He writes a lot of articles on subjects that I know nothing about. What he writes is very plausible and it's easy to take what he writes at face value. However, as soon as he writes about a subject that I'm an expert in, I begin to realise what a total bullshitter he is. The basic factual errors he makes is remarkable. He cherry-picks data and he twists facts until there is zero value in the conclusions he makes.
Oddly, that's what I think of consumer reports. Seems reasonable until I get to a section I know something about. Then their recommendations and criteria are often idiotic.
The definition we use, which admittedly is loose, is that it has to have e-mail, a large high color screen, supported third party apps, an alphanumeric keyboard of some kind, and 3G. That's pretty much the base today.
ok, so my daughters S40 phone is a smartphone then, good to know.
ok, so my daughters S40 phone is a smartphone then, good to know.
Having letters on a number pad doesn?t make it an alpha-numeric keyboard. Does it have a proper web browser of does it have a WAP browser. Does it have a separate app for POP or IMAP email in rich text?
No, because I was talking about S40, as in short for series 40, as in the OS that Nokia places on some of their phones, you know the OS used by most phones in the world
Having letters on a number pad doesn?t make it an alpha-numeric keyboard. Does it have a proper web browser of does it have a WAP browser. Does it have a separate app for POP or IMAP email in rich text?
So you are changing the rules now to suit yourself? Yes it has a proper web browser, yes it has a seperate app for email, yes you can install apps. By why worry about the alpha keyboard? the majority of phones don't have one, and the majority of smartphones don't have one.
So you are changing the rules now to suit yourself? Yes it has a proper web browser, yes it has a seperate app for email, yes you can install apps. By why worry about the alpha keyboard? the majority of phones don't have one, and the majority of smartphones don't have one.
A QWERTY keyboard has been staple of smartphones since day one. In your favour I was purposely lenient in my definition despite this being 2009 and phones in this category being much smarter than they used to.
No, because I was talking about S40, as in short for series 40, as in the OS that Nokia places on some of their phones, you know the OS used by most phones in the world
When you say that your daughter has an S40, most people would expect that you are talking about a specific phone, not a generalized version of an OS, on some phone that you haven't mentioned.
If you want us to understand what you're saying, you have to make it understandable.
So you are changing the rules now to suit yourself? Yes it has a proper web browser, yes it has a seperate app for email, yes you can install apps. By why worry about the alpha keyboard? the majority of phones don't have one, and the majority of smartphones don't have one.
All smartphones have one. Feature phones that can so much of what low end smartphones can do don't often have one. But we're not talking about that fast disappearing category.
Some Blackberry's like the Pearl don't have one, but they're not really fully smartphones either.
When you say that your daughter has an S40, most people would expect that you are talking about a specific phone, not a generalized version of an OS, on some phone that you haven't mentioned.
If you want us to understand what you're saying, you have to make it understandable.
Actually since not many people would have heard of this Siemens thing, it was very understandable, especially since more phones run series 40 than anything else.
A QWERTY keyboard has been staple of smartphones since day one. In your favour I was purposely lenient in my definition despite this being 2009 and phones in this category being much smarter than they used to.
No it hasn't, there are a lot of smartphones without a QWERTY keyboard, maybe your definition has that, but not everyone elses.
Actually since not many people would have heard of this Siemens thing, it was very understandable, especially since more phones run series 40 than anything else.
More pennies are made that one-hundred dollar bills.
All smartphones have one. Feature phones that can so much of what low end smartphones can do don't often have one. But we're not talking about that fast disappearing category.
Some Blackberry's like the Pearl don't have one, but they're not really fully smartphones either.
Here is the only real definition of a smart phone I have seen.
"Smart phones differ from ordinary mobile phones in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
I see nothing regarding a keyboard there at all, and considering how fast some people can type on the numeric keypads, I'm not sure exactly the alpha keyboard you talk of is of any benefit
Here is the only real definition of a smart phone I have seen.
"Smart phones differ from ordinary mobile phones in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
I see nothing regarding a keyboard there at all, and considering how fast some people can type on the numeric keypads, I'm not sure exactly the alpha keyboard you talk of is of any benefit
"Smart people differ from ordinary people in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
About a high school level understanding of the business models. Will help other insecure teenager Apple fanboys to feel a little safer in their Apple clique.
College level spin though. Regurgitated from Apple propaganda. Hey Apple, how you doing on maps and navigation? How you doing on cloud services?
Actually since not many people would have heard of this Siemens thing, it was very understandable, especially since more phones run series 40 than anything else.
But when you say that your daughter has an S40, it doesn't mean that she has an OS, it means that she has a phone, which the S40 is.
And here in the States, Nokia and Symbian has been a failure, so S40 means nothing to most people. Same thing in Japan, where Nokia completely pulled out.
Here is the only real definition of a smart phone I have seen.
"Smart phones differ from ordinary mobile phones in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
I see nothing regarding a keyboard there at all, and considering how fast some people can type on the numeric keypads, I'm not sure exactly the alpha keyboard you talk of is of any benefit
That's not a definition. It's a general statement with no information whatsoever.
If the numeric keyboards were so great, then every company wouldn't be moving to alphanumeric ones for their smartphones. They would stick with the cheaper and simpler numeric models.
About a high school level understanding of the business models. Will help other insecure teenager Apple fanboys to feel a little safer in their Apple clique.
College level spin though. Regurgitated from Apple propaganda. Hey Apple, how you doing on maps and navigation? How you doing on cloud services?
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Can I have a go, please?
He writes a lot of articles on subjects that I know nothing about. What he writes is very plausible and it's easy to take what he writes at face value. However, as soon as he writes about a subject that I'm an expert in, I begin to realise what a total bullshitter he is. The basic factual errors he makes is remarkable. He cherry-picks data and he twists facts until there is zero value in the conclusions he makes.
Oddly, that's what I think of consumer reports. Seems reasonable until I get to a section I know something about. Then their recommendations and criteria are often idiotic.
The definition we use, which admittedly is loose, is that it has to have e-mail, a large high color screen, supported third party apps, an alphanumeric keyboard of some kind, and 3G. That's pretty much the base today.
ok, so my daughters S40 phone is a smartphone then, good to know.
ok, so my daughters S40 phone is a smartphone then, good to know.
Except that the S40 doesn't do most of that, so no, it isn't.
A small greyscale 104 x 64 pixel screen isn't exactly smartphone level.
It doesn't have an alphanumeric keyboard.
In fact, it's a pretty bad phone altogether.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=22
Why did you even mention it?
A joke?
ok, so my daughters S40 phone is a smartphone then, good to know.
Having letters on a number pad doesn?t make it an alpha-numeric keyboard. Does it have a proper web browser of does it have a WAP browser. Does it have a separate app for POP or IMAP email in rich text?
Except that the S40 doesn't do most of that, so no, it isn't.
A small greyscale 104 x 64 pixel screen isn't exactly smartphone level.
It doesn't have an alphanumeric keyboard.
In fact, it's a pretty bad phone altogether.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=22
Why did you even mention it?
A joke?
No, because I was talking about S40, as in short for series 40, as in the OS that Nokia places on some of their phones, you know the OS used by most phones in the world
Having letters on a number pad doesn?t make it an alpha-numeric keyboard. Does it have a proper web browser of does it have a WAP browser. Does it have a separate app for POP or IMAP email in rich text?
So you are changing the rules now to suit yourself? Yes it has a proper web browser, yes it has a seperate app for email, yes you can install apps. By why worry about the alpha keyboard? the majority of phones don't have one, and the majority of smartphones don't have one.
So you are changing the rules now to suit yourself? Yes it has a proper web browser, yes it has a seperate app for email, yes you can install apps. By why worry about the alpha keyboard? the majority of phones don't have one, and the majority of smartphones don't have one.
A QWERTY keyboard has been staple of smartphones since day one. In your favour I was purposely lenient in my definition despite this being 2009 and phones in this category being much smarter than they used to.
No, because I was talking about S40, as in short for series 40, as in the OS that Nokia places on some of their phones, you know the OS used by most phones in the world
When you say that your daughter has an S40, most people would expect that you are talking about a specific phone, not a generalized version of an OS, on some phone that you haven't mentioned.
If you want us to understand what you're saying, you have to make it understandable.
So you are changing the rules now to suit yourself? Yes it has a proper web browser, yes it has a seperate app for email, yes you can install apps. By why worry about the alpha keyboard? the majority of phones don't have one, and the majority of smartphones don't have one.
All smartphones have one. Feature phones that can so much of what low end smartphones can do don't often have one. But we're not talking about that fast disappearing category.
Some Blackberry's like the Pearl don't have one, but they're not really fully smartphones either.
When you say that your daughter has an S40, most people would expect that you are talking about a specific phone, not a generalized version of an OS, on some phone that you haven't mentioned.
If you want us to understand what you're saying, you have to make it understandable.
Actually since not many people would have heard of this Siemens thing, it was very understandable, especially since more phones run series 40 than anything else.
A QWERTY keyboard has been staple of smartphones since day one. In your favour I was purposely lenient in my definition despite this being 2009 and phones in this category being much smarter than they used to.
No it hasn't, there are a lot of smartphones without a QWERTY keyboard, maybe your definition has that, but not everyone elses.
Actually since not many people would have heard of this Siemens thing, it was very understandable, especially since more phones run series 40 than anything else.
More pennies are made that one-hundred dollar bills.
All smartphones have one. Feature phones that can so much of what low end smartphones can do don't often have one. But we're not talking about that fast disappearing category.
Some Blackberry's like the Pearl don't have one, but they're not really fully smartphones either.
Here is the only real definition of a smart phone I have seen.
"Smart phones differ from ordinary mobile phones in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
I see nothing regarding a keyboard there at all, and considering how fast some people can type on the numeric keypads, I'm not sure exactly the alpha keyboard you talk of is of any benefit
More pennies are made that one-hundred dollar bills.
What's that got to do with the price of bread?
Here is the only real definition of a smart phone I have seen.
"Smart phones differ from ordinary mobile phones in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
I see nothing regarding a keyboard there at all, and considering how fast some people can type on the numeric keypads, I'm not sure exactly the alpha keyboard you talk of is of any benefit
"Smart people differ from ordinary people in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
What kind of dumb assed definition is that?
What kind of dumb assed definition is that?
I don't know, it was written by someone in the industry, but I haven't seen another one that wasn't made up by an AI member
College level spin though. Regurgitated from Apple propaganda. Hey Apple, how you doing on maps and navigation? How you doing on cloud services?
Actually since not many people would have heard of this Siemens thing, it was very understandable, especially since more phones run series 40 than anything else.
But when you say that your daughter has an S40, it doesn't mean that she has an OS, it means that she has a phone, which the S40 is.
And here in the States, Nokia and Symbian has been a failure, so S40 means nothing to most people. Same thing in Japan, where Nokia completely pulled out.
Here is the only real definition of a smart phone I have seen.
"Smart phones differ from ordinary mobile phones in two fundamental ways: how they are built and what they can do."
I see nothing regarding a keyboard there at all, and considering how fast some people can type on the numeric keypads, I'm not sure exactly the alpha keyboard you talk of is of any benefit
That's not a definition. It's a general statement with no information whatsoever.
If the numeric keyboards were so great, then every company wouldn't be moving to alphanumeric ones for their smartphones. They would stick with the cheaper and simpler numeric models.
About a high school level understanding of the business models. Will help other insecure teenager Apple fanboys to feel a little safer in their Apple clique.
College level spin though. Regurgitated from Apple propaganda. Hey Apple, how you doing on maps and navigation? How you doing on cloud services?
What kind of a dumbo post is that?