Google struggling to support angry Nexus One buyers

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  • Reply 201 of 211
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    I don't know if it's Google encouraging it, or if it's just an inevitable outgrowth of their sort of Asperger-y, engineering-centric take on the world. Like "What is this "style" you speak of? Are you a homosexual of some sort?"



    We kind of have that with the Droid Ads. It's trying to paint the iPhone as a "women's" phone. I mean, the Droid is all so masculine, isn't it? so square, so black, so chunky. Spaceships, meteoroids and all, slamming into the ground streaming fire.



    So now that mid 20's something male looks upon the Droid more favorably than the iPhone. How long that will last, I don't know.



    Maybe until they find the battery cover keeps falling off and they have to tape it back on. With all their iPhone friends laughing at them, they might not find it so masculine anymore.
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  • Reply 202 of 211
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    A short review (there will be a complete one later) of the Nexus.



    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...-nexus-one.ars
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  • Reply 203 of 211
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Here's another reason why Android will be confusing, the "new" Samsung Galaxy Spica. It has a 3.2"screen, with HVGA rez, a 3 MP camera, and get this, just like the new HTC Droid Eris, Android 1.5.



    Yup, the old, now obsolete version. Unless this is completely different from all other 1.5 version phones, there will be NO OS upgrade in the works to 2.x. Maybe not to 1.6 (or why didn't they include that as other phones have it?).



    So software choices will be very limited.



    Just as I've been saying, the Android is splitting into low end phones, mid phones, and high end phones, as well as different OS's GUI's. Look at the mention of Samsung's GUI for their better Android phones

    .

    http://www.macworld.com/article/1455...axy_spica.html



    I wonder how many people buying this, and the Eris will know that their phone is crippled until after they have it?
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  • Reply 204 of 211
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    I don't know if it's Google encouraging it, or if it's just an inevitable outgrowth of their sort of Asperger-y, engineering-centric take on the world. Like "What is this "style" you speak of? Are you a homosexual of some sort?"



    As far as I could tell, Google certainly didn't try to stop Moto or Verizon from doing it with the phone that's running their OS. Silent approval, no?
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  • Reply 205 of 211
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    The quality of the vitriol is starting to paint a very unflattering portrait of the Android fanboy: an adolescent boy of whatever age.



    Who are adolescent boys afraid of? Women, gays, being perceived as gay, and people with any kind of wit and style who they regard as "posers" and gay.



    What do the Nexus One defenders resort to? Declaring that iPhone users are gay, women, posers, gay, pretentious, insufficiently tech savvy, and gay.



    really ??

    that is just plain sad



    i

    well

    err

    my only REAL beef is the name



    blade runner owns the nexus 6 title



    and i remember the PALM PRE cracked screens blow up >>where so many people just missed the 30 day return date and yet on an ad hoc basis scores of sprint workers still gave back the money or switched it out

    even 34 days after buying ]

    to day palm pre is a fine 2nd tier smart phone that many have grown to love



    what web site would allow such tasteless and demeaning comments to be posted ?? insufficiently tech savvy is the straw that broke m y back ..mountain

    get it ??

    dunb joke ..i painted all day





    peace extemeter and i hope you find a place in the sun that is for you

    good bye for now
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  • Reply 206 of 211
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    @extremeskater

    I've read your posts over some weeks now and I'm worried about you kid. You really mustn't skip taking the tablets.

    Clearly your mum was an early adopter too and clearly she has paid the price for that but (hey!) she stuck with you nevertheless even though there was no compensatory rebate. Kudos to her.

    Fool of a fool.

    But wait. I am the embodiment of kindness, after all, so here is a beginner's lesson....just for little old you. Learn it well my bozo.

    Now repeat slowly after me........



    Early adopters are the ones who take the risks and breathe life into innovation.

    Without innovation, there is no progress.

    Therefore early adopters are the champions, the sponsors, of all progress.

    In brief therefore: No early adopters= No, or very slow, progress.



    Write it down. Put the paper in your mouth. Chew slowly. Swallow. Digest it well.

    Now go stand facing the corner and do ten reps of this axiom by yourself.

    Repeat daily for a month.



    Anyone with a brain knows that if you want valuable, innovative products, you go where you can find that and you buy, buy, buy. NO hesitation baby! There is risk in everything, just as in your case my little bozo, and early adopters know that. That's why you survived the slops bucket to vent your bitter loser spleen so often here. The point is, unlike you, most thinking people take the risk knowing that, with the right company, they will never be intentionally short-changed. If their purchase is slightly flawed in its first iteration, they will be listened to and a correction will be made. Any company is free to revise its specs or prices without prior notice. I guess that bothers you because you can't stand that. It makes you feel so powerless and weak, boo hoo, mommeee. But guess what? It's true in your case. You ARE powerless and impotently weak. That is the only thing that comes through so strong and clear in your posts. The ONLY thing mind you. I guess you never realised that. The problem isn't WHAT you say my little bozo, but WHY you say what you do.

    But it doesn't have to be that way you know. You see, Steve Jobs knows a bozo when he sees one and he is a good man and so the folks at Apple love you too and made sure there's an app for your condition. Errr WTF is it called now? Hmmm. Oh yeah, it's called 'Get a life sucker.' I think it's free for people like you, with TIBS..... That's Terminal Impotence Bitterness Syndrome but hey, why am I telling you that? You knew that already. Eeesh!

    I can think of no other company which, having decided to lower its prices so significantly, so soon after a new product release, also gives enough of a damn to lessen any feeling of buyer's remorse among its customers by swiftly offering a gift in recompense. No one asked for or even expected that, my little bozo. There was no commercial reason to do it either. What would have been better IYO my little bozo? Perhaps you would have liked them to go on charging the old, higher, price for as long as they thought they could get away with it? I mean, who (outside Apple) knew it was over-priced? No one. So you got the wrong company dummy. That is why you are my little bozo. You're good at getting things bass-ackwards. You see, your loser friends at MS and GOOG would have cheerfully done that to you and just laughed at their shit on your face and moved on without a thought for your feelings. Hilarious really and you would deserve that. Hilarious really and you would enjoy that too. Hilarious. Just like your TIBS values and principles.

    Now do what you do best. Go away and play with yourself whydontcha? You know it's the only thing that makes you feel better nowadays.

    Fool of a fool. Really.

    It's a kindness I am doing to you, telling you that. I'm giving you pearls here kid. Because there is a cure at the App Store. But you have to take that first step es. On your ownsome es. No one can do that but you my little bozo. I know you find it scary but you gotta try to fix that screwed up UI of yours.

    You'll feel better. Promise.

    You can dump the tablets afterwards. Promise.

    You'll even smile sometimes. Promise.

    So do it. You never know. You could even grow some of your own and become........a contender.

    Oh boy. Imagine that.



    As you can see, I have spent some time trying to help you. But only you can go to the App Store and start to feel better.



    ChandraC



    Beautiful writing. Better than Salman Rushdie. Do you have a blog anywhere? I wish you would pen a few words in memory of Cheney and Bush. I miss them so.
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  • Reply 207 of 211
    ilogicilogic Posts: 298member
    This is what happens when you try to out Apple Apple before you're ready...



    Companies don't get it, you need to have your ducks lined up before you can start firing... and you can't fire on all cannons, you need to fire the first and see if it hits, then you fire the next one and so on... then you're only problem will be to keep up...
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  • Reply 208 of 211
    Just some personal experience.



    I'd got an nearby 15 month old iPhone 3g. It had an enclosure crack at the iPod connector and one at the sleep/wake-button after really "heavy" use.



    I called apple care december the thirty-first. I explained the damage and the employee asked for some photos. I sent the photos via provided email address and asked for the timespan the replacement would take, if they'd agree that it's a warranty issue, because I'm dependent on the phone (some apps).



    The shipping order was submitted at 6:00 pm and I got the new phone on january the fourth 9:30 am, being notified one day before. (It can't always be that perfect.)



    I do a lot of support for my own software. Support costs a lot of money.



    You have to train yourself and your employees, provide technical information, infrastructure and beside knowledge you need a lot of rhetorical and psychological skills. (And sometimes a lot of self control and really steady nerves)



    Customer support is a part of your corporate strategy. If you admit to it low-price products or fast (development) paradigm shifts are prohibited.
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  • Reply 209 of 211
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IHateRegistering View Post


    Will this also be true to some extent with the Apple Tablet? Of course it will, but there are still thousands of users on this board willing to shell out for Version 1.0.



    Thousands, even hundreds of thousands around the world, will want to be the first with the Apple Tablet. The difference between that and the Google Nexus One is bigger than first thought. It's the Apple ecosystem, they have a good track record, software updates are reasonably timely, it may not do everything but it will probably do what it does quite alright. Hardware product warranty is quite good with Apple products, relatively speaking. If it has glass and unibody aluminium, which it will proably have, then it should be quite sturdy. My Macbook Aluminium is probably the most robust Mac or PC laptop I have ever experienced, better than the Titanium Powerbook G4 (though I like that design one of the most).



    If Steve Jobs unveils the Tablet, expect quick sell out of the first few batches. If Steve wasn't as involved with Apple, then people might have some reservations, but would probably be lining up to get it nonetheless.
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  • Reply 210 of 211
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    We kind of have that with the Droid Ads. It's trying to paint the iPhone as a "women's" phone. I mean, the Droid is all so masculine, isn't it? so square, so black, so chunky. Spaceships, meteoroids and all, slamming into the ground streaming fire...



    Being here in Asia, I checked out a Droid ad on YouTube. Within the first few seconds, with the Stealth Fighters or what not, I was just like, hmmm, clearly targeted towards a certain demographic...



    Dude, this Droid, is like, totally awesome. Imma check my Facebook and then let's get wasted and score with some hot chicks, yeah, high fives all around...!!!







    I think my body produces reasonable amounts of testosterone but luckily (I think) it doesn't flood my brain.



    I think the iPhone is not regarded as being homosexual in any significant way mainly because everybody and their dog has it. It would be a hard perception to manufacture.
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