Apple's ipad is the best way to experience the web,
Not without flash, its not.
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email, photos and videos.
Not with the tiny 4:3 screen its not. Letterboxed videos will be tiny.
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The large, high-resolution screen makes iPad perfect for watching any kind of video: from HD movies and TV shows, to podcasts and music videos.
The screen is neither large nor hi-res. Are you really serious?
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With the iPod app, all your music is literally at your fingertips.
Sorry. With the iPod app, huge amounts of my library need to be transcoded. No support for .flac or .ogg or many other standard formats. None of this stuff is at my fingertips.
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You can browse by album, song, artist, or genre, with a simple flick. To play a song, just tap it, and the now playing screen will show the album art at full size
You just described every single media player software package now available. But most of them will support common formats, unlike the iPod app.
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The iBooks app is a great, new way to read and buy books.
Yeah? Now I'm excited. How does it differ from the slew of ebook apps already available?
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1 Just download the app for free from the App Store, and you?ll be able to buy everything from classics to bestsellers from the built-in iBookstore.
This is similar to every other already existing ebook app, no?
2. No Flash (which DOES NOT make it a proper browsing device today and probably in the next years while Flash still dominates the market for truly interactive websites; in fact most websites).
3. No proper file system (this will make everything difficult, including managing mail attachments, reading ebooks and videos obtained other than through the Apple-approved stores ...).
4. No Camera(s).
5. No proper SIM/phone capability.
6. Yes it has Maps. But does it have GPS? I guess NO.
I am not talking about desireable but non-vital things here (read lack of SD or USB slots, no OLED, screen resolution circa that of a 2005 plasma screen, no tethering, no iLife, etc.).
The only TWO pluses for me are:
1. A rather reasonable price.
2. Unlocked 3G.
Conclusion: I will wait for version 2.0
Who says this thing won't have flash? it wasn't available during the keynote - there's a few months for adobe to tweak the full plug in to work.
It does have GPS - don't guess, maybe go along to the apple web site and read the tech cpecs.
There is a USB and SD card attachment.
The screen resolution is that of a standard 15" screen, compressed onto a 9.7" size - that's a damn good display.
No proper file system? What are you talking about. This thing will view any important file that is emailed to you:
"Viewable document types: .jpg, .tiff, .gif (images); .doc and .docx (Microsoft Word); .htm and .html (web pages); .key (Keynote); .numbers (Numbers); .pages (Pages); .pdf (Preview and Adobe Acrobat); .ppt and .pptx (Microsoft PowerPoint); .txt (text); .rtf (rich text format); .vcf (contact information); .xls and .xlsx (Microsoft Excel)"
What other essentials are missing from that list?
its not a laptop, it's not a personal computer replacement.
Why don't people get this.
re. the camera - yes, it's a shame that the first version doesn't have one - but how would you hold this thing without your arms aching at an angle that isn't looking up your nose.
No, it's not as good as a macbook pro. It's not meant to be a laptop.
Your comment is full of assumptions based on rumor, which is clearly rebuked via a quick look at the official apple page for this device.
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"5. No proper SIM/phone capability."
Yes, because it's not a phone. My hammer can't make my morning coffee. Doesn't make it a bad hammer.
Overall, after sleeping on it. I really like this device. However, since i own an iphone and have a PC, i'm not sure if i'd have a use for it, unless i got it with 3G and that's a deal breaker, since i'm not going to pay for an additional plan. So, either i not get it and live how i am, happily; or i get it and drop my iPhone plan.
Here is my biggest disappointment of the device, lack of home networking. To be more specific, if i could stream my iTunes and sync wirelessly, just like the Apple TV, that would be excellent! Two, if i could print wirelessly to my printer from the iPad, that would be brilliant! I'm not sure why they decided not to do these functions, considering the fact that we heard a while back that the iPad was a family device. If i'm in the kitchen and i want to print out a recipe for a meal, why can't i just print it from the iPad? Or if i'm purchasing online tickets in the living room and want to print the e-ticket before i head to the airport? Seems like a very obvious next step. Third the dock in landscape mode. Why not? if i want to watch a movie but don't want to hold the iPad in my lap or in my hands, i'd have to prop it up on somthing on the coffee table.
These are almost deal-breakers for me. I just don't understand why this device can't do what i've described above? Seems like the in-between that SJ talks about needs some additional measures and apps. I'm really suprised also that i seem to be the only one that has noticed these obvious oversights...anyone else think this way???
I'm just ... really not impressed. It's a big iPod Touch. OK ...
It doesn't have the dual video camera's for video conferencing; indeed it doesn't even have a camera. It's crippled to the AppStore (which I can put up with on an iPhone class device but not a netbook class item). It doesn't have a stylus or text recognition so I'm stuck with the on-screen keyboard or just bring another keyboard with (at which point - why wouldn't I bring the MBP?). And it doesn't support multiple applications at a time. So it's a glorified digital picture frame. Great.
It may serve as a replacement for an iPod Touch but it's not a replacement for a small laptop or an iPhone. I guess if you didn't talk to anyone it could fill in for an iPhone.
Well, for a writer on the road, the iPad could be the object I have always wanted. It is fast enough, has enough software and mobile enough to work on the road. And if needed, the external keyboard is a great addition.
I do not want a laptop; I do not want a netbook. I want a compact screen with editing capabilities. Lookie! iPad!
Here is my biggest disappointment of the device, lack of home networking. To be more specific, if i could stream my iTunes and sync wirelessly, just like the Apple TV, that would be excellent! Two, if i could print wirelessly to my printer from the iPad, that would be brilliant! I'm not sure why they decided not to do these functions, considering the fact that we heard a while back that the iPad was a family device. If i'm in the kitchen and i want to print out a recipe for a meal, why can't i just print it from the iPad? Or if i'm purchasing online tickets in the living room and want to print the e-ticket before i head to the airport? Seems like a very obvious next step. Third the dock in landscape mode. Why not? if i want to watch a movie but don't want to hold the iPad in my lap or in my hands, i'd have to prop it up on somthing on the coffee table.
Printing things is so last decade. Need a recipe? Kick out that cookbook and prop up your iPad on the kitchen counter (though if you're like me, you'll get it all grubby from flipping through it while chopping onions). Need you e-ticket? These days you unfortunately still need a piece of paper for TSA to write some crap on to pass through security. You can print these out using the airport's printer at their self checkins using your confirmation number, i.e. no need to print anything at home, bring your iPad with you and look up the number (though if you had an iPhone I probably would have used it instead as it's easier to pull out).
It looks useful FOR YOU, but for the rest of us...
Actually, I was not proselytizing like many here, I was simply stating an agreement with something someone said about their boss liking it (and how they might use it), and then went on to explain how I'll be using it. So, yeah "FOR ME" is right. Never said anyone else wanted or needed to buy it. Really, not sure what point you're making. Perhaps you didn't read the whole set of missives.
The question of whether or not I "have to get one" is irrelevant.
I expected a game-changing, fully formed device. I was very disappointed to learn that it was nothing but an iTouch on steroids.
Yes, but now that you know it is an iPod Touch on steroids I am amazed you can't see how brilliant that is. How brilliant that will fit into millions of people's lives and households. How brilliantly it integrates into the Apple eco system and paves new ways. You have established what it is not and what it does not do. Look at what it is and what it does. And then you just may become happily surprised when clever app developers create added functionality.
Sorry Apple, I still don't get what this thing is good for. Now that you've release the iPod Touch/iPhone, the iPad doesn't do enough to justify its size (much less its price). I think its destined to be the coffee-table book of computers: http://agcrazylegs.blogspot.com/2010...computers.html
It might be good FOR YOU, but for the rest of us, the limitations make it less useful than it should have been.
But there will soon be lots of Android and Win7 tablets for the rest of us, so I'm not heartbroken. Just disappointed.
OK, you just gave yourself away. Why disappointed? Your Android and Win7 tablets will soon be here. Instead of complaining here go to those forums and enthuse about what is to come.
Actually, I was not proselytizing like many here, I was simply stating an agreement with something someone said about their boss liking it (and how they might use it), and then went on to explain how I'll be using it. So, yeah "FOR ME" is right. Never said anyone else wanted or needed to buy it. Really, not sure what point you're making. Perhaps you didn't read the whole set of missives.
I'm using irony and humor to make my point. Sorry that you were the victim. I like to lampoon.
Did everybody transition to "the paperless office" ten years ago? I think I missed that.
Apple doesn't develop products for 10 years ago, it's thinking about things that'll be relevant 10 years from now. Not including printing functions would be an indicator that it doesn't consider print or even physical media for that matter to be important. (iPod and digital music, iPad with digital ebooks...). I'd imagine the emphasis for the iWork package on the iPad will be to share documents electronically (who knows if they'll even include a print function in it).
Granted many other manufacturers have envisioned these technologies before Apple, but unlike those other manufacturers, Apple has the formula to making it accessible in the hands of the consumer, likely emphasizing the user experience instead of the technology itself.
My wife had, for the first time, inquired about a laptop about a month ago. She wanted to be able to check email and web surf at times, but not be tied to her computer desk. I told her I could show her how to do that with an iPod Touch and she poo-pooed it as "too small". When she saw the iPad yesterday her initial review was "SWEET! It's adorable!" The iPad, with it's optional dock/keyboard, could be all the computer that's needed for most consumers. Email, web, photos, music, basic word processing... all of the things she normally does now on her Mac Mini with the added benefit of being able to take it with you. I like it.
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Apple's ipad is the best way to experience the web,
Not without flash, its not.
email, photos and videos.
Not with the tiny 4:3 screen its not. Letterboxed videos will be tiny.
The large, high-resolution screen makes iPad perfect for watching any kind of video: from HD movies and TV shows, to podcasts and music videos.
The screen is neither large nor hi-res. Are you really serious?
With the iPod app, all your music is literally at your fingertips.
Sorry. With the iPod app, huge amounts of my library need to be transcoded. No support for .flac or .ogg or many other standard formats. None of this stuff is at my fingertips.
You can browse by album, song, artist, or genre, with a simple flick. To play a song, just tap it, and the now playing screen will show the album art at full size
You just described every single media player software package now available. But most of them will support common formats, unlike the iPod app.
The iBooks app is a great, new way to read and buy books.
Yeah? Now I'm excited. How does it differ from the slew of ebook apps already available?
1 Just download the app for free from the App Store, and you?ll be able to buy everything from classics to bestsellers from the built-in iBookstore.
This is similar to every other already existing ebook app, no?
One of the things thats most exciting for me, is to see where this is going to go.
One of the things thats most disappointing for me, is to see where this thing is right now.
My two cents on iPad:
1. No multi-tasking.
2. No Flash (which DOES NOT make it a proper browsing device today and probably in the next years while Flash still dominates the market for truly interactive websites; in fact most websites).
3. No proper file system (this will make everything difficult, including managing mail attachments, reading ebooks and videos obtained other than through the Apple-approved stores ...).
4. No Camera(s).
5. No proper SIM/phone capability.
6. Yes it has Maps. But does it have GPS? I guess NO.
I am not talking about desireable but non-vital things here (read lack of SD or USB slots, no OLED, screen resolution circa that of a 2005 plasma screen, no tethering, no iLife, etc.).
The only TWO pluses for me are:
1. A rather reasonable price.
2. Unlocked 3G.
Conclusion: I will wait for version 2.0
Who says this thing won't have flash? it wasn't available during the keynote - there's a few months for adobe to tweak the full plug in to work.
It does have GPS - don't guess, maybe go along to the apple web site and read the tech cpecs.
There is a USB and SD card attachment.
The screen resolution is that of a standard 15" screen, compressed onto a 9.7" size - that's a damn good display.
No proper file system? What are you talking about. This thing will view any important file that is emailed to you:
"Viewable document types: .jpg, .tiff, .gif (images); .doc and .docx (Microsoft Word); .htm and .html (web pages); .key (Keynote); .numbers (Numbers); .pages (Pages); .pdf (Preview and Adobe Acrobat); .ppt and .pptx (Microsoft PowerPoint); .txt (text); .rtf (rich text format); .vcf (contact information); .xls and .xlsx (Microsoft Excel)"
What other essentials are missing from that list?
its not a laptop, it's not a personal computer replacement.
Why don't people get this.
re. the camera - yes, it's a shame that the first version doesn't have one - but how would you hold this thing without your arms aching at an angle that isn't looking up your nose.
No, it's not as good as a macbook pro. It's not meant to be a laptop.
Your comment is full of assumptions based on rumor, which is clearly rebuked via a quick look at the official apple page for this device.
EDIT:
"5. No proper SIM/phone capability."
Yes, because it's not a phone. My hammer can't make my morning coffee. Doesn't make it a bad hammer.
Here is my biggest disappointment of the device, lack of home networking. To be more specific, if i could stream my iTunes and sync wirelessly, just like the Apple TV, that would be excellent! Two, if i could print wirelessly to my printer from the iPad, that would be brilliant! I'm not sure why they decided not to do these functions, considering the fact that we heard a while back that the iPad was a family device. If i'm in the kitchen and i want to print out a recipe for a meal, why can't i just print it from the iPad? Or if i'm purchasing online tickets in the living room and want to print the e-ticket before i head to the airport? Seems like a very obvious next step. Third the dock in landscape mode. Why not? if i want to watch a movie but don't want to hold the iPad in my lap or in my hands, i'd have to prop it up on somthing on the coffee table.
These are almost deal-breakers for me. I just don't understand why this device can't do what i've described above? Seems like the in-between that SJ talks about needs some additional measures and apps. I'm really suprised also that i seem to be the only one that has noticed these obvious oversights...anyone else think this way???
Soundslike you have abnormal hemorrhaging.
What constitutes improved?
It doesn't have the dual video camera's for video conferencing; indeed it doesn't even have a camera. It's crippled to the AppStore (which I can put up with on an iPhone class device but not a netbook class item). It doesn't have a stylus or text recognition so I'm stuck with the on-screen keyboard or just bring another keyboard with (at which point - why wouldn't I bring the MBP?). And it doesn't support multiple applications at a time. So it's a glorified digital picture frame. Great.
It may serve as a replacement for an iPod Touch but it's not a replacement for a small laptop or an iPhone. I guess if you didn't talk to anyone it could fill in for an iPhone.
I do not want a laptop; I do not want a netbook. I want a compact screen with editing capabilities. Lookie! iPad!
Here is my biggest disappointment of the device, lack of home networking. To be more specific, if i could stream my iTunes and sync wirelessly, just like the Apple TV, that would be excellent! Two, if i could print wirelessly to my printer from the iPad, that would be brilliant! I'm not sure why they decided not to do these functions, considering the fact that we heard a while back that the iPad was a family device. If i'm in the kitchen and i want to print out a recipe for a meal, why can't i just print it from the iPad? Or if i'm purchasing online tickets in the living room and want to print the e-ticket before i head to the airport? Seems like a very obvious next step. Third the dock in landscape mode. Why not? if i want to watch a movie but don't want to hold the iPad in my lap or in my hands, i'd have to prop it up on somthing on the coffee table.
Printing things is so last decade. Need a recipe? Kick out that cookbook and prop up your iPad on the kitchen counter (though if you're like me, you'll get it all grubby from flipping through it while chopping onions). Need you e-ticket? These days you unfortunately still need a piece of paper for TSA to write some crap on to pass through security. You can print these out using the airport's printer at their self checkins using your confirmation number, i.e. no need to print anything at home, bring your iPad with you and look up the number (though if you had an iPhone I probably would have used it instead as it's easier to pull out).
It looks useful FOR YOU, but for the rest of us...
Actually, I was not proselytizing like many here, I was simply stating an agreement with something someone said about their boss liking it (and how they might use it), and then went on to explain how I'll be using it. So, yeah "FOR ME" is right. Never said anyone else wanted or needed to buy it. Really, not sure what point you're making. Perhaps you didn't read the whole set of missives.
Well lucky for you you don't have to get one! My god, I have never heard such incessant whining! What on earth did you expect?
The question of whether or not I "have to get one" is irrelevant.
I expected a game-changing, fully formed device. I was very disappointed to learn that it was nothing but an iTouch on steroids.
No, but I guess we will find out.
Look who's here everyone, Teckstud! Welcome back!
I was just watching your volcano lair while you were away. Honestly.
You never bothered me once... just was mistaken for you for a bit there.
Now go run and play while I go edit my CP....
I don't believe that is the real tekstud of yestertime. The verbage is all wrong and not quite enough venom.
I do not want a laptop; I do not want a netbook. I want a compact screen with editing capabilities. Lookie! iPad!
It might be good FOR YOU, but for the rest of us, the limitations make it less useful than it should have been.
But there will soon be lots of Android and Win7 tablets for the rest of us, so I'm not heartbroken. Just disappointed.
The question of whether or not I "have to get one" is irrelevant.
I expected a game-changing, fully formed device. I was very disappointed to learn that it was nothing but an iTouch on steroids.
Yes, but now that you know it is an iPod Touch on steroids I am amazed you can't see how brilliant that is. How brilliant that will fit into millions of people's lives and households. How brilliantly it integrates into the Apple eco system and paves new ways. You have established what it is not and what it does not do. Look at what it is and what it does. And then you just may become happily surprised when clever app developers create added functionality.
Printing things is so last decade.
Did everybody transition to "the paperless office" ten years ago? I think I missed that.
The thing can neither multitask nor print. These are defects, not features.
It might be good FOR YOU, but for the rest of us, the limitations make it less useful than it should have been.
But there will soon be lots of Android and Win7 tablets for the rest of us, so I'm not heartbroken. Just disappointed.
OK, you just gave yourself away. Why disappointed? Your Android and Win7 tablets will soon be here. Instead of complaining here go to those forums and enthuse about what is to come.
Actually, I was not proselytizing like many here, I was simply stating an agreement with something someone said about their boss liking it (and how they might use it), and then went on to explain how I'll be using it. So, yeah "FOR ME" is right. Never said anyone else wanted or needed to buy it. Really, not sure what point you're making. Perhaps you didn't read the whole set of missives.
I'm using irony and humor to make my point. Sorry that you were the victim. I like to lampoon.
Before ranting about Steve Job's record why don't you tell us what have you done with your life other than shitting and farting.
good one
Did everybody transition to "the paperless office" ten years ago? I think I missed that.
Apple doesn't develop products for 10 years ago, it's thinking about things that'll be relevant 10 years from now. Not including printing functions would be an indicator that it doesn't consider print or even physical media for that matter to be important. (iPod and digital music, iPad with digital ebooks...). I'd imagine the emphasis for the iWork package on the iPad will be to share documents electronically (who knows if they'll even include a print function in it).
Granted many other manufacturers have envisioned these technologies before Apple, but unlike those other manufacturers, Apple has the formula to making it accessible in the hands of the consumer, likely emphasizing the user experience instead of the technology itself.
Tim