when apple upgrades the consumer models to i Core CPUs. my guess at WWDC
Unlikely. Apple has never announced iMacs nor MacBooks in June or July.
The only consumer model is has ever announced in either month was the original debut of the Mac mini. Apple is far more likely to announce new consumer models in August (they have done this plenty of times), to coincide with back-to-school/end-of-year.
Apple has more frequently announced pro models in the WWDC timeframe, particularly MacBook Pros.
It would be nice to see that offered in the Xserve line too. Does anyone use Xserve servers anymore?
OS X may be cheaper than Windows, but XServe's don't scale up very well and you'll end up spending more money on more servers in the end. apple should just license it out so you can install it on HP or Dell servers
Unlikely. Apple has never announced iMacs nor MacBooks in June or July.
The only consumer model is has ever announced in either month was the original debut of the Mac mini. Apple is far more likely to announce new consumer models in August (they have done this plenty of times), to coincide with back-to-school/end-of-year.
Apple has more frequently announced pro models in the WWDC timeframe, particularly MacBook Pros.
C2D is going away and with Dell/HP dropping prices on i Core systems it's making it very hard to buy Apple.
The Mac Pro with all these cores is really only good for programs that have such large static files to render that it can split the job amongst all the cores. Not many of Apple's "pro" apps can take advantage of Grand Central yet and they still they need very large files.
For regular personal use all these cores are extreme overkill, like Al Gores machine with 3 - 30" monitors.
You might use two cores all the time, rarely 4 or more constantly. Despite what some think, most people still do one major thing at a time and splitting up a small processing job amongst more cores takes longer than if it was done all on the first.
as a semi-pro user I find it almost impossible to max out the CPUs on my quad-core Mac Pro. No single program I use comes close to using all that CPU but what I find invaluable is my ability to do multiple CPU intensive tasks simultaneouly.
I can record DVD resolution video, encode another video into DVD format, convert a video to an MP3 audio file for a podcast, and burn 2 DVDs simultaneously without skipping a beat.
Unlikely. Apple has never announced iMacs nor MacBooks in June or July.
The only consumer model is has ever announced in either month was the original debut of the Mac mini. Apple is far more likely to announce new consumer models in August (they have done this plenty of times), to coincide with back-to-school/end-of-year.
Apple has more frequently announced pro models in the WWDC timeframe, particularly MacBook Pros.
you sure about that? the last macbook pro revision was june last year, which included the new 13MBP.
as a semi-pro user I find it almost impossible to max out the CPUs on my quad-core Mac Pro. No single program I use comes close to using all that CPU but what I find invaluable is my ability to do multiple CPU intensive tasks simultaneously (sic).
I can record DVD resolution video, encode another video into DVD format, convert a video to an MP3 audio file for a podcast, and burn 2 DVDs simultaneously without skipping a beat.
Well if you get a 12 core Mac Pro, you'll have to work 3x or more harder to take advantage of all those cores.
You could take multitasking to whole new level. Berserkerville then Basketville.
2) there's not high demand, so the refurbs sit around
3) they sell a lot of them so, therefore a lot of refurbs.
I'm guessing #2, with maybe a little of #1 due to their form factor. Looking on Craigslist, you'll see really good deals for MBAs, but not good deals for MBs (not even worth getting used because of the high resale value).
That is one of the most inane things I have heard.
I was actually being facetious, but Apple has always struck as being as much about idealogy as anything, and their neglect of their desktop lines has become a self fulfilling prophecy about the decline of the desktop.
I agree the desktop is declining in importance, now that there are quad core mobile CPUs, 500 GB 2.5" HDs, and powerful laptop graphics cards. But there is still value in desktops, especially as their components offer greater performance for less price. Personally I'm still tethered to my desktop PC (purchased when Apple declined to offer a mid range desktop) by my audio DSP PCIe cards. I'd love to replace it with my unibody MBP if the right hardware was available.
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Intel's i3/i5/i7 processors have been around for over 7 months now, and Apple still doesn't offer any of them in their upper-line computers
So much for providing 'leading edge' technology.
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The 45-nanometer CPUs have been around for 7 months. Apple has clearly been waiting for the die shrink to 32-nanometers. The 45-nanometer parts were an interim step, not really advantageous, especially in terms of thermal envelope which is a big factor for Apple.
The Mac Pro would feature a Xeon processor anyhow which has additional circuitry for interchip communication. The consumer-grade chips aren't intended to be used in a multi-chip configuration.
You can throw Bluray in there now. Why buy it from Apple? As for pros, they don't need DRM playback, they are the creators. Apple isn't thinking about the MP as a machine for watching movings. That's not the concern. As far a burning bluray, nothing is stopping you.
Apple has often adopted new technology early (802.11b) and retired legacy hardware (serial ports, floppy drives) quickly, but there are instances where they hold out.
They are not using OLEDs in their handheld devices (iPhone, iPod, iPad) nor have they included Blu-ray players (Steve's "big bag of hurt") even as a build-to-order option in Mac Pros. They have balked at including eSATA, don't have USB 3.0 yet, and waffled on FireWire availability on notebooks in the past couple of years.
You can throw Bluray in there now. Why buy it from Apple? As for pros, they don't need DRM playback, they are the creators. Apple isn't thinking about the MP as a machine for watching movings. That's not the concern. As far a burning bluray, nothing is stopping you.
hey thanks for the link. i may actually buy that. and upgrade my toast.
that said... i do want blu-ray playback on my MBP, i travel alot and buy alot of BD discs. definitely would like to be able to playback while on road. also would be pretty cool to have an HDMI out to watch on a bigscreen of hotel, house or such.
Hey, blu-Ray has shown love to apple with support for itunes and digital copy. its time for apple to return the favor.
why would they use non-xeon processors in the mac pro? Seems a bit odd actually since most of the mac pro users buy the computer based on the stability and power of the xeon line.
hey thanks for the link. i may actually buy that. and upgrade my toast.
that said... i do want blu-ray playback on my MBP, i travel alot and buy alot of BD discs. definitely would like to be able to playback while on road. also would be pretty cool to have an HDMI out to watch on a bigscreen of hotel, house or such.
Hey, blu-Ray has shown love to apple with support for itunes and digital copy. its time for apple to return the favor.
go and download the movies you want to watch... there are so many sources where you can get fullhd movies...
concerning the MacBook Pro: I got a late 2006 MBP and seriously want my new MBP to have a different processor line than my 3 1/2 year old model! This is so stupid... Apple seems to be waiting for the next Core i version.
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I want a new Mac mini, when to expect that?
when apple upgrades the consumer models to i Core CPUs. my guess at WWDC
I want a new Mac mini, when to expect that?
I love the new Mac mini server.
It would be nice if they offered a Mac mini cluster node.
No Hard Drives. No video out. Quad-core CPU.
There should be a dedicated Mac mini Home Theater model as well with a real HDMI port.
when apple upgrades the consumer models to i Core CPUs. my guess at WWDC
Unlikely. Apple has never announced iMacs nor MacBooks in June or July.
The only consumer model is has ever announced in either month was the original debut of the Mac mini. Apple is far more likely to announce new consumer models in August (they have done this plenty of times), to coincide with back-to-school/end-of-year.
Apple has more frequently announced pro models in the WWDC timeframe, particularly MacBook Pros.
It would be nice to see that offered in the Xserve line too. Does anyone use Xserve servers anymore?
OS X may be cheaper than Windows, but XServe's don't scale up very well and you'll end up spending more money on more servers in the end. apple should just license it out so you can install it on HP or Dell servers
Unlikely. Apple has never announced iMacs nor MacBooks in June or July.
The only consumer model is has ever announced in either month was the original debut of the Mac mini. Apple is far more likely to announce new consumer models in August (they have done this plenty of times), to coincide with back-to-school/end-of-year.
Apple has more frequently announced pro models in the WWDC timeframe, particularly MacBook Pros.
C2D is going away and with Dell/HP dropping prices on i Core systems it's making it very hard to buy Apple.
The Mac Pro with all these cores is really only good for programs that have such large static files to render that it can split the job amongst all the cores. Not many of Apple's "pro" apps can take advantage of Grand Central yet and they still they need very large files.
For regular personal use all these cores are extreme overkill, like Al Gores machine with 3 - 30" monitors.
You might use two cores all the time, rarely 4 or more constantly. Despite what some think, most people still do one major thing at a time and splitting up a small processing job amongst more cores takes longer than if it was done all on the first.
as a semi-pro user I find it almost impossible to max out the CPUs on my quad-core Mac Pro. No single program I use comes close to using all that CPU but what I find invaluable is my ability to do multiple CPU intensive tasks simultaneouly.
I can record DVD resolution video, encode another video into DVD format, convert a video to an MP3 audio file for a podcast, and burn 2 DVDs simultaneously without skipping a beat.
Unlikely. Apple has never announced iMacs nor MacBooks in June or July.
The only consumer model is has ever announced in either month was the original debut of the Mac mini. Apple is far more likely to announce new consumer models in August (they have done this plenty of times), to coincide with back-to-school/end-of-year.
Apple has more frequently announced pro models in the WWDC timeframe, particularly MacBook Pros.
you sure about that? the last macbook pro revision was june last year, which included the new 13MBP.
as a semi-pro user I find it almost impossible to max out the CPUs on my quad-core Mac Pro. No single program I use comes close to using all that CPU but what I find invaluable is my ability to do multiple CPU intensive tasks simultaneously (sic).
I can record DVD resolution video, encode another video into DVD format, convert a video to an MP3 audio file for a podcast, and burn 2 DVDs simultaneously without skipping a beat.
Well if you get a 12 core Mac Pro, you'll have to work 3x or more harder to take advantage of all those cores.
You could take multitasking to whole new level. Berserkerville then Basketville.
no reports of impending changes to the MacBook Pro line
Seriously, Apple, help a brother out.
This Core Duo isn't even 64-bit, and I can literally fry an egg on it if I run several tasks simultaneously.
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tons of them in the refurb store
Is that because -
1) they're more prone to problems
2) there's not high demand, so the refurbs sit around
3) they sell a lot of them so, therefore a lot of refurbs.
I'm guessing #2, with maybe a little of #1 due to their form factor. Looking on Craigslist, you'll see really good deals for MBAs, but not good deals for MBs (not even worth getting used because of the high resale value).
That is one of the most inane things I have heard.
I was actually being facetious, but Apple has always struck as being as much about idealogy as anything, and their neglect of their desktop lines has become a self fulfilling prophecy about the decline of the desktop.
I agree the desktop is declining in importance, now that there are quad core mobile CPUs, 500 GB 2.5" HDs, and powerful laptop graphics cards. But there is still value in desktops, especially as their components offer greater performance for less price. Personally I'm still tethered to my desktop PC (purchased when Apple declined to offer a mid range desktop) by my audio DSP PCIe cards. I'd love to replace it with my unibody MBP if the right hardware was available.
[CENTER][CENTER]Why are rumors suddenly being fueled now?
Intel's i3/i5/i7 processors have been around for over 7 months now, and Apple still doesn't offer any of them in their upper-line computers
So much for providing 'leading edge' technology.
[/CENTER][/CENTER]
The 45-nanometer CPUs have been around for 7 months. Apple has clearly been waiting for the die shrink to 32-nanometers. The 45-nanometer parts were an interim step, not really advantageous, especially in terms of thermal envelope which is a big factor for Apple.
The Mac Pro would feature a Xeon processor anyhow which has additional circuitry for interchip communication. The consumer-grade chips aren't intended to be used in a multi-chip configuration.
you sure about that? the last macbook pro revision was june last year, which included the new 13MBP.
Yes, I am sure about it.
MacBook and MacBook Pro are two different product lines. Please feel free to consult the MacRumors buying guide:
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro
If you don't believe me, go ahead and visit www.apple.com and see for yourself. They are separate.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LG/WH10LS30KMP/
Apple uses only leading edge technology.
This is not true.
Apple has often adopted new technology early (802.11b) and retired legacy hardware (serial ports, floppy drives) quickly, but there are instances where they hold out.
They are not using OLEDs in their handheld devices (iPhone, iPod, iPad) nor have they included Blu-ray players (Steve's "big bag of hurt") even as a build-to-order option in Mac Pros. They have balked at including eSATA, don't have USB 3.0 yet, and waffled on FireWire availability on notebooks in the past couple of years.
You can throw Bluray in there now. Why buy it from Apple? As for pros, they don't need DRM playback, they are the creators. Apple isn't thinking about the MP as a machine for watching movings. That's not the concern. As far a burning bluray, nothing is stopping you.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LG/WH10LS30KMP/
hey thanks for the link. i may actually buy that. and upgrade my toast.
that said... i do want blu-ray playback on my MBP, i travel alot and buy alot of BD discs. definitely would like to be able to playback while on road. also would be pretty cool to have an HDMI out to watch on a bigscreen of hotel, house or such.
Hey, blu-Ray has shown love to apple with support for itunes and digital copy. its time for apple to return the favor.
and also, 6 cores?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/i...-march-launch/
these apparently arrive in march.. Don't you think that apple has got a couple of pre-release processors for the mac pros, again?
hey thanks for the link. i may actually buy that. and upgrade my toast.
that said... i do want blu-ray playback on my MBP, i travel alot and buy alot of BD discs. definitely would like to be able to playback while on road. also would be pretty cool to have an HDMI out to watch on a bigscreen of hotel, house or such.
Hey, blu-Ray has shown love to apple with support for itunes and digital copy. its time for apple to return the favor.
go and download the movies you want to watch... there are so many sources where you can get fullhd movies...
concerning the MacBook Pro: I got a late 2006 MBP and seriously want my new MBP to have a different processor line than my 3 1/2 year old model! This is so stupid... Apple seems to be waiting for the next Core i version.