But when you say that your daughter has an S40, it doesn't mean that she has an OS, it means that she has a phone, which the S40 is.
And here in the States, Nokia and Symbian has been a failure, so S40 means nothing to most people. Same thing in Japan, where Nokia completely pulled out.
Go to wikipedia, do a search on s40, the first result is series 40.
Go to google, do a search on s40, the results are series 40, Volvo S40, and Canon S40, just because you think of a phone (that was a failure as well) from nine years ago doesn't mean that is what all people will think of. The fact at the end of the day is series 40 is the most common OS on a phone today, S40 is used an abbreviation for it, that is a fact, end of story, get used to it.
If the numeric keyboards were so great, then every company wouldn't be moving to alphanumeric ones for their smartphones. They would stick with the cheaper and simpler numeric models.
Go to wikipedia, do a search on s40, the first result is series 40.
Go to google, do a search on s40, the results are series 40, Volvo S40, and Canon S40, just because you think of a phone (that was a failure as well) from nine years ago doesn't mean that is what all people will think of. The fact at the end of the day is series 40 is the most common OS on a phone today, S40 is used an abbreviation for it, that is a fact, end of story, get used to it.
That's not the way people are going to do a search for "my daughter has an S40". I did what people would do looking for, what would be assumed after all to be a phone. I searched:
Which companies coming out with new smartphones don't use alphanumeric keyboards, either physical, virtual, or both, other than the hybrid, and soon to be replaced RIMs?
Which companies coming out with new smartphones don't use alphanumeric keyboards, either physical, virtual, or both, other than the hybrid, and soon to be replaced RIMs?
Well for a start Nokia sells some smartphones that only have a numeric keyboard, maybe you have heard of them?
That's not the way people are going to do a search for "my daughter has an S40". I did what people would do looking for, what would be assumed after all to be a phone. I searched:
If you had written it properly, you would have said that your daughter has a phone with the S40 OS. Then, it would have been different.
Fine I will do that time, rather than assume someone will know of something common, or someone will use something like google, or assume someone will think someone is still using a (crap one at that) phone from 2000
Fine I will do that time, rather than assume someone will know of something common, or someone will use something like google, or assume someone will think someone is still using a (crap one at that) phone from 2000
There are specialty sites you know. Not every search is done on Google, just about 65% here. Searching for a phone is easiest on that site.
And apparently, that phone is still current.
And stop being so smirky. Nokia is not common here, and almost no one has even seen a Nokia phone. Same thing in Japan, and other places.
Just try to conform to norms. When referring to a phone, do so. When referring to an OS do that. If it can be misunderstood, assume that it will.
It is helpful, because you can find all their phones there, use the Find Devices page, narrow it down based on your definition, it isn't hard to do.
It's not helpful, because I'm trying to find out which phones YOU are talking about here.
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What do you class as cheap? The iPhone is free in some parts of the world
The only place that I know of where the iPhone was given away for free for a two year contract was with O2 right before the 3GS was introduced. For a very short time, their few remaining phones were given away with the contract.
Where else have they been given away with a contract?
It's not helpful, because I'm trying to find out which phones YOU are talking about here.
If you look at several of the E series phones, which can quite happily been described as smartphones you will see models that have a numeric keypad.
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The only place that I know of where the iPhone was given away for free for a two year contract was with O2 right before the 3GS was introduced. For a very short time, their few remaining phones were given away with the contract.
Where else have they been given away with a contract?
You can get an iPhone 3G free from Vodafone NZ, looking at Vodafone AU they also offer the 3GS free. There are two places, wasn't hard to find, so I assume that makes them cheap phones since they are free?
If you look at several of the E series phones, which can quite happily been described as smartphones you will see models that have a numeric keypad.
Ok.
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You can get an iPhone 3G free from Vodafone NZ, looking at Vodafone AU they also offer the 3GS free. There are two places, wasn't hard to find, so I assume that makes them cheap phones since they are free?
Assuming that's true in those places, and I haven't seen it myself, then, there, it's a pretty good deal.
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But when you say that your daughter has an S40, it doesn't mean that she has an OS, it means that she has a phone, which the S40 is.
And here in the States, Nokia and Symbian has been a failure, so S40 means nothing to most people. Same thing in Japan, where Nokia completely pulled out.
Go to wikipedia, do a search on s40, the first result is series 40.
Go to google, do a search on s40, the results are series 40, Volvo S40, and Canon S40, just because you think of a phone (that was a failure as well) from nine years ago doesn't mean that is what all people will think of. The fact at the end of the day is series 40 is the most common OS on a phone today, S40 is used an abbreviation for it, that is a fact, end of story, get used to it.
If the numeric keyboards were so great, then every company wouldn't be moving to alphanumeric ones for their smartphones. They would stick with the cheaper and simpler numeric models.
Well not 'every' company is as you say.
Go to wikipedia, do a search on s40, the first result is series 40.
Go to google, do a search on s40, the results are series 40, Volvo S40, and Canon S40, just because you think of a phone (that was a failure as well) from nine years ago doesn't mean that is what all people will think of. The fact at the end of the day is series 40 is the most common OS on a phone today, S40 is used an abbreviation for it, that is a fact, end of story, get used to it.
That's not the way people are going to do a search for "my daughter has an S40". I did what people would do looking for, what would be assumed after all to be a phone. I searched:
http://www.phonescoop.com/
If you had written it properly, you would have said that your daughter has a phone with the S40 OS. Then, it would have been different.
Well not 'every' company is as you say.
Which companies coming out with new smartphones don't use alphanumeric keyboards, either physical, virtual, or both, other than the hybrid, and soon to be replaced RIMs?
Which companies coming out with new smartphones don't use alphanumeric keyboards, either physical, virtual, or both, other than the hybrid, and soon to be replaced RIMs?
Well for a start Nokia sells some smartphones that only have a numeric keyboard, maybe you have heard of them?
That's not the way people are going to do a search for "my daughter has an S40". I did what people would do looking for, what would be assumed after all to be a phone. I searched:
http://www.phonescoop.com/
If you had written it properly, you would have said that your daughter has a phone with the S40 OS. Then, it would have been different.
Fine I will do that time, rather than assume someone will know of something common, or someone will use something like google, or assume someone will think someone is still using a (crap one at that) phone from 2000
Well for a start Nokia sells some smartphones that only have a numeric keyboard, maybe you have heard of them?
Very few people here know Nokia phones. Give some model numbers, and I'll take a look.
Fine I will do that time, rather than assume someone will know of something common, or someone will use something like google, or assume someone will think someone is still using a (crap one at that) phone from 2000
There are specialty sites you know. Not every search is done on Google, just about 65% here. Searching for a phone is easiest on that site.
And apparently, that phone is still current.
And stop being so smirky. Nokia is not common here, and almost no one has even seen a Nokia phone. Same thing in Japan, and other places.
Just try to conform to norms. When referring to a phone, do so. When referring to an OS do that. If it can be misunderstood, assume that it will.
Very few people here know Nokia phones. Give some model numbers, and I'll take a look.
knock yourself out...
http://www.nokia.eu
There are specialty sites you know. Not every search is done on Google, just about 65% here. Searching for a phone is easiest on that site.
70% of statistics are made up on the spot.
And apparently, that phone is still current.
And stop being so smirky. Nokia is not common here, and almost no one has even seen a Nokia phone. Same thing in Japan, and other places.
Just try to conform to norms. When referring to a phone, do so. When referring to an OS do that. If it can be misunderstood, assume that it will.
Do a search for S40 on that site, the majority (ie all but two) of the results are for series 40 articles...
Also no one here has seen an Apple phone either, but people on this site like to make out it has sold well
knock yourself out...
http://www.nokia.eu
That's not helpful. I can get ALL their models on the phone site as well. I mean a few specific models that you are talking about.
None of us here, including you, are really interested in the 90% of their phones that are cheap crappy models aimed at poor areas of the world.
70% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Well, that one certainly was.
Do a search for S40 on that site, the majority (ie all but two) of the results are for series 40 articles...
Also no one here has seen an Apple phone either, but people on this site like to make out it has sold well
You are one of the biggest BSers here.
You are one of the biggest BSers here.
Following you very closely...
That's not helpful. I can get ALL their models on the phone site as well. I mean a few specific models that you are talking about.
It is helpful, because you can find all their phones there, use the Find Devices page, narrow it down based on your definition, it isn't hard to do.
None of us here, including you, are really interested in the 90% of their phones that are cheap crappy models aimed at poor areas of the world.
What do you class as cheap? The iPhone is free in some parts of the world
What do you class as cheap? The iPhone is free in some parts of the world
No, no it?s not. The few countries that offer an iPhone at no cost up front require a cellular contract with a data plan.
It is helpful, because you can find all their phones there, use the Find Devices page, narrow it down based on your definition, it isn't hard to do.
It's not helpful, because I'm trying to find out which phones YOU are talking about here.
What do you class as cheap? The iPhone is free in some parts of the world
The only place that I know of where the iPhone was given away for free for a two year contract was with O2 right before the 3GS was introduced. For a very short time, their few remaining phones were given away with the contract.
Where else have they been given away with a contract?
No, no it?s not. The few countries that offer an iPhone at no cost up front require a cellular contract with a data plan.
What is your point, the 'free' nokia phones that everyone here goes on about have the same conditions, they are free tied to the contract
It's not helpful, because I'm trying to find out which phones YOU are talking about here.
If you look at several of the E series phones, which can quite happily been described as smartphones you will see models that have a numeric keypad.
The only place that I know of where the iPhone was given away for free for a two year contract was with O2 right before the 3GS was introduced. For a very short time, their few remaining phones were given away with the contract.
Where else have they been given away with a contract?
You can get an iPhone 3G free from Vodafone NZ, looking at Vodafone AU they also offer the 3GS free. There are two places, wasn't hard to find, so I assume that makes them cheap phones since they are free?
If you look at several of the E series phones, which can quite happily been described as smartphones you will see models that have a numeric keypad.
Ok.
You can get an iPhone 3G free from Vodafone NZ, looking at Vodafone AU they also offer the 3GS free. There are two places, wasn't hard to find, so I assume that makes them cheap phones since they are free?
Assuming that's true in those places, and I haven't seen it myself, then, there, it's a pretty good deal.
Assuming that's true in those places, and I haven't seen it myself, then, there, it's a pretty good deal.
Here at the links for you
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/iphone/8gb-iphone-3g.jsp
http://vodafone.com.au:80/personal/iphone/index.htm