Good to know about the seamless modes on the others...been a long time since I've used VPC.
Regarding the mouse b.s. I was referring to getting the mouse cursor in/out of the client window -- relinquishing control to the appropriate OS if you will.
Aah. Gotcha. They all use a seamless mouse transition, even when you're not working in the seamless mode, so it's not necessary to 'release' the mouse or any of that nonsense.
About the only time you do have to do that is if the virtual tools/drivers for the mouse aren't loaded. VirtualBox has the benefit of being open source (hence free), but they are all very similar in basic features.
Did you know you can just install the MS Remote software directly in OS X and bypass at least the need for it under a virtual session? It's native, free, and fully functional.
Thanks! I was already using the RDC OS X client to access the WHS console using a hack from Microsoft, but it never dawned on me to use it to remote directly into the desktop.
Yesterday i installed Windows 7 Ultimat on my MacBook. I followed the same procedure from Book Camp Utility as i did when I installed Windows XP in the past.
I'd really like to see Apple finally put some effort into their trackpad driver. The current one is almost unusable, registering unintended clicks or missing intended ones, movement being either jerky or too fast and a slew of other problems. I had to resort to taking a mouse with me when I know I'll have to work under Windows.
Plus, since Windows 7 supports auto-dimming of the screen Apple would do its users a favor by adding a driver for the light sensor to boot camp. I really love that under OS X as it lessens the strain on the eyes due to suboptimal brightness settings.
Yesterday i installed Windows 7 Ultimat on my MacBook. I followed the same procedure from Book Camp Utility as i did when I installed Windows XP in the past.
I am also using VMware 3 and I can access my BootCamp Partition of Windows 7 easily.
I don't know why Apple is saying that Windows 7 is not supported yet.
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What that means is if you call Apple, and say "I'm having a problem with Boot Camp and Windows 7", they will say "I'm sorry but Windows 7 is not supported yet".
That's it. It doesn't mean it won't install, or that you may not have any issues at all. It just means they aren't prepared to give any official Boot Camp support for Windows 7.
Windows 7 on it's own hard drive in my Mac Pro (running 10.6.2) and everything works except for the external FireWire iSight driver. I can't get the Windows 7 to get the driver and I tried everything I could.
If once in a blue moon anyone need to run a windows application they can do so in a virtual machine with a xp that by all accounts is much faster than 7.
Why would anyone want to tax their system with the train wreck that is 7 in a virtual machine set up (or even worse a dual boot scheme)?
No need for 7 really.
Well, for some of us, there are several reasons we want, or need to run Windows XP/7 in full native mode. The most obvious is the ability to play true HD content on a Intel Mac - not the HD-lite (720p) content that OSX'ers have had to settle for being served up via Apple's iTunes portal.
In XP, or Windows 7, I am able to play and burn any full High Definition 1080p HD/Blu Ray video's without having to be shunted through Apple's Big Brother iTunes gauntlet. Currently, no OS virtualizers such as Parallels, or VM Ware support HD/Blu Ray content playback because of the fact that they can't fully utilize HDMI on the Mac's graphics card in emulation that's required for HD/Blu Ray playback.
I have never used Apple's Boot Camp app to install my Windows, or Linux machines on my Mac Pro. I simply insert the Windows, or Linux install CD/DVD and boot holding the c-key. From there, I just direct the OS to the drive I'd like it on (any empty drive that my OSX build is not already on), and then proceed to normally partition it in NTFS and away it goes. I extract the OSX drivers I need to properly run the Mac Pro's hardware (you can also easily get them from several online Hackintosh sites) and install them from a separately burned CD after the OS installation is complete. To boot into the Windows or Linux builds, I hold the options key at start-up and just select the drive I want. All Boot Camp really does is to actively partition either the primary drive, or another drive so that another OS can be installed on it. It also has OSX hardware drivers embedded into it (Which can easily be extracted). The exact same methods can be used for multiple OS's on a non-Apple machine as well - including OSX.
As far as Windows 7 being a "train wreck" of an OS - as you assert, it would seem that you have very little to zero actual knowledge, or experience working with it either in emulation, or natively. Windows 7 is straight-up faster than OSX 10.6 in almost every parameter. Where OSX 10.6 pulls ahead in overall performance is in it's more efficient multi-core utilization and memory usage. Try running Windows 7 in native mode and see for yourself what a "train wreck" OS can really do. While I still think that OX X is the best overall OS out there right now for everyday use, Windows 7 is a serious leap forward for MS and XP users. Your personal preferences and mileage may vary.....
I haven't yet installed Windows 7, but I use both a virtual machine and Boot Camp. I boot Vista when I want to play a game, but for everything else Microsoft I run my Boot Camp parition in Parallels. I'm in no rush to upgrade since there is nothing broken yet.
I still run Leopard on my home iMac (though I run Snow Leopard on my MBP and Mini), while I wait for broken software to be updated for 10.6. Doing this means I have to boot Snow Leopard from an external Firewire drive if I want to play Dragon Age: Origins
So, I really have more issues with Mac OS at this point in time than I do with Windows.
I found that installing everything with Snow Leopard prevented the problems I have been reading about. I wonder if most problems are due to needing Rosetta or Quicklime 7.x not being in the default install.
Well, for some of us, there are several reasons we want, or need to run Windows XP/7 in full native mode. The most obvious is the ability to play true HD content on a Intel Mac - not the HD-lite (720p) content that OSX'ers have had to settle for being served up via Apple's iTunes portal.
In XP, or Windows 7, I am able to play and burn any full High Definition 1080p HD/Blu Ray video's without having to be shunted through Apple's Big Brother iTunes gauntlet. Currently, no OS virtualizers such as Parallels, or VM Ware support HD/Blu Ray content playback because of the fact that they can't fully utilize HDMI on the Mac's graphics card in emulation that's required for HD/Blu Ray playback.
I have never used Apple's Boot Camp app to install my Windows, or Linux machines on my Mac Pro. I simply insert the Windows, or Linux install CD/DVD and boot holding the c-key. From there, I just direct the OS to the drive I'd like it on (any empty drive that my OSX build is not already on), and then proceed to normally partition it in NTFS and away it goes. I extract the OSX drivers I need to properly run the Mac Pro's hardware (you can also easily get them from several online Hackintosh sites) and install them from a separately burned CD after the OS installation is complete. To boot into the Windows or Linux builds, I hold the options key at start-up and just select the drive I want. All Boot Camp really does is to actively partition either the primary drive, or another drive so that another OS can be installed on it. It also has OSX hardware drivers embedded into it (Which can easily be extracted). The exact same methods can be used for multiple OS's on a non-Apple machine as well - including OSX.
As far as Windows 7 being a "train wreck" of an OS - as you assert, it would seem that you have very little to zero actual knowledge, or experience working with it either in emulation, or natively. Windows 7 is straight-up faster than OSX 10.6 in almost every parameter. Where OSX 10.6 pulls ahead in overall performance is in it's more efficient multi-core utilization and memory usage. Try running Windows 7 in native mode and see for yourself what a "train wreck" OS can really do. While I still think that OX X is the best overall OS out there right now for everyday use, Windows 7 is a serious leap forward for MS and XP users. Your personal preferences and mileage may vary.....
My issues with Win7 stem largely from the fact that my printers and my camcorder still aren't supported in it... it's still slower than Snow Leopard which gave a noticeable speed bump -win7's animations seem to make it slower than XP to me.. all in all I'm thinking of switching back to something that "just works" lol ... XP. I look forward to the day I don't need windoze anymore
What is the real benefit versus a virtual machine? I prefer to have other OSes running in a window on a separate display.
Is that a joke? The difference is between a gimmick and having two separate computers. There are easily a 1000 reasons why a tech-savy person would want both OSX and Windows7. They are both very good and have their uses.
If once in a blue moon anyone need to run a windows application they can do so in a virtual machine with a xp that by all accounts is much faster than 7.
Why would anyone want to tax their system with the train wreck that is 7 in a virtual machine set up (or even worse a dual boot scheme)?
No need for 7 really.
You are truly clueless. Of course your user name is like a loud warning that you're about write off an entire operating system and thousands of programs without giving a single reason, but that's still not any excuse.
You are truly clueless. Of course your user name is like a loud warning that you're about write off an entire operating system and thousands of programs without giving a single reason, but that's still not any excuse.
win7 sucks
w7 is a stripped vista that took 9 yrs to complete
just because msft has sunk so low that anything that does not crash and delete your work causes every one to go ape shit \\
mac os can run rings around any program from win7 \\
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Good to know about the seamless modes on the others...been a long time since I've used VPC.
Regarding the mouse b.s. I was referring to getting the mouse cursor in/out of the client window -- relinquishing control to the appropriate OS if you will.
Aah. Gotcha. They all use a seamless mouse transition, even when you're not working in the seamless mode, so it's not necessary to 'release' the mouse or any of that nonsense.
About the only time you do have to do that is if the virtual tools/drivers for the mouse aren't loaded. VirtualBox has the benefit of being open source (hence free), but they are all very similar in basic features.
Did you know you can just install the MS Remote software directly in OS X and bypass at least the need for it under a virtual session? It's native, free, and fully functional.
Thanks! I was already using the RDC OS X client to access the WHS console using a hack from Microsoft, but it never dawned on me to use it to remote directly into the desktop.
Yesterday i installed Windows 7 Ultimat on my MacBook. I followed the same procedure from Book Camp Utility as i did when I installed Windows XP in the past.
EVERYTHING is working PERFECTLY!
Ehternet, Wifi, Mighty Mouse, Sounds, Graphics... EVRYTHING
I am also using VMware 3 and I can access my BootCamp Partition of Windows 7 easily.
I don't know why Apple is saying that Windows 7 is not supported yet.
Thanks
Plus, since Windows 7 supports auto-dimming of the screen Apple would do its users a favor by adding a driver for the light sensor to boot camp. I really love that under OS X as it lessens the strain on the eyes due to suboptimal brightness settings.
Helllo,
Yesterday i installed Windows 7 Ultimat on my MacBook. I followed the same procedure from Book Camp Utility as i did when I installed Windows XP in the past.
EVERYTHING is working PERFECTLY!
Ehternet, Wifi, Mighty Mouse, Sounds, Graphics... EVRYTHING
I am also using VMware 3 and I can access my BootCamp Partition of Windows 7 easily.
I don't know why Apple is saying that Windows 7 is not supported yet.
Thanks
What that means is if you call Apple, and say "I'm having a problem with Boot Camp and Windows 7", they will say "I'm sorry but Windows 7 is not supported yet".
That's it. It doesn't mean it won't install, or that you may not have any issues at all. It just means they aren't prepared to give any official Boot Camp support for Windows 7.
If once in a blue moon anyone need to run a windows application they can do so in a virtual machine with a xp that by all accounts is much faster than 7.
Why would anyone want to tax their system with the train wreck that is 7 in a virtual machine set up (or even worse a dual boot scheme)?
No need for 7 really.
Well, for some of us, there are several reasons we want, or need to run Windows XP/7 in full native mode. The most obvious is the ability to play true HD content on a Intel Mac - not the HD-lite (720p) content that OSX'ers have had to settle for being served up via Apple's iTunes portal.
In XP, or Windows 7, I am able to play and burn any full High Definition 1080p HD/Blu Ray video's without having to be shunted through Apple's Big Brother iTunes gauntlet. Currently, no OS virtualizers such as Parallels, or VM Ware support HD/Blu Ray content playback because of the fact that they can't fully utilize HDMI on the Mac's graphics card in emulation that's required for HD/Blu Ray playback.
I have never used Apple's Boot Camp app to install my Windows, or Linux machines on my Mac Pro. I simply insert the Windows, or Linux install CD/DVD and boot holding the c-key. From there, I just direct the OS to the drive I'd like it on (any empty drive that my OSX build is not already on), and then proceed to normally partition it in NTFS and away it goes. I extract the OSX drivers I need to properly run the Mac Pro's hardware (you can also easily get them from several online Hackintosh sites) and install them from a separately burned CD after the OS installation is complete. To boot into the Windows or Linux builds, I hold the options key at start-up and just select the drive I want. All Boot Camp really does is to actively partition either the primary drive, or another drive so that another OS can be installed on it. It also has OSX hardware drivers embedded into it (Which can easily be extracted). The exact same methods can be used for multiple OS's on a non-Apple machine as well - including OSX.
As far as Windows 7 being a "train wreck" of an OS - as you assert, it would seem that you have very little to zero actual knowledge, or experience working with it either in emulation, or natively. Windows 7 is straight-up faster than OSX 10.6 in almost every parameter. Where OSX 10.6 pulls ahead in overall performance is in it's more efficient multi-core utilization and memory usage. Try running Windows 7 in native mode and see for yourself what a "train wreck" OS can really do. While I still think that OX X is the best overall OS out there right now for everyday use, Windows 7 is a serious leap forward for MS and XP users. Your personal preferences and mileage may vary.....
I haven't yet installed Windows 7, but I use both a virtual machine and Boot Camp. I boot Vista when I want to play a game, but for everything else Microsoft I run my Boot Camp parition in Parallels. I'm in no rush to upgrade since there is nothing broken yet.
I still run Leopard on my home iMac (though I run Snow Leopard on my MBP and Mini), while I wait for broken software to be updated for 10.6. Doing this means I have to boot Snow Leopard from an external Firewire drive if I want to play Dragon Age: Origins
So, I really have more issues with Mac OS at this point in time than I do with Windows.
I found that installing everything with Snow Leopard prevented the problems I have been reading about. I wonder if most problems are due to needing Rosetta or Quicklime 7.x not being in the default install.
Bootcamp requires your Mac boot as a Windows machine.
Virtual Box runs Windows in an app on your Mac OS.
and it's free...... worth checking out with the free win7 download
Well, for some of us, there are several reasons we want, or need to run Windows XP/7 in full native mode. The most obvious is the ability to play true HD content on a Intel Mac - not the HD-lite (720p) content that OSX'ers have had to settle for being served up via Apple's iTunes portal.
In XP, or Windows 7, I am able to play and burn any full High Definition 1080p HD/Blu Ray video's without having to be shunted through Apple's Big Brother iTunes gauntlet. Currently, no OS virtualizers such as Parallels, or VM Ware support HD/Blu Ray content playback because of the fact that they can't fully utilize HDMI on the Mac's graphics card in emulation that's required for HD/Blu Ray playback.
I have never used Apple's Boot Camp app to install my Windows, or Linux machines on my Mac Pro. I simply insert the Windows, or Linux install CD/DVD and boot holding the c-key. From there, I just direct the OS to the drive I'd like it on (any empty drive that my OSX build is not already on), and then proceed to normally partition it in NTFS and away it goes. I extract the OSX drivers I need to properly run the Mac Pro's hardware (you can also easily get them from several online Hackintosh sites) and install them from a separately burned CD after the OS installation is complete. To boot into the Windows or Linux builds, I hold the options key at start-up and just select the drive I want. All Boot Camp really does is to actively partition either the primary drive, or another drive so that another OS can be installed on it. It also has OSX hardware drivers embedded into it (Which can easily be extracted). The exact same methods can be used for multiple OS's on a non-Apple machine as well - including OSX.
As far as Windows 7 being a "train wreck" of an OS - as you assert, it would seem that you have very little to zero actual knowledge, or experience working with it either in emulation, or natively. Windows 7 is straight-up faster than OSX 10.6 in almost every parameter. Where OSX 10.6 pulls ahead in overall performance is in it's more efficient multi-core utilization and memory usage. Try running Windows 7 in native mode and see for yourself what a "train wreck" OS can really do. While I still think that OX X is the best overall OS out there right now for everyday use, Windows 7 is a serious leap forward for MS and XP users. Your personal preferences and mileage may vary.....
My issues with Win7 stem largely from the fact that my printers and my camcorder still aren't supported in it... it's still slower than Snow Leopard which gave a noticeable speed bump -win7's animations seem to make it slower than XP to me.. all in all I'm thinking of switching back to something that "just works" lol ... XP. I look forward to the day I don't need windoze anymore
Best way of installing 7?
Don't install it.
Stick with XP sp3. Just how much Windows do you guys need?
Long silver spoons, people...
Lemon Bon Bon.
i freed my self 20 yrs ago from msft
100 pure apple juice
What is the real benefit versus a virtual machine? I prefer to have other OSes running in a window on a separate display.
Is that a joke? The difference is between a gimmick and having two separate computers. There are easily a 1000 reasons why a tech-savy person would want both OSX and Windows7. They are both very good and have their uses.
If once in a blue moon anyone need to run a windows application they can do so in a virtual machine with a xp that by all accounts is much faster than 7.
Why would anyone want to tax their system with the train wreck that is 7 in a virtual machine set up (or even worse a dual boot scheme)?
No need for 7 really.
You are truly clueless. Of course your user name is like a loud warning that you're about write off an entire operating system and thousands of programs without giving a single reason, but that's still not any excuse.
You are truly clueless. Of course your user name is like a loud warning that you're about write off an entire operating system and thousands of programs without giving a single reason, but that's still not any excuse.
win7 sucks
w7 is a stripped vista that took 9 yrs to complete
just because msft has sunk so low that anything that does not crash and delete your work causes every one to go ape shit \\
mac os can run rings around any program from win7 \\
any program at all \\
msft office runs far faster and better on MACOS !
what does that tell you ??
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win7 sucks
w7 is a stripped vista that took 9 yrs to complete
just because msft has sunk so low that anything that does not crash and delete your work causes every one to go ape shit \\
mac os can run rings around any program from win7 \\
any program at all \\
msft office runs far faster and better on MACOS !
what does that tell you ??
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That you are delusional..?