and a big screen you need a big battery (Apple's battery tech may be the one existing thing already laying around in support of a tablet). Even if Apple made this thing I don't think many people would like it nearly as much as they like the idea of it... As I typed this on my iPhone I was constantly reminded just what a pita editing text is on a touch screen... I can type on them just fine, but not having a mouse to quickly go back and revise a word or sentance can suck.
  • Reply 38 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by desarc View Post


    "that 25 percent of respondents bought a MacBook within the last 90 days"



    ..BS. where was this survey taken? cupertino? the accessories section of the apple store?

    how many people reading this forum [self proclaimed fanboys] have bought a macbook in the last 3 months? 25% sounds extremely high.



    Note that the poll was, "for those who bought a PC in the last 90 days".
  • Reply 39 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    I agree- a Tablet released with the iPhone OS will be like an Etch-a Sketch compared to the lowly white MacBook.

    To begin with there aren't even multiple windows!



    Why do there have to be multiple windows? Arguably, multiple windows have become one of the worst aspects of GUIs.



    The majority of people can barely manage multiple windows and multiple applications now, on large screens. Many simply maximize their windows so that it looks like they're running only one application (thanks for that concept MS... yeah, right). Or shuffle inactive windows off the side of the screen, so they waste time constantly shifting windows around.



    How would multiple windows suddenly change this on a tablet form factor?



    Simply shrinking the Mac OS X Finder or blowing up the iPhone/iPod touch OS won't cut it. Perhaps some new iteration of Spaces, with a visual cue as to what else is running will work?



    There are a lot of serious GUI issues that Apple will have to grapple with if their tablet is capable of running multiple applications on a small screen.
  • Reply 40 of 71
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Is a tablet needed?



    Yes, I "need" it.
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