Apple offers guided tours of iPad software with new videos

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  • Reply 41 of 124
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    Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post






    It seems that in trying to differentiate themselves, other tablet interfaces have resorted to over-the-top flying, flipping logos that engage in video acrobatics just because they're able to, not because they have to. Things are asymmetric, with interface elements seemingly shot with Dutch angles, which instills a bleak, unstable, frenetic feel to the experience.



    Nobody besides apple has any taste. Never did.
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  • Reply 42 of 124
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    I'd like to know if iPad users will be able to share documents directly with their Mac, i.e. without having to give Apple a copy via iDisk.



    iDisk has industrial-strength encryption end-to-end. Not only that, but the encryption algorithm is industry standard, vetted by the finest cryptographers in the business. Apple cannot see what you upload. Nobody can. It is technologically infeasible to break Apple's iDisk encryption.
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  • Reply 43 of 124
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Make it look just like a magazine but with a 4:3 ratio for a 9.7" display. They have all the tools they need. What you asked for isn't tough to do with ePub. It is impossible with ePub if you want something more interactive, but there is WebKit and Cocoa for that. Your question is akin to asking how a video game can be played on the iPad when your looking at a children's book.



    Maybe I'm missing something here. What authoring environment does someone use to created complex layouts because inDesign isn't cutting it for me?
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  • Reply 44 of 124
    spotonspoton Posts: 645member
    Just got done with all the videos, the last few were the hardest to watch.



    I'm cool, I'm hard, I'm a power user. I run 4 or 5 operating systems at once if I wish on my MacBook Pro. I avoid iLife like the plague, "Pro" apps is what I use if I need it.



    The iPad and it's sickening lameness, is NOT for me. Ever.



    God, I want to fscking puke.





    I can't see anyone who wants to be cool being caught dead with a iPad.



    It's the ultimate lame device, even my high school kid agrees.



    And it's looking like one has little choice but, being the iPad isn't a open device.
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  • Reply 45 of 124
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Maybe I'm missing something here. What authoring environment does someone use to created complex layouts because inDesign isn't cutting it for me?



    The comment I replied to said "format", now you are saying "authoring". Obviously there is no iPad Interactive Publishing Authoring Software Kit at this point so they'll have to use what they've been using until they or someone makes one.



    What do they use to publish article on the web? Those same apps can be made for a 768x1024 9.7" display and auto-detect the device type, just like thousands of websites use for their mobile versions.
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  • Reply 46 of 124
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    The comment I replied to said "format", now you are saying "authoring". Obviously there is no iPad Interactive Publishing Authoring Software Kit at this point so they'll have to use what they've been using until they or someone makes one.



    Sorry I guess for the sake of brevity I was not clear enough. I want to layout some magazine style art as you mention. I have been able to code some css to add captions, fonts, colors in ePub but I'm a long, long, long way from where I need to be. Have you ever worked in the ePub format? Picture to the right, picture to the left, center type, justify type, is about all you apparently get with a standard ePub. No matter what you do in inDesign it does not translate to ePub when you export it.
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  • Reply 47 of 124
    joelsaltjoelsalt Posts: 827member
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    Just got done with all the videos, the last few were the hardest to watch.



    I'm cool, I'm hard, I'm a power user. I run 4 or 5 operating systems at once if I wish on my MacBook Pro. I avoid iLife like the plague, "Pro" apps is what I use if I need it.



    The iPad and it's sickening lameness, is NOT for me. Ever.



    God, I want to fscking puke.





    I can't see anyone who wants to be cool being caught dead with a iPad.



    It's the ultimate lame device, even my high school kid agrees.



    And it's looking like one has little choice but, being the iPad isn't a open device.



    you know, people who like the idea of the ipad don't post all day and simply say "OMG I CAN'T BELIVE SOMMEONE WOULDN'T WANT THIS WHAT A BUNCH OF LUZERS"



    its really, really tired. I won't even touch the irony of "I can't see anyone who wants to be cool being caught dead with an iPad."



    Critique the videos and the product, but do so critically
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  • Reply 48 of 124
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    The iPad ?... is NOT for me. Ever.



    You got that right. Apple can't please everyone, and they never try to. The good thing is though - Apple sell laptops that do just what you want already.
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  • Reply 49 of 124
    robmackrobmack Posts: 10member
    Is it just me or does everyone in a video showing someone using an iPad look like they need to sit in some awkward way just to be comfortable holding it? Obviously only a lucky few have used the device and time will tell what it is like to use, but it does make me wonder how comfortable it is to use.
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  • Reply 50 of 124
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Critique the videos and the product, but do so critically



    Don't tell him how to criticize things, he's entitled to do it as he pleases.
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  • Reply 51 of 124
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Is it just me or does everyone in a video showing someone using an iPad look like they need to sit in some awkward way just to be comfortable holding it? Obviously only a lucky few have used the device and time will tell what it is like to use, but it does make me wonder how comfortable it is to use.



    It's not just you. I imagine it would be most comfortable to use when sitting on a soft couch.
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  • Reply 52 of 124
    davidadavida Posts: 57member
    If the iPad could do one and only one thing, I'd buy it:



    Display a PDF from any mac (or PC) on my network.



    For a tablet computer, this seems to me to be the most basic task.



    I really don't see how an iPad could be useful. Save the $500 + cost of an antiglare screen film and buy a laptop.
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  • Reply 53 of 124
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    Sorry I guess for the sake of brevity I was not clear enough. I want to layout some magazine style art as you mention. I have been able to code some css to add captions, fonts, colors in ePub but I'm a long, long, long way from where I need to be. Have you ever worked in the ePub format? Picture to the right, picture to the left, center type, justify type, is about all you apparently get with a standard ePub. No matter what you do in inDesign it does not translate to ePub when you export it.



    On that note, from a user's perspective, I'm right there wish you. It's pretty much the reason why I currently have no interest in the iPad as a consumer.



    In fact I was just talking about this oversight yesterday. If they offered a great way to get magazines and newspapers on the device, reinvigorating periodical sales, I would have been on board, likely subscribing to more content than I could possible read. I don't read printed periodicals much and have never been a fan of browser-based news despite the convenience.



    This could have been even bigger and given these companies, which seem to be falling everyday, a chance at survival while offering something better than their printed materials. For instance, I think interactive content like NYTimes crossword puzzle to be done in the virtual newspaper and even an option to export to mail or print and Popular Science magazine to offer streaming interviews and prototypes that can be manipulated in 3D. I also think it has to be auto-delivered like Podcasts are to iTunes, your print magazines to your mailbox and newspapers to your front door when they are ready.



    The conclusion of my conversation was that if Apple expected even half the rush they seem to be experiencing that perhaps they didn't feel it had to be ready with the 1st iPad. After all, iPhone OS and the App Store have done great despite not being timed together. I think we'll eventually get what we want out of the device.
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  • Reply 54 of 124
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Originally Posted by davida View Post


    If the iPad could do one and only one thing, I'd buy it:



    Display a PDF from any mac (or PC) on my network.



    I am positive there's a solution for you.



    The biggest drawback is not viewing documents, it's printing. Just like the iPhone, direct printing is a mish-mash-mess.
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  • Reply 55 of 124
    spotonspoton Posts: 645member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by robmack View Post


    Is it just me or does everyone in a video showing someone using an iPad look like they need to sit in some awkward way just to be comfortable holding it? Obviously only a lucky few have used the device and time will tell what it is like to use, but it does make me wonder how comfortable it is to use.





    Really, kind of hard to convince people that your working when you got your feet up on the desk so your legs are supporting the iPad in the correct viewing angle. Note: the iPad Case isn't enough.





    People will soon begin to realize the detrimental ergonomic side effects of the iPad, namely the inability to hold itself in a viewing position relative to the eyes and the constant arm hand movements to navigate the screen. Also that reflective screen and fingerprints.



    I see iPad Cases coming later from third parties that have the other half of a laptop in them, a real keyboard, trackpad and a monitor stand. By the time one buys that in addition to a iPad, it would cost just as much as a MacBook/Pro.





    Check out this survey of potential iPad purchasers



    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=108183
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  • Reply 56 of 124
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The biggest drawback is not viewing documents, it's printing. Just like the iPhone, direct printing is a mish-mash-mess.



    I was under the impression that the iPad had a proper direct printing option and network file accessibility.
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  • Reply 57 of 124
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    On that note, from a user's perspective, I'm right there wish you. It's pretty much the reason why I currently have no interest in the iPad as a consumer.



    In fact I was just talking about this oversight yesterday. If they offered a great way to get magazines and newspapers on the device, reinvigorating periodical sales, I would have been on board, likely subscribing to more content than I could possible read. I don't read printed periodicals much and have never been a fan of browser-based news despite the convenience.



    This could have been even bigger and given these companies, which seem to be falling everyday, a chance at survival while offering something better than their printed materials. For instance, I think interactive content like NYTimes crossword puzzle to be done in the virtual newspaper and even an option to export to mail or print and Popular Science magazine to offer streaming interviews and prototypes that can be manipulated in 3D. I also think it has to be auto-delivered like Podcasts are to iTunes, your print magazines to your mailbox and newspapers to your front door when they are ready.



    The conclusion of my conversation was that if Apple expected even half the rush they seem to be experiencing that perhaps they didn't feel it had to be ready with the 1st iPad. After all, iPhone OS and the App Store have done great despite not being timed together. I think we'll eventually get what we want out of the device.



    I'm sure Apple has shared with the big publishers how to "format" an ePub to leverage the capabilities of the iPad however small publishers like our firm are just shooting in the dark. There are so many instances where xml style sheets differ from CSS on the web. You get errors and messages that styles are not permitted in some tags. Some styles are not supported, etc.



    It is sort of like trying to write a message upside down and backwards compared to web programming. I'll get it eventually but without sufficient examples and only abstracted specifications, the going is slow.
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  • Reply 58 of 124
    foo2foo2 Posts: 1,077member
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    Originally Posted by AppleRulez View Post


    iDisk has industrial-strength encryption end-to-end. Not only that, but the encryption algorithm is industry standard, vetted by the finest cryptographers in the business. Apple cannot see what you upload. Nobody can. It is technologically infeasible to break Apple's iDisk encryption.



    You'll need to provide a trusted authority before I believe data are encrypted on Apple's iDisk servers. I know the communications can be encrypted (using https), but I believe iDisk communications can also be unencrypted (using http) and I don't believe the stored data are encrypted at all on Apple's servers--unless what you put there was already encrypted.



    This isn't any different than most on-line services, but that doesn't mean any of them should be trusted.
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  • Reply 59 of 124
    davidadavida Posts: 57member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    I am positive there's a solution for you.



    The biggest drawback is not viewing documents, it's printing. Just like the iPhone, direct printing is a mish-mash-mess.



    Really? What?



    It can't mount a network shared volume. I don't want to have to go 'download' a PDF to the iPad every time I want to view a PDF.



    If I'm wrong on this, please show me a reference.
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  • Reply 60 of 124
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
    I'm planning on taking the iPad along on a cruise in May, for reading books and viewing our photos, and reading e-mail. I'm going to bet that nobody on the ship will tell me I'm an uncool loser, but that a lot of people will ask "is that an iPad?"



    Either way, it's a risk I'm willing to take.
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