Fair enough. Early adoption has a lot of risks. But like I was saying, we'll see whether they can improve. Apple did have some screw ups but overall satisfaction and improvement is undeniable.
I'd like to see how Google and HTC move along from this. The big risk is that HTC is not a *fantastic* brand, and Google is very new to the hardware game and may have not fully worked out how their involvement in hardware is going to play out.
That was the point I was attempting to make. When you look at the first iPhone compared to the 3Gs quite an improvement. Not to mention when you look back paying 599.00 for an 8GB iPhone seems funny in such a short time.
You're right HTC isn't that great, its going to take time for most of the new Android based phone to improve. The Nexus One does look like a bad phone but the best way to fail is to have poor customer service. Thats Apple biggest advantage even when there are problems their customer service is about the best. I once had a problem with my iMac my Apple Store simply took it and handed me a new one and the iMac was 8 months old.
If you stood in line for the first iPhone more then your money mangement skills needed improvement. Your medication needed adjustment. I'm sure that EDGE network speed at the time was great to work with.......
New owners of the Nexus One are complaining that they can't find answers to support issues from Google, and that they're being passed back and forth between it, HTC, and T-Mobile.
A report by PC World detailed several of the hundreds of complaints users have posed to Google's support forums.
Prior to the phone's launch, many pundits predicted that Google's positive brand familiarity with consumers would give it a strong position to market a smartphone. However, the new smartphone (or "superphone" as Google executives like to call it) is the company's first attempt at selling hardware to consumers.
Like Microsoft, Google is discovering that selling software (or in Google's case, giving away free software supported by ads) is a very different business than selling and supporting hardware.
Despite its global domination of the PC operating system and productivity suite markets, Microsoft has struggled to even break even with its Xbox franchise as support issues ballooned into a $1.4 billion write-off. The company's effort to push the Zune against the iPod fell completely flat, even with major retail partners lined up to promote it.
Google avoided the difficult business of retail in the launch of the Nexus One. The phone was designed and built by HTC but is marketed and sold by Google directly from its website.
However, customers buying the device are finding that Google's level of customer support is limited to email, which is only answered in a day or two. There's no direct phone support available at all.
That might be sufficient for users of free software, but it isn't being received well by customers who spent $540 on the new unlocked device. Users who went to T-Mobile or HTC reported getting a general runaround and bad support there as well, with some users complaining that they were told the phone doesn't support 3G at all.
One user in the report said he'd spent an hour and a half being transferred between HTC and T-Mobile after Google failed to help. "T-Mobile also said Google hasn't provided them with any support documents for the phone. Welcome to direct sales Google!" the user complained.
Another user facing similar issued wrote, "I guess I was under the wrong impression but I thought Google would handle the service on the phone."
Apple has faced some issues at each launch of new iPhone models, but had resources in place to handle those issues based on its decades-long experience in selling and supporting consumer electronics.
When launching the iPhone, Apple staunchly insisted that AT&T and other carrier partners allow it to handle much of the customer support itself, which helped to head off the problem of users being passed back and forth between the hardware vendor, the carrier, and the software developer.
Google? I will make it simple: Legit pack of thieves and freeloaders. They do not create content, but freeload off others' content and make money. Everything from newspapers to books.
What is worse, they had their CEO as a board member of Apple. He must have signed - or it was implied - that there should be no conflict of interest. Instead he gets the road map of Apple regarding the iPhone, iPod Touch, and who knows what else. How else could they come with competing products so fast???
I'm not trolling at all. The Nexus One situation is another perfect example how early adopters lose. When you feel the need to be the first on your block to have the new technology be prepared to take it hard and deep.
i name you mini TS
dude there is no google support at all...no one is home..
its not another perfect example of early ad...
IT is THE perfect all time example of not buying a product on its first cycle
except of course for any apple product
they are made with love and kindness and sweet things
They're actually trying to sell a phone with email support only? That beggars belief.
Or, "Requires the willing suspension of disbelief!" said our beloved Secretary of State, then Senator, Hillary Clinton as she showed her usual support for the armed forces.
It's like the comic books. Every hero needs a villain and vice versa. User MobileMe has emerged because of yourself. Who is the hero and how is the villain, I leave it to you all to work out.
I emerged cause besides Quadra I'm the only other Apple evangelist in these forums and I'm proud of that.
To give you some little insight about how much I love apple.
When I create a document in iWork, I NEVER SEND IT TO A NON MAC USER IN A WORD FORMAT, I will send it in PDF or RTF before my cursor even hovers over that sorry excuse for a word processor.
In the past when I went to a site that required IE or Firefox, I simply wrote the site off and decided to find other means to get work done.
If it's not owned by Apple, I don't want it near me in my Apple enviornment.
With the exception of Adobe (but if Aperture X, Gives a better alternative to Adobe, then I will be glad to kiss that POC adobe good bye)
I'm probably more die hard Apple then Quadra now that I think of it. Though he is a Apple Cultist... I put God/jesus first and then Steve Jobs/Apple
When I create a document in iWork, I NEVER SEND IT TO A NON MAC USER IN A WORD FORMAT, I will send it in PDF or RTF before my cursor even hovers over that sorry excuse for a word processor.
extreme, dial the personal insults back a bit perhaps - they do your case no good at all. The price of early adoption is of course higher prices and the risk of major fubars like the Google support issue (and, as you mentioned, Apple's and ATT's support issues as well). The fact remains that early adoption is pretty much like any other hobby - its where you choose to spend your money. I was an early adopter of the 1st gen iPhone which is still in fine operation today. I have contemplated upgrading to a 3G or 3GS - but really don't have a need to - my early adopter 1st gen iPhone is still working wonderfully for me. The upside to my experience is that I was one of the first, I was in on ground level as Apple worked out the development and evolution of the entire programme that became the iPhone+iTunes+App Store framework which has been so successful. And in this case - I can look back over the 2.5 years that I have owned this device and see where I have directly or indirectly influenced others in their decisions as to whether or not to buy an iPhone. Price that experience. Or perhaps don't because it has no intrinsic value to you - you seem to be someone who would rather hang back in the pack and let others take the risks for you. And that's fine. But you have no basis to ridicule those who step out and take the risks in order to satisfy their curiosity, their desire to be among the first to use a new design.
For what it's worth let's look at what was spent and what it replaced: iPhone $699. Replaced Palm Tungsten E $199+iPod 30GB $189+Nokia cellphone $150. Net difference:$161. Now factor in the fact that since I started using my iPhone for most of my mobility needs - I have effectively postponed for the last two years the purchase of a laptop, and that seems like it will be indefinite now. I simply don't need a laptop with all my 1st gen iPhone does for me. I won't even bother adding in the discount of the money I'm saving for not buying a laptop. So how does this all equate to me paying a higher price? Not only did I get to be among the first but my TCO and TRI goes down and up respectively each day I continue to own my "over-priced" eraly-adopted piece of kit.
Google? I will make it simple: Legit pack of thieves and freeloaders. They do not create content, but freeload off others' content and make money. Everything from newspapers to books.
The books, I get that. I don't understand what they're doing, I really don't think "ask forgiveness later" is good policy.
But they do provide services, it's not just free loading as you might impugn. The information you find on Google is going to be the same information that's available to other search engines.
On the newspapers, they're just being bombastic. If the newspapers don't want Google indexing their material, they only need to add a deny in robots.txt on their web servers, they respect that. Even if they didn't respect that, Google's spiders can be blocked/denied on an IP level. So when newspapers complain about Google, they really aren't being serious, it's just PR, and sad PR at that.
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What is worse, they had their CEO as a board member of Apple. He must have signed - or it was implied - that there should be no conflict of interest. Instead he gets the road map of Apple regarding the iPhone, iPod Touch, and who knows what else. How else could they come with competing products so fast???
Maybe you missed the stories where he recuses himself of meetings when the iPhone comes up? And the stories where the Apple board was fine with his presence all along? They didn't force him away, he left on his own. If they thought he was a threat, they could have forced him to leave, which suggests to me that your paranoia in the case of the board seat is probably unfounded. That somehow you see something they didn't is unlikely.
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Dude stop it! Just stop!.... CHROME IS A COPY OFF APPLE... Okay they use webkit (A standard Apple pushed) and made it mainstream for future browser implementations.... GOOGLE COPIES !! Face it man! Google is just a POC and they need to stick with search and get chrome off the OS X platform... Steve doesn't want it, Apple doesn't want it, I DON'T WANT IT, ...tell them to stay on Windows or whatever other platform that doesn't start with OS X
If you don't want it, you don't have to use it. How do you know that Steve doesn't want it, anyway? I highly doubt you know much about what Mr. Jobs wants, judging by your tacky rainbow signature, I doubt you're channeling him very well.
Apple could have made their own rendering engine and made it proprietary rather than collaborate publicly. Instead, they used an open source browser. I recall Google made a Javascript engine for their own browser, and other things that other browsers didn't do yet. Which is part of the idea of the open source ideal, building on existing work rather than reinvent the entire wheel every time.
If you want to be ahead of the curve you need to pay for this. These are not unwise consumers, they make a concious decision to pay more to have what they want. A lot of early adopters later review the products they bought, either for money or for their friends and family. Those who want the best deal will wait, and those who want the latest will have to pay.
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No really they are unwise consumers. But thats okay they make things better for us.
Mmm... Is it always so?
What if early adoption of the device (or service) makes it possible for the consumer to save money or creates an opportunity that would not, otherwise, exist.
Would it really matter what you paid if you bought a device or service that got you a better job or saved your life?
I realize that we both are stretching the definition of consumer wisdom.
Its their money people can buy anything they want. If a second generation never appears then the first wasn't worth having.
I know people that spent 10,000 on pioneer plasma tvs when they first came out. Hard to sayt that doesnt'sound foolish. Early technology adopters are nothing more then people that feel the need to be the first on their block. A educated consumer waits for the bugs to be worked out and the price to drop.
Its hard to argue paying less for a better product.
So everyone should hold back from buying that first gen product? Seems self defeating. Despite what you say, if people hold back because they all took your advice, then the product would disappear, but not because it wasn't good, but because people were given lousy advice.
So you're saying that no one should buy the Nexus One, the Droid, or any of the new products that we now see coming out, just because they ARE first gen products? That's really poor advice indeed. If no one buys them they will never BE improved. We will then have nothing to show for our superior intellect.
I didn't buy the first iPhone model. Not because it was a first gen product, but because it didn't have what I wanted, something I was very clear about from the beginning here.
But, unless the tablet looks to be a bomb, I will be buying it, though I'll wait a couple of weeks for the frenzy to die down, and to check if there are any early manufacturing problems as I almost always do.
"On Thursday, in a remarkable concession, Steven P. Jobs acknowledged that the company had abused its core customers? trust and extended a $100 store credit to the early iPhone buyers."
Did that say Apple abused its core customers?
?I just felt so used as a consumer,? he said. ?They hyped up the iPhone for six months and built up our expectations, and then they grabbed our extra $200 and ran.?
?A $100 credit could be perceived as adding insult to injury,? said Mr. Enderle, noting that store credits are seldom well received. ?It?s a way to make you go buy something else, and gives the company a chance to make more money.?
Oh please, Enderle is an idiot.
Apple should have waited a couple of months more before dropping prices so that people would have had little to complain about.
If the worst thing a company does is to drop prices, then I think that's pretty good.
If a version 2 does not appear all that says to me is:
They were able to fix the flaws with software updates (meaning the v1 is now the v2).
The product was not good enough to warrant fixing those flaws and releasing a version 2. Hooray, we've saved ourselves money by not being one of those suckers.
But YOU become the sucker.
Aren't you and he quick enough to understand the implications of what you've said? Its a self fulfilling prophecy.
If people don't buy the product just because it's a first gen model, how can you tell if it's good? You can't, because no one's bought it.
When it goes from the market, it's not because it was bad, but because it didn't sell, due to a misconceived concept of no one buying the first model.
Well I am trying to get him to explain how its logical to pay more for less but I can't seem to get him to reply. Instead he is just trying to reflect attention away from himself.
You know we make bad choices the only difference is he seems to take pride in it.
Your argument only makes sense if it could be shown that people KNEW, from the beginning, that Apple would lower the price down the road. As no one knew that, likely not even Apple, your argument is invalid.
So everyone should hold back from buying that first gen product? Seems self defeating. Despite what you say, if people hold back because they all took your advice, then the product would disappear, but not because it wasn't good, but because people were given lousy advice.
So you're saying that no one should buy the Nexus One, the Droid, or any of the new products that we now see coming out, just because they ARE first gen products? That's really poor advice indeed. If no one buys them they will never BE improved. We will then have nothing to show for our superior intellect.
I didn't buy the first iPhone model. Not because it was a first gen product, but because it didn't have what I wanted, something I was very clear about from the beginning here.
But, unless the tablet looks to be a bomb, I will be buying it, though I'll wait a couple of weeks for the frenzy to die down, and to check if there are any early manufacturing problems as I almost always do.
They can buy them but its hard to dispute an educated and smart consumer waits for the bugs to be worked out and the price to drop.
Consumers bought blu-ray at 1000.00, Plasma Tvs at 10,000. Does exactly seem smart.
Your point is the same as mine. Standing in line on the first day to pay top price for a product when you have no clue if its going to be a bomb simply makes no sense. People can be early adopters it doesn't me they are smart consumers.
Or, "Requires the willing suspension of disbelief!" said our beloved Secretary of State, then Senator, Hillary Clinton as she showed her usual support for the armed forces.
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Does Prince McLean have to attack Microsoft in every article he writes?
It's in Prince/Slash/Dan's contract.
Fair enough. Early adoption has a lot of risks. But like I was saying, we'll see whether they can improve. Apple did have some screw ups but overall satisfaction and improvement is undeniable.
I'd like to see how Google and HTC move along from this. The big risk is that HTC is not a *fantastic* brand, and Google is very new to the hardware game and may have not fully worked out how their involvement in hardware is going to play out.
That was the point I was attempting to make. When you look at the first iPhone compared to the 3Gs quite an improvement. Not to mention when you look back paying 599.00 for an 8GB iPhone seems funny in such a short time.
You're right HTC isn't that great, its going to take time for most of the new Android based phone to improve. The Nexus One does look like a bad phone but the best way to fail is to have poor customer service. Thats Apple biggest advantage even when there are problems their customer service is about the best. I once had a problem with my iMac my Apple Store simply took it and handed me a new one and the iMac was 8 months old.
If you stood in line for the first iPhone more then your money mangement skills needed improvement. Your medication needed adjustment. I'm sure that EDGE network speed at the time was great to work with.......
are you trying to fill the vacant TECHSTUD job ??
New owners of the Nexus One are complaining that they can't find answers to support issues from Google, and that they're being passed back and forth between it, HTC, and T-Mobile.
A report by PC World detailed several of the hundreds of complaints users have posed to Google's support forums.
Prior to the phone's launch, many pundits predicted that Google's positive brand familiarity with consumers would give it a strong position to market a smartphone. However, the new smartphone (or "superphone" as Google executives like to call it) is the company's first attempt at selling hardware to consumers.
Like Microsoft, Google is discovering that selling software (or in Google's case, giving away free software supported by ads) is a very different business than selling and supporting hardware.
Despite its global domination of the PC operating system and productivity suite markets, Microsoft has struggled to even break even with its Xbox franchise as support issues ballooned into a $1.4 billion write-off. The company's effort to push the Zune against the iPod fell completely flat, even with major retail partners lined up to promote it.
Google avoided the difficult business of retail in the launch of the Nexus One. The phone was designed and built by HTC but is marketed and sold by Google directly from its website.
However, customers buying the device are finding that Google's level of customer support is limited to email, which is only answered in a day or two. There's no direct phone support available at all.
That might be sufficient for users of free software, but it isn't being received well by customers who spent $540 on the new unlocked device. Users who went to T-Mobile or HTC reported getting a general runaround and bad support there as well, with some users complaining that they were told the phone doesn't support 3G at all.
One user in the report said he'd spent an hour and a half being transferred between HTC and T-Mobile after Google failed to help. "T-Mobile also said Google hasn't provided them with any support documents for the phone. Welcome to direct sales Google!" the user complained.
Another user facing similar issued wrote, "I guess I was under the wrong impression but I thought Google would handle the service on the phone."
Apple has faced some issues at each launch of new iPhone models, but had resources in place to handle those issues based on its decades-long experience in selling and supporting consumer electronics.
When launching the iPhone, Apple staunchly insisted that AT&T and other carrier partners allow it to handle much of the customer support itself, which helped to head off the problem of users being passed back and forth between the hardware vendor, the carrier, and the software developer.
Google? I will make it simple: Legit pack of thieves and freeloaders. They do not create content, but freeload off others' content and make money. Everything from newspapers to books.
What is worse, they had their CEO as a board member of Apple. He must have signed - or it was implied - that there should be no conflict of interest. Instead he gets the road map of Apple regarding the iPhone, iPod Touch, and who knows what else. How else could they come with competing products so fast???
I'm not trolling at all. The Nexus One situation is another perfect example how early adopters lose. When you feel the need to be the first on your block to have the new technology be prepared to take it hard and deep.
i name you mini TS
dude there is no google support at all...no one is home..
its not another perfect example of early ad...
IT is THE perfect all time example of not buying a product on its first cycle
except of course for any apple product
they are made with love and kindness and sweet things
i love apple
peace 9
They're actually trying to sell a phone with email support only? That beggars belief.
Or, "Requires the willing suspension of disbelief!" said our beloved Secretary of State, then Senator, Hillary Clinton as she showed her usual support for the armed forces.
http://thespisjournal.wordpress.com/...-of-disbelief/
It's like the comic books. Every hero needs a villain and vice versa. User MobileMe has emerged because of yourself. Who is the hero and how is the villain, I leave it to you all to work out.
I emerged cause besides Quadra I'm the only other Apple evangelist in these forums and I'm proud of that.
To give you some little insight about how much I love apple.
When I create a document in iWork, I NEVER SEND IT TO A NON MAC USER IN A WORD FORMAT, I will send it in PDF or RTF before my cursor even hovers over that sorry excuse for a word processor.
In the past when I went to a site that required IE or Firefox, I simply wrote the site off and decided to find other means to get work done.
If it's not owned by Apple, I don't want it near me in my Apple enviornment.
With the exception of Adobe (but if Aperture X, Gives a better alternative to Adobe, then I will be glad to kiss that POC adobe good bye)
I'm probably more die hard Apple then Quadra now that I think of it. Though he is a Apple Cultist... I put God/jesus first and then Steve Jobs/Apple
When I create a document in iWork, I NEVER SEND IT TO A NON MAC USER IN A WORD FORMAT, I will send it in PDF or RTF before my cursor even hovers over that sorry excuse for a word processor.
Did you know RTF was invented by Microsoft?
For what it's worth let's look at what was spent and what it replaced: iPhone $699. Replaced Palm Tungsten E $199+iPod 30GB $189+Nokia cellphone $150. Net difference:$161. Now factor in the fact that since I started using my iPhone for most of my mobility needs - I have effectively postponed for the last two years the purchase of a laptop, and that seems like it will be indefinite now. I simply don't need a laptop with all my 1st gen iPhone does for me. I won't even bother adding in the discount of the money I'm saving for not buying a laptop. So how does this all equate to me paying a higher price? Not only did I get to be among the first but my TCO and TRI goes down and up respectively each day I continue to own my "over-priced" eraly-adopted piece of kit.
Its their money people can buy anything they want. If a second generation never appears then the first wasn't worth having.
The best time to buy any new technology is next week. The same advice will apply next week.
All of which has nothing to do with Google having no experience with consumer electronics or customer support, and the predictable results of same.
Google? I will make it simple: Legit pack of thieves and freeloaders. They do not create content, but freeload off others' content and make money. Everything from newspapers to books.
The books, I get that. I don't understand what they're doing, I really don't think "ask forgiveness later" is good policy.
But they do provide services, it's not just free loading as you might impugn. The information you find on Google is going to be the same information that's available to other search engines.
On the newspapers, they're just being bombastic. If the newspapers don't want Google indexing their material, they only need to add a deny in robots.txt on their web servers, they respect that. Even if they didn't respect that, Google's spiders can be blocked/denied on an IP level. So when newspapers complain about Google, they really aren't being serious, it's just PR, and sad PR at that.
What is worse, they had their CEO as a board member of Apple. He must have signed - or it was implied - that there should be no conflict of interest. Instead he gets the road map of Apple regarding the iPhone, iPod Touch, and who knows what else. How else could they come with competing products so fast???
Maybe you missed the stories where he recuses himself of meetings when the iPhone comes up? And the stories where the Apple board was fine with his presence all along? They didn't force him away, he left on his own. If they thought he was a threat, they could have forced him to leave, which suggests to me that your paranoia in the case of the board seat is probably unfounded. That somehow you see something they didn't is unlikely.
Dude stop it! Just stop!.... CHROME IS A COPY OFF APPLE... Okay they use webkit (A standard Apple pushed) and made it mainstream for future browser implementations.... GOOGLE COPIES !! Face it man! Google is just a POC and they need to stick with search and get chrome off the OS X platform... Steve doesn't want it, Apple doesn't want it, I DON'T WANT IT, ...tell them to stay on Windows or whatever other platform that doesn't start with OS X
If you don't want it, you don't have to use it. How do you know that Steve doesn't want it, anyway? I highly doubt you know much about what Mr. Jobs wants, judging by your tacky rainbow signature, I doubt you're channeling him very well.
Apple could have made their own rendering engine and made it proprietary rather than collaborate publicly. Instead, they used an open source browser. I recall Google made a Javascript engine for their own browser, and other things that other browsers didn't do yet. Which is part of the idea of the open source ideal, building on existing work rather than reinvent the entire wheel every time.
Did you know RTF was invented by Microsoft?
Ouch.
If you want to be ahead of the curve you need to pay for this. These are not unwise consumers, they make a concious decision to pay more to have what they want. A lot of early adopters later review the products they bought, either for money or for their friends and family. Those who want the best deal will wait, and those who want the latest will have to pay.
No really they are unwise consumers. But thats okay they make things better for us.
Mmm... Is it always so?
What if early adoption of the device (or service) makes it possible for the consumer to save money or creates an opportunity that would not, otherwise, exist.
Would it really matter what you paid if you bought a device or service that got you a better job or saved your life?
I realize that we both are stretching the definition of consumer wisdom.
*
Its their money people can buy anything they want. If a second generation never appears then the first wasn't worth having.
I know people that spent 10,000 on pioneer plasma tvs when they first came out. Hard to sayt that doesnt'sound foolish. Early technology adopters are nothing more then people that feel the need to be the first on their block. A educated consumer waits for the bugs to be worked out and the price to drop.
Its hard to argue paying less for a better product.
So everyone should hold back from buying that first gen product? Seems self defeating. Despite what you say, if people hold back because they all took your advice, then the product would disappear, but not because it wasn't good, but because people were given lousy advice.
So you're saying that no one should buy the Nexus One, the Droid, or any of the new products that we now see coming out, just because they ARE first gen products? That's really poor advice indeed. If no one buys them they will never BE improved. We will then have nothing to show for our superior intellect.
I didn't buy the first iPhone model. Not because it was a first gen product, but because it didn't have what I wanted, something I was very clear about from the beginning here.
But, unless the tablet looks to be a bomb, I will be buying it, though I'll wait a couple of weeks for the frenzy to die down, and to check if there are any early manufacturing problems as I almost always do.
Okay guess I will have to highlight some of this.
"On Thursday, in a remarkable concession, Steven P. Jobs acknowledged that the company had abused its core customers? trust and extended a $100 store credit to the early iPhone buyers."
Did that say Apple abused its core customers?
?I just felt so used as a consumer,? he said. ?They hyped up the iPhone for six months and built up our expectations, and then they grabbed our extra $200 and ran.?
?A $100 credit could be perceived as adding insult to injury,? said Mr. Enderle, noting that store credits are seldom well received. ?It?s a way to make you go buy something else, and gives the company a chance to make more money.?
Oh please, Enderle is an idiot.
Apple should have waited a couple of months more before dropping prices so that people would have had little to complain about.
If the worst thing a company does is to drop prices, then I think that's pretty good.
Oh please, Enderle is an idiot.
Apple should have waited a couple of months more before dropping prices so that people would have had little to complain about.
If the worst thing a company does is to drop prices, then I think that's pretty good.
My point had nothing to do with Apple dropping prices. It had to do with early adopters.
If a version 2 does not appear all that says to me is:
But YOU become the sucker.
Aren't you and he quick enough to understand the implications of what you've said? Its a self fulfilling prophecy.
If people don't buy the product just because it's a first gen model, how can you tell if it's good? You can't, because no one's bought it.
When it goes from the market, it's not because it was bad, but because it didn't sell, due to a misconceived concept of no one buying the first model.
Ridiculous!
Well I am trying to get him to explain how its logical to pay more for less but I can't seem to get him to reply. Instead he is just trying to reflect attention away from himself.
You know we make bad choices the only difference is he seems to take pride in it.
Your argument only makes sense if it could be shown that people KNEW, from the beginning, that Apple would lower the price down the road. As no one knew that, likely not even Apple, your argument is invalid.
So everyone should hold back from buying that first gen product? Seems self defeating. Despite what you say, if people hold back because they all took your advice, then the product would disappear, but not because it wasn't good, but because people were given lousy advice.
So you're saying that no one should buy the Nexus One, the Droid, or any of the new products that we now see coming out, just because they ARE first gen products? That's really poor advice indeed. If no one buys them they will never BE improved. We will then have nothing to show for our superior intellect.
I didn't buy the first iPhone model. Not because it was a first gen product, but because it didn't have what I wanted, something I was very clear about from the beginning here.
But, unless the tablet looks to be a bomb, I will be buying it, though I'll wait a couple of weeks for the frenzy to die down, and to check if there are any early manufacturing problems as I almost always do.
They can buy them but its hard to dispute an educated and smart consumer waits for the bugs to be worked out and the price to drop.
Consumers bought blu-ray at 1000.00, Plasma Tvs at 10,000. Does exactly seem smart.
Your point is the same as mine. Standing in line on the first day to pay top price for a product when you have no clue if its going to be a bomb simply makes no sense. People can be early adopters it doesn't me they are smart consumers.
Or, "Requires the willing suspension of disbelief!" said our beloved Secretary of State, then Senator, Hillary Clinton as she showed her usual support for the armed forces.
http://thespisjournal.wordpress.com/...-of-disbelief/
Keep the politics out of it, or I will keep you out of it.