Intel promotion allegedly reveals Core i5-based MacBook Pro

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  • Reply 81 of 108
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    How about FW3200?



    If the new iPhone still doesn?t allow for FW syncing then i couldn?t care less about FW. Give me USB3.0 instead and let my G4 iPhone charge and sync faster.
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  • Reply 82 of 108
    justflybobjustflybob Posts: 1,337member
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    Originally Posted by Dorotea View Post


    What a nice problem. I don't know anyone who has a 30" Cinema Display.



    Sorry if that came across as arrogant. I have them as my far sightedness is quite severe. Too many bumps on the noggin (motorcycles, helicopters, etc.) and cataracts in both eyes at the tender age of fifty-something. They let me use lower resolutions to enlarge items and still have the real estate I need to be effective. At the time I bought them I did not like the fact that the largest "current" model was the newer 24" display. IMHO it did not match up well to the MBP 17" resolutions. Yes, it may have worked, but it was my personal choice, as most choices are. Also, talk at that time was that Apple would refresh the entire display lineup "any day now". So I held off until March '09, when it became clear to me that I was waiting for vaporware. My hope for everyone else is that the screen size of the new 27" iMac will also be the format for the next gen standalone displays. 27" should do it for most folks. I got the 30" variety as that was the largest I could find that fit my situation. Your mileage may vary.



    For me, the reason for two is for a consistent experience at work or home. If I lower the bar via resolution on my MBP 17, then I don't have enough real estate to quickly view large amounts of data, or code, depending on what mischief I am up to at that moment in time. It's the extremes of small or large type, etc. that cause me the most eye strain and headaches. That, and reading TechDud's posts.



    Bottom line is there seems to be a problem for folks like me who would love to upgrade, but don't due to the added hassles caused by the Mini DisplayPort not communicating well with 30" Cinema Displays. Again, if anyone knows of, or has even heard of, a fix or solution, then I would love to hear about it.
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  • Reply 83 of 108
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacTripper View Post


    Get real, very few people are going to tote around a RAID 0 set of SSD's with their notebook.



    Also even if Apple put something like that in their laptops, there is a hardware risk with RAID 0, one SSD goes down you lose all data.



    SDXC with up to 2TB and the higher speed of current hard drives would make a great alternate boot method, Time Machine drive or bootable clone in MacBook Pro's.



    I do suspect Apple will have duo, SSD and hard drive options in the new MacBook Pro's.



    I never understand the RAID 0 argument. If you have one drive and it fails, you lose the data. If you have RAID 0, it's faster, and if it goes awry you lose your data. No surprises, RAID 0 is logically one disk. Backup your data, 'nuff said.
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  • Reply 84 of 108
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I haven't had a single problem with any of the 30 or so BR movies I've purchased for my PS3, which has had no problem playing them. They look great, and I would never go back to DVD.



    I just bought the new Pioneer BR205 internal for my Mac Pro ($209.95 at Newegg, no tax, no shipping vs $259.95 at the usually overpriced OWC, another thing on that later). That also works great, though, of course, I can't watch BR movies through my Mac (yet!).



    About OWC. While I've bought from them over the years, I find them to be overpriced on a lot of items.



    This drive, for example, is $249.95 in a version for Mac or PC. What makes it so I don't know. But for the Mac Pro, they add another $10.



    Now, I know that for the PC, you get three programs. One to write BR disks. One to play them, and I forget what the third is for. Thse are given away with just about every BR burner for PC's. It's the basic package.



    So, ok, you figure that OWC would give an LE version of Toast with the "Mac Pro Ready" version for $10 more, right?



    Nope! No Mac software. What do they say you get? Cables to install this in a Mac Pro. Well... If you have a Mac Pro, yo know that you don't NEED any cables! The cable is already in the machine for the second optical (or other) drive.



    I chose instead to save the $50 and buy from my favorite vendor, Newegg. Oh, yeah, OWC also charges shipping.



    So I got the OEM version for the $209.95, which included the PC software again.



    I have no idea what OWC thinks it's doing here. What would we do with those cables (if indeed they include them)? And as others do include Toast LE at times, why not them?



    Also a spindle of 15 BR disks cost $35. Prices are coming down, and are comparable to dual layer DVD disks when one counts how many DVD's they would need (actually, it's MORE expensive using the DL DVD's for the full 25 GB of data, not to speak of the hassle).



    Not to stop you from complaining, but maybe it's better suited as customer feedback to the company you are at odds with? On the off chance they are looking for complaints here on AI, maybe they can fix your issue. Perhaps OWC could have price matched it for you?



    I don't advocate one way or the other, but I do agree with you that they are high on a lot of items. When I had issues with Newegg being out of the ballpark on some items, I wrote them. They replied, too (defending their pricing .) I get OWC's e-mail letters, but generally I find them overpriced as well. Once in a while, they do have a decent deal though.
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  • Reply 85 of 108
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I think the straw man started when you suggested that Apple should because Dell does.



    Perhaps we should ask: Why Apple choose to include an SD card reader so long after it became standard in other machines? Why they swapped the EC/34 in the 15? MBP for an SD Card slot? Why they made such a fuss to add it to the 13? MBP by removing the mic, putting the Kensington lock on the other side and pushing all the ports to the back in order to add it? You look at the 13? MBP teardown and there isn?t any room for it to go completely inside that machine. Do people really walk around with SD cards in their machine? What?s the point of that? I?ve never walked around with a CD or DVD in my notebook and I unplug USB cables before putting them into my bag.



    Frankly, I couldn?t care less how deep the card goes, just curious as to the reason for the odd addition and why it?s now such an important feature that has to go in all the way or risk losing sales.



    Well I meant that Apple could have if they so desired, and maybe should have. I should clarify that with the mac book 13" aluminum unibody they could have without having to do any re-arranging. Been inside mine (non sexual) and can say there is room.

    IMHO I don't see a loss of sales but I can say that on my other computers I have left the cards in because I could. Thats an advantage of SSD and no moving parts. Some people like the convince of leaving them in.
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  • Reply 86 of 108
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post


    Well I meant that Apple could have if they so desired, and maybe should have. I should clarify that with the mac book 13" aluminum unibody they could have without having to do any re-arranging. Been inside mine (non sexual) and can say there is room.

    IMHO I don't see a loss of sales but I can say that on my other computers I have left the cards in because I could. Thats an advantage of SSD and no moving parts. Some people like the convince of leaving them in.



    Where?
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  • Reply 87 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
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    Originally Posted by TBell View Post


    I agree. This is what Steve refers to when he says Blue Ray is nothing but a bag of hurt. Consumers get very little in terms of added utility, but pay a lot in terms of actual cost and DRM related baggage. As soon as Apple incorporates Blue Ray, the OS will take a significant performance hit due to the system wide DRM that Blue Ray licensees are required to implement. No thanks.



    I'm amazed at how little you guys know about this.





    Anyone who has BR knows that it is much better than uprezed DVD's. I won't go back to DVD. But you need a video system that can reproduce the higher quality, and you have to sit in the proper position. Too small a screen with you sitting too far back is like taking your stereo speakers and putting them right next to each other while listening from 15 feet away, then complaining that stereo sounds just like mono.



    Well, duh!



    That's what many people do with hi def. Too small a Tv watched from too far away, and then they say they can't see the difference.



    Well, duh!



    As far as that "bag of hurt" goes, that's now well into the past.



    As for DRM, it will only affect BR disks, not your entire system. You've got DRM throughout your machine now, you do realize that don't you?



    Mostly, it comes from Apple. The rest comes from programs you bought. It sits there quietly until the item in question is accessed, then it checks that.



    Please keep up to date.
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  • Reply 88 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I think the straw man started when you suggested that Apple should because Dell does.



    Perhaps we should ask: Why Apple choose to include an SD card reader so long after it became standard in other machines? Why they swapped the EC/34 in the 15? MBP for an SD Card slot? Why they made such a fuss to add it to the 13? MBP by removing the mic, putting the Kensington lock on the other side and pushing all the ports to the back in order to add it? You look at the 13? MBP teardown and there isn?t any room for it to go completely inside that machine. Do people really walk around with SD cards in their machine? What?s the point of that? I?ve never walked around with a CD or DVD in my notebook and I unplug USB cables before putting them into my bag.



    Frankly, I couldn?t care less how deep the card goes, just curious as to the reason for the odd addition and why it?s now such an important feature that has to go in all the way or risk losing sales.



    A few people think it's brilliant to use an SD card as a startup drive, thinking that the vastly cheaper SD card will work just fine.



    Yeah, until it pops out of the machine during use, or fails because it's made from cheap chips with no real controller to block out bad memory.
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  • Reply 89 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    How about FW3200?



    Forget it.
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  • Reply 90 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technohermit View Post


    I never understand the RAID 0 argument. If you have one drive and it fails, you lose the data. If you have RAID 0, it's faster, and if it goes awry you lose your data. No surprises, RAID 0 is logically one disk. Backup your data, 'nuff said.



    It's really only intended for immediate needs such as video editing and recording. To use it as a "normal" drive is nuts.
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  • Reply 91 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technohermit View Post


    Not to stop you from complaining, but maybe it's better suited as customer feedback to the company you are at odds with? On the off chance they are looking for complaints here on AI, maybe they can fix your issue. Perhaps OWC could have price matched it for you?



    I don't advocate one way or the other, but I do agree with you that they are high on a lot of items. When I had issues with Newegg being out of the ballpark on some items, I wrote them. They replied, too (defending their pricing .) I get OWC's e-mail letters, but generally I find them overpriced as well. Once in a while, they do have a decent deal though.



    Believe me, I HAVE spoken to them, numerous times about a number of things.



    They are what they are. It takes a village to get companies to change their policies.
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  • Reply 92 of 108
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    A few people think it's brilliant to use an SD card as a startup drive, thinking that the vastly cheaper SD card will work just fine.



    Yeah, until it pops out of the machine during use, or fails because it's made from cheap chips with no real controller to block out bad memory.



    I don?t see how anyone would want that for a boot drive.



    You can add a controllers to the chips. They are quite versatile.
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  • Reply 93 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I don?t see how anyone would want that for a boot drive.



    You can add a controllers to the chips. They are quite versatile.



    It's on several websites. Instructions included. Cheap flash chips are still cheap flash chips.
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  • Reply 94 of 108
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jb510 View Post


    "The Arrandale mobile processors employ a 32nm Westmere core paired with a 45nm chipset. The new 35nm chips offer improved speed"



    anyone want to fix that?



    [blows dust off former Kyocera days]



    It's been 2 decades since I messed with chips and chipsets, but I was wondering if the author was confused between the size of the "core" vs the size of the "package", the actual form factor that houses and protects the core?



    Back then we sure as heck weren't speaking in nanometers.



    [returns dust to former Kyocera days]
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  • Reply 95 of 108
    foljsfoljs Posts: 390member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by technohermit View Post


    I never understand the RAID 0 argument. If you have one drive and it fails, you lose the data. If you have RAID 0, it's faster, and if it goes awry you lose your data. No surprises, RAID 0 is logically one disk.



    With TWICE (or more, depending on disk count) the failure rate of a physical one disk.



    Maybe, that's the RAID0 argument you could never understand.
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  • Reply 96 of 108
    foljsfoljs Posts: 390member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I'm amazed at how little you guys know about this.





    Anyone who has BR knows that it is much better than uprezed DVD's. I won't go back to DVD. But you need a video system that can reproduce the higher quality, and you have to sit in the proper position. Too small a screen with you sitting too far back is like taking your stereo speakers and putting them right next to each other while listening from 15 feet away, then complaining that stereo sounds just like mono.



    Well, duh!



    That's what many people do with hi def. Too small a Tv watched from too far away, and then they say they can't see the difference.



    Well, duh!



    As far as that "bag of hurt" goes, that's now well into the past.



    As for DRM, it will only affect BR disks, not your entire system. You've got DRM throughout your machine now, you do realize that don't you?



    Mostly, it comes from Apple. The rest comes from programs you bought. It sits there quietly until the item in question is accessed, then it checks that.



    Please keep up to date.



    So, basically you suggest I stand motionless in a specific position, with the appropriate and expensive equipment in order to watch higher resolution I don't really care about.



    What do I think about this?



    Well, duh!
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  • Reply 97 of 108
    foljsfoljs Posts: 390member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    A few people think it's brilliant to use an SD card as a startup drive, thinking that the vastly cheaper SD card will work just fine.



    Yeah, until it pops out of the machine during use



    Do inanimate objects regularly move on you?
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  • Reply 98 of 108
    I receive the RetailEdge updates here in the U.S. Just got my email yesterday and it doesn't mention anything to this matter. I can post the email if necessary. I realize most of these promotions aren't coming from the US. Just seems weird that it gets leaked from the other sites.
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  • Reply 99 of 108
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    A few people think it's brilliant to use an SD card as a startup drive, thinking that the vastly cheaper SD card will work just fine.



    Yeah, until it pops out of the machine during use, or fails because it's made from cheap chips with no real controller to block out bad memory.



    Actually, SD cards do incorporate a controller.
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  • Reply 100 of 108
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by someone00 View Post


    Actually, SD cards do incorporate a controller.



    Not what I'm talking about. those are very simple and basic.
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