This recent influx of trolls is really beginning to irritate me. There are many intelligent people who use this forum, however, recently they are being drowned out by morons with no lives.
Please go back to macrumors, plenty of your type there.
This is a very generalized statement and is laughable. There are legions of Windows users such as gamers, IT professionals, or those who just like to build their own computer (like myself) who maintain their machine through hardware upgrades. When a new version of Windows is released, they simply upgrade the OS. Hard to imagine in your sheltered Mac cave, I know.
And I have Mac-using friends who (before coming to me) couldn't even figure out how to simply burn a disc with their fancy Mac (and I don't own a Mac, nor am I familiar with my way around OS X that well). So, you're point is?
My point is Apple issue an install disk that doesn't require any of that. It is simpler. You instal on top of everything (yes of course I always clone the drive first but it is not a requirement) ... simpler ... get it? Not having to re-instal the software . ... sorry I thought i what i meant was really, really obvious. I was saying I was surprised M$ didn't make a simpler upgrade procedure. In fact maybe they do, I was saying it was a disaster waiting to happen if they don't for the millions of users who are not Geeks. That's all. Follow me now or still feeling defensive?
p.s. I run a network of many PCs and Macs and have been a consultant to many large corporations. Try not to insult people eh?
Almost no Windows user upgrades. They buy hardware based on price and use whatever version of Windows that it comes with, until it's time to buy a new computer. The upgrade process is irrelevant.
Your right about most home users, but power users/hobbyists/geeks, etc. and corporate it do upgrade, which is quite significant (mainly because of all the corporate boxes). Corporate IT departments never embraced vista for the most part, but they MAY see Win 7 as a reasonable step forward from xp. We will have to wait and see.
An adult talking about little girls like that is just creepy; really creepy!
I think it's time for you to go, and do you not even know your wonderful OS's marketing campaign, you really fail and hopefully will be deleted sooner then later, oh I'm sorry iDeleted.
I agree the rash of trolls here is dragging this site down, it's a shame, at least techstud has something to add now and then, he's a tolerable troll.
My point is Apple issue an install disk that doesn't require any of that. It is simpler. You instal on top of everything (yes of course I always clone the drive first but it is not a requirement) ... simpler ... get it? Not having to re-instal the software . ... sorry I thought i what i meant was really, really obvious. I was saying I was surprised M$ didn't make a simpler upgrade procedure. In fact maybe they do, I was saying it was a disaster waiting to happen if they don't for the millions of users who are not Geeks. That's all. Follow me now or still feeling defensive?
p.s. I run a network of many PCs and Macs and have been a consultant to many large corporations. Try not to insult people eh?
Are they those corporations consist of 5 fat tight shirt wearing hipsters drinking starbucks latte and playing with iChat all the time?
BTW how was the update experience from Mac OS 9 to OS X?
Apple took a computer running a proprietary operating system and upgraded it to a UNIX based system with an IN PLACE upgrade using a single CD.
It was a outstanding technical achievement!!!
They also:
[1] Left all OS 9 apps and documents un-touched
[2] Allowed OS 9 apps to be virtualised in the new system
[3] Allowed the computer to dual-boot between OS 9 and OS X.
And they did this in 2001. Six months later, they shipped a free upgrade to all users with 2 CDs to dual update the classic environment and the Mac OS X environment.
So don't go that -- for me it was fairly seamless. The fact it worked at all was amazing.
Microsoft has never attempted anything like this in their history. Ever. Calling the user experience of this into question is crazy - it would have been harder to have nailed it better than Apple at the time.
The equivalent would be Microsoft using XP Mode to virtualise users existing XP installations after upgrading (whilst also leaving bootable XP virtual partition). Of course we know they can't do that because you can't even do an in place upgrades from XP.
If it is not technically possible then there is nothing stopping Microsoft putting Vista discs in the 7 box, so you upgrade to Vista first then 7. Apple put OS 9 discs in the Mac OS X boxes for users still running Mac OS 8.5 or earlier.
Apple software upgrade process is ahead of everything in terms of user experience. Better than Linux distros, Windows, anything. They've been doing it for years better than anyone, they've had more practice.
I think it's time for you to go, and do you not even know your wonderful OS's marketing campaign, you really fail and hopefully will be deleted sooner then later, oh I'm sorry iDeleted.
I agree the rash of trolls here is dragging this site down, it's a shame, at least techstud has something to add now and then, he's a tolerable troll.
I know advertising campaign. But some average adult dude talking about little girls is deeply concerning and creepy! I know mac users "Think Different", but it's really scary!
Man I wish every OS had the iDelete feature. I've heard Apple spent hours trying to make iDelete fast by using GPU accelaration and CPU multi-threading! Did you know that Apple might use quad core chips in their next iMac? I mean, come on quad cores dont even exist on PCs yet!
Apple took a computer running a proprietary operating system and upgraded it to a UNIX based system with an IN PLACE upgrade using a single CD.
It was a outstanding technical achievement!!!
They also:
[1] Left all OS 9 apps and documents un-touched
[2] Allowed OS 9 apps to be virtualised in the new system
[3] Allowed the computer to dual-boot between OS 9 and OS X.
And they did this in 2001. Six months later, they shipped a free upgrade to all users with 2 CDs to dual update the classic environment and the Mac OS X environment.
So don't go that -- for me it was fairly seamless. The fact it worked at all was amazing.
Microsoft has never attempted anything like this in their history. Ever. Calling the user experience of this into question is crazy - it would have been harder to have nailed it better than Apple at the time.
The equivalent would be Microsoft using XP Mode to virtualise users existing XP installations after upgrading (whilst also leaving bootable XP virtual partition). Of course we know they can't do that because you can't even do an in place upgrades from XP.
If it is not technically possible then there is nothing stopping Microsoft putting Vista discs in the 7 box, so you upgrade to Vista first then 7. Apple put OS 9 discs in the Mac OS X boxes for users still running Mac OS 8.5 or earlier.
Apple software upgrade process is ahead of everything in terms of user experience. Better than Linux distros, Windows, anything. They've been doing it for years better than anyone, they've had more practice.
When you have a next to nothing worldwide marketshare and no corporate support, it's easier to do bigger upgrades and changing architectures than when you have %90+ marketshare!
So According to Phil Schiller, Instead of clicking few times and upgrading Windows it's more logical to spend $1000+ for a slow computer that uses yesterday's components! Phil must be smoking a lot of crack lately!
I know advertising campaign. But some average adult dude talking about little girls is deeply concerning and creepy! I know mac users "Think Different", but it's really scary!
Man I wish every OS had the iDelete feature. I've heard Apple spent hours trying to make iDelete fast by using GPU accelaration and CPU multi-threading! Did you know that Apple might use quad core chips in their next iMac? I mean, come on quad cores dont even exist on PCs yet!
I agree- this instant MS bashing and spining on here is annoying. I want to see Apple pushed as well now that there appears to be real competition.
Ha ha, that's funny, coming from the biggest (read, most annoying) Apple basher out there. Really TeckDud, sometimes I wonder how delusional can you get? Sad, man.
Hey I got news for you NEWBEE- anytime something new comes out- it's the best whatever(FILL_ IN_ THE_BLANK) yet.
Only time that didn't work was for the iPod shuffle with no controls.
In that case it was more or less universally panned except by AI.
Well he is a hipster mac noob like the rest of iSheep community! If you listen to Phil Schiller, these are the folks that are unable to do a simple OS upgrade and hence need to spend more money to buy an overpriced mac! They need their hands held and live their life in an Apple "way"!
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Please go back to macrumors, plenty of your type there.
Or go play on the road.
You shouldn't attack people on the board troll, that's ground for being banned, then what would you do with your day?
You should probably explain why I am creepy, did you catch me with your wife and your 18yr old daughter, cause the word is freaky not creepy
An adult talking about little girls like that is just creepy; really creepy!
This is a very generalized statement and is laughable. There are legions of Windows users such as gamers, IT professionals, or those who just like to build their own computer (like myself) who maintain their machine through hardware upgrades. When a new version of Windows is released, they simply upgrade the OS. Hard to imagine in your sheltered Mac cave, I know.
And I have Mac-using friends who (before coming to me) couldn't even figure out how to simply burn a disc with their fancy Mac (and I don't own a Mac, nor am I familiar with my way around OS X that well). So, you're point is?
My point is Apple issue an install disk that doesn't require any of that. It is simpler. You instal on top of everything (yes of course I always clone the drive first but it is not a requirement) ... simpler ... get it? Not having to re-instal the software . ... sorry I thought i what i meant was really, really obvious. I was saying I was surprised M$ didn't make a simpler upgrade procedure. In fact maybe they do, I was saying it was a disaster waiting to happen if they don't for the millions of users who are not Geeks. That's all. Follow me now or still feeling defensive?
p.s. I run a network of many PCs and Macs and have been a consultant to many large corporations. Try not to insult people eh?
Almost no Windows user upgrades. They buy hardware based on price and use whatever version of Windows that it comes with, until it's time to buy a new computer. The upgrade process is irrelevant.
Your right about most home users, but power users/hobbyists/geeks, etc. and corporate it do upgrade, which is quite significant (mainly because of all the corporate boxes). Corporate IT departments never embraced vista for the most part, but they MAY see Win 7 as a reasonable step forward from xp. We will have to wait and see.
What do you mean by launch the printer first? I thought once you had a printer driver on your system, you would get any updates via Software Update.
Or is the update coming from Epson itself?
Epson
An adult talking about little girls like that is just creepy; really creepy!
I think it's time for you to go, and do you not even know your wonderful OS's marketing campaign, you really fail and hopefully will be deleted sooner then later, oh I'm sorry iDeleted.
I agree the rash of trolls here is dragging this site down, it's a shame, at least techstud has something to add now and then, he's a tolerable troll.
My point is Apple issue an install disk that doesn't require any of that. It is simpler. You instal on top of everything (yes of course I always clone the drive first but it is not a requirement) ... simpler ... get it? Not having to re-instal the software . ... sorry I thought i what i meant was really, really obvious. I was saying I was surprised M$ didn't make a simpler upgrade procedure. In fact maybe they do, I was saying it was a disaster waiting to happen if they don't for the millions of users who are not Geeks. That's all. Follow me now or still feeling defensive?
p.s. I run a network of many PCs and Macs and have been a consultant to many large corporations. Try not to insult people eh?
Are they those corporations consist of 5 fat tight shirt wearing hipsters drinking starbucks latte and playing with iChat all the time?
I was saying I was surprised M$ didn't make a simpler upgrade procedure.
After that recent T-Mobile incident, I'm not sure many would trust Microsoft with *any* of their data for fear of losing it.
BTW how was the update experience from Mac OS 9 to OS X?
Apple took a computer running a proprietary operating system and upgraded it to a UNIX based system with an IN PLACE upgrade using a single CD.
It was a outstanding technical achievement!!!
They also:
[1] Left all OS 9 apps and documents un-touched
[2] Allowed OS 9 apps to be virtualised in the new system
[3] Allowed the computer to dual-boot between OS 9 and OS X.
And they did this in 2001. Six months later, they shipped a free upgrade to all users with 2 CDs to dual update the classic environment and the Mac OS X environment.
So don't go that -- for me it was fairly seamless. The fact it worked at all was amazing.
Microsoft has never attempted anything like this in their history. Ever. Calling the user experience of this into question is crazy - it would have been harder to have nailed it better than Apple at the time.
The equivalent would be Microsoft using XP Mode to virtualise users existing XP installations after upgrading (whilst also leaving bootable XP virtual partition). Of course we know they can't do that because you can't even do an in place upgrades from XP.
If it is not technically possible then there is nothing stopping Microsoft putting Vista discs in the 7 box, so you upgrade to Vista first then 7. Apple put OS 9 discs in the Mac OS X boxes for users still running Mac OS 8.5 or earlier.
Apple software upgrade process is ahead of everything in terms of user experience. Better than Linux distros, Windows, anything. They've been doing it for years better than anyone, they've had more practice.
I think it's time for you to go, and do you not even know your wonderful OS's marketing campaign, you really fail and hopefully will be deleted sooner then later, oh I'm sorry iDeleted.
I agree the rash of trolls here is dragging this site down, it's a shame, at least techstud has something to add now and then, he's a tolerable troll.
I know advertising campaign. But some average adult dude talking about little girls is deeply concerning and creepy! I know mac users "Think Different", but it's really scary!
Man I wish every OS had the iDelete feature. I've heard Apple spent hours trying to make iDelete fast by using GPU accelaration and CPU multi-threading! Did you know that Apple might use quad core chips in their next iMac? I mean, come on quad cores dont even exist on PCs yet!
"Imagine That"
Why - is it that good?
Yes, Apple's marketing is "that good".
Apple took a computer running a proprietary operating system and upgraded it to a UNIX based system with an IN PLACE upgrade using a single CD.
It was a outstanding technical achievement!!!
They also:
[1] Left all OS 9 apps and documents un-touched
[2] Allowed OS 9 apps to be virtualised in the new system
[3] Allowed the computer to dual-boot between OS 9 and OS X.
And they did this in 2001. Six months later, they shipped a free upgrade to all users with 2 CDs to dual update the classic environment and the Mac OS X environment.
So don't go that -- for me it was fairly seamless. The fact it worked at all was amazing.
Microsoft has never attempted anything like this in their history. Ever. Calling the user experience of this into question is crazy - it would have been harder to have nailed it better than Apple at the time.
The equivalent would be Microsoft using XP Mode to virtualise users existing XP installations after upgrading (whilst also leaving bootable XP virtual partition). Of course we know they can't do that because you can't even do an in place upgrades from XP.
If it is not technically possible then there is nothing stopping Microsoft putting Vista discs in the 7 box, so you upgrade to Vista first then 7. Apple put OS 9 discs in the Mac OS X boxes for users still running Mac OS 8.5 or earlier.
Apple software upgrade process is ahead of everything in terms of user experience. Better than Linux distros, Windows, anything. They've been doing it for years better than anyone, they've had more practice.
When you have a next to nothing worldwide marketshare and no corporate support, it's easier to do bigger upgrades and changing architectures than when you have %90+ marketshare!
So According to Phil Schiller, Instead of clicking few times and upgrading Windows it's more logical to spend $1000+ for a slow computer that uses yesterday's components! Phil must be smoking a lot of crack lately!
I know advertising campaign. But some average adult dude talking about little girls is deeply concerning and creepy! I know mac users "Think Different", but it's really scary!
Man I wish every OS had the iDelete feature. I've heard Apple spent hours trying to make iDelete fast by using GPU accelaration and CPU multi-threading! Did you know that Apple might use quad core chips in their next iMac? I mean, come on quad cores dont even exist on PCs yet!
"Imagine That"
Wow do you write your own material?
Meanwhile I still can't print since installing SL.
I know , I know it's Epson's fault.
Well I, and many others, have an Epson printer with no problems, so I'm guessing it's more than likely ... your fault.
And the title of the article reads:
followed by:
And that's a rave? AS Billl Clinton said- GIVE ME A BREAK!
Good try- but FAIL!
Guess you missed the (it's the best windows yet) part huh?
Where's my new iMac?
I don't know. Where did you see it last?
I agree- this instant MS bashing and spining on here is annoying. I want to see Apple pushed as well now that there appears to be real competition.
Ha ha, that's funny, coming from the biggest (read, most annoying) Apple basher out there. Really TeckDud, sometimes I wonder how delusional can you get? Sad, man.
Guess you missed the (it's the best windows yet) part huh?
Hey I got news for you NEWBEE- anytime something new comes out- it's the best whatever(FILL_ IN_ THE_BLANK) yet.
Only time that didn't work was for the iPod shuffle with no controls.
In that case it was more or less universally panned except by AI.
Well I, and many others, have an Epson printer with no problems, so I'm guessing it's more than likely ... your fault.
no it's Apple's fault for not warning me when I was installing SL that it wasn't supported. but it is now.
Hey I got news for you NEWBEE- anytime something new comes out- it's the best whatever(FILL_ IN_ THE_BLANK) yet.
Only time that didn't work was for the iPod shuffle with no controls.
In that case it was more or less universally panned except by AI.
Well he is a hipster mac noob like the rest of iSheep community! If you listen to Phil Schiller, these are the folks that are unable to do a simple OS upgrade and hence need to spend more money to buy an overpriced mac! They need their hands held and live their life in an Apple "way"!
They "Think Different"!