Built-in Hyper-Threading allows two threads to run simultaneously on each core, so Mac OS X recognises four virtual cores instead of just two. When you’re running multiple applications at once, the Core i5 and Core i7 processors spread tasks more evenly across a greater number of cores — so you can get more done, faster."
I'm not sure if that means that the i5 supports Hyper Threading – or has it just been cleverly worded to suggest that it does, when in fact it is just stating the overall benefits of multiple cores (two in the case of the i5?)
I'm not sure if that means that the i5 supports Hyper Threading ? or has it just been cleverly worded to suggest that it does, when in fact it is just stating the overall benefits of multiple core (two in the case of the i5?)
This troll is still waiting for the 13" matte/anti-glare option to upgrade from his 12" powerbook.
Might be time to find another option for my mobile business needs.
I'm disappointed too. Once one uses a Mac it's difficult to change. But Apples persistent ignorance of the needs of mobile business users may leave no other choice.
Options are the Sony S-series and perhaps Acers 8471 series. I think the Sony has the better display though.
hmmm, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that the display ports now have audio, but I can't find any reference to this on Apple's site.
OK, the Mini Display Ports on the new MacBook Pros do have audio passthrough, so let this be the end of the "wah, Apple's laptops don't have HDMI" whining!
It's times like this when I wish I still had a Dell.
My 2006 15" MBP Core Duo is still going strong after almost 4 years and 3 OS upgrades! Two weeks ago I accidentally spilled some water over the keyboard. Enough that when I turned it upside down water came trickling out. I felt a mixture of dread and delight. Dread because I thought I just killed my Mac and delight because I knew the new ones were coming out. Alas, it never skipped a beat.
This troll is still waiting for the 13" matte/anti-glare option to upgrade from his 12" powerbook.
Might be time to find another option for my mobile business needs.
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Originally Posted by meshope
I'm disappointed too. Once one uses a Mac it's difficult to change. But Apples persistent ignorance of the needs of mobile business users may leave no other choice.
Options are the Sony S-series and perhaps Acers 8471 series. I think the Sony has the better display though.
I agree that Apple should be offering an anti-glare option on all its machines that have LCD (iMacs included!).
FYI, I have installed/applied the Photodon anti-reflective film to several computers, notebooks and iMacs. It does do as it is designed, to significantly cut down on reflections. But in a few cases, I have noticed a kind of 'twinkly' effect that I am not sure is to my liking. Not sure if that is because of visual interaction between the film and the kind of LCD display or what. But the photodon aftermarket option, or other similar vendors, is about the only choice till Apple comes around.
I have submitted several Apple Feedbacks on this issue, requesting them to provide anti-reflective screen options/choices. I would encourage you to add your comment there as well, as I think they are more likely to do something if they hear it directly.
It's times like this when I wish I still had a Dell.
My 2006 15" MBP Core Duo is still going strong after almost 4 years and 3 OS upgrades! Two weeks ago I accidentally spilled some water over the keyboard. Enough that when I turned it upside down water came trickling out. I felt a mixture of dread and delight. Dread because I thought I just killed my Mac and delight because I knew the new ones were coming out. Alas, it never skipped a beat.
Dell laptops are garbage. Half the hardware isn't compatible with the other half and most of them end up frying.
I found a machine that has nearly all the things people are complaining about in this thread. Introducing the HP EliteBook 8740w. Now, it's pricer than the comparable MBP and weighs quite a bit more while offering less battery duration, but it includes USB3.0, eSATA, docking connector, EC/54, SmartCard Reader, everything else you care about in the MBP and enough specs to impress your friends when you tell them about it.
The only letdown for the myopic appears to be the inclusion of DisplayPort thus requiring an adapter to make it HDMI. But don't fret, you get VGA and an RJ-11 jack, which will come in handy if your desk becomes the center of a Work Cubicle Time Machine that sends you back to 1995. Leave to HP's forward (and backward) thinking.
I found a machine that has nearly all the things people are complaining about in this thread. Introducing the HP EliteBook 8740w. Now, it's pricer than the comparable MBP and weighs quite a bit more while offering less battery duration, but it includes USB3.0, eSATA, docking connector, EC/54, SmartCard Reader, everything else you care about in the MBP and enough specs to impress your friends when you tell them about it.
The only letdown for the myopic appears to be the inclusion of DisplayPort thus requiring an adapter to make it HDMI. But don't fret, you get VGA and an RJ-11 jack, which will come in handy if your desk becomes the center of a Work Cubicle Time Machine that sends you back to 1995. Leave to HP's forward (and backward) thinking.
That is a very full-featured laptop, but has no one here ever heard the concept of "Less is more?" "all the things people are complaining about in this thread" are nice, but would they make a real difference in your use and enjoyment of an MBP? The answer is different for all of us, but for me the answer is no. I just ordered a 15" i7, anti-glare high res, 8 gigs, 7200 rpm /500 gig with Apple care. I'll have it next week.
I ordered a new 13", but I would say that USB 3.0 ports would have been really nice. The rest I am indifferent towards.
Agreed. Apple might choose to skip USB 3 and try to leapfrog everyone on LightPeak kind of like they did with "n" Wifi. They released products using 802.11n before the final spec was approved.
I ordered 15" MBP i5 HiRes Gloss. I am going to install a 500 gig 7200 rpm drive myself. Apple added 2-day shipping for me and gave me a MB power adapter since mine ironically fried just this Tues when the updates came out. That was quite a coincidence. I have read they updated the MagSafe plug so it doesn't fray. That's very good to hear- the current connector was so stupidly small it facilitated yanking w/ the cord and thus fraying. I guess they had enough returned power bricks it started to cost them, heh. I'm excited. The one thing, man this was expensive. I'm expecting nothing less than perfection.
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"Hyper-Threading.
Built-in Hyper-Threading allows two threads to run simultaneously on each core, so Mac OS X recognises four virtual cores instead of just two. When you’re running multiple applications at once, the Core i5 and Core i7 processors spread tasks more evenly across a greater number of cores — so you can get more done, faster."
I'm not sure if that means that the i5 supports Hyper Threading – or has it just been cleverly worded to suggest that it does, when in fact it is just stating the overall benefits of multiple cores (two in the case of the i5?)
Can anybody shed any light on this?
I'm not sure if that means that the i5 supports Hyper Threading ? or has it just been cleverly worded to suggest that it does, when in fact it is just stating the overall benefits of multiple core (two in the case of the i5?)
Can anybody shed any light on this?
? http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollecti...familyId=43483
? http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollecti...familyId=43483
Sweet ? thanks for that.
So both the i5 and i7 would appear to support Hyper Threading (2 cores, 4 threads).
So why the hell would anybody pay extra for the i7?
Sweet ? thanks for that.
So both the i5 and i7 would appear to support Hyper Threading (2 cores, 4 threads).
So why the hell would anybody pay extra for the i7?
When you get the i7 you get the 512MB GPU. The i5 only comes with the 256MB GPU.
When you get the i7 you get the 512MB GPU. The i5 only comes with the 256MB GPU.
If you are comparing only the CPU to CPU, what advantage is there from Core-i5 to Core-i7?
edit: Here is the answer...Note: These aren't necessarily the CPUs Apple uses, just a mobile i5 and i7 with the same clock speed for comparison.
This troll is still waiting for the 13" matte/anti-glare option to upgrade from his 12" powerbook.
Might be time to find another option for my mobile business needs.
I'm disappointed too. Once one uses a Mac it's difficult to change. But Apples persistent ignorance of the needs of mobile business users may leave no other choice.
Options are the Sony S-series and perhaps Acers 8471 series. I think the Sony has the better display though.
hmmm, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that the display ports now have audio, but I can't find any reference to this on Apple's site.
OK, the Mini Display Ports on the new MacBook Pros do have audio passthrough, so let this be the end of the "wah, Apple's laptops don't have HDMI" whining!
My 2006 15" MBP Core Duo is still going strong after almost 4 years and 3 OS upgrades! Two weeks ago I accidentally spilled some water over the keyboard. Enough that when I turned it upside down water came trickling out. I felt a mixture of dread and delight. Dread because I thought I just killed my Mac and delight because I knew the new ones were coming out. Alas, it never skipped a beat.
...so let this be the end of the "wah, Apple's laptops don't have HDMI" whining!
Oh, If only it were that easy.
When you get the i7 you get the 512MB GPU. The i5 only comes with the 256MB GPU.
I believe both come with 512MB in the 17" MBPs.
If you are comparing only the CPU to CPU, what advantage is there from Core-i5 to Core-i7?
edit: Here is the answer...Note: These aren't necessarily the CPUs Apple uses, just a mobile i5 and i7 with the same clock speed for comparison.
Thanks again for providing another interesting link.
I guess the 17" i5 looks as though it's the sweet-spot for me!
Originally Posted by Mike
This troll is still waiting for the 13" matte/anti-glare option to upgrade from his 12" powerbook.
Might be time to find another option for my mobile business needs.
I'm disappointed too. Once one uses a Mac it's difficult to change. But Apples persistent ignorance of the needs of mobile business users may leave no other choice.
Options are the Sony S-series and perhaps Acers 8471 series. I think the Sony has the better display though.
I agree that Apple should be offering an anti-glare option on all its machines that have LCD (iMacs included!).
FYI, I have installed/applied the Photodon anti-reflective film to several computers, notebooks and iMacs. It does do as it is designed, to significantly cut down on reflections. But in a few cases, I have noticed a kind of 'twinkly' effect that I am not sure is to my liking. Not sure if that is because of visual interaction between the film and the kind of LCD display or what. But the photodon aftermarket option, or other similar vendors, is about the only choice till Apple comes around.
I have submitted several Apple Feedbacks on this issue, requesting them to provide anti-reflective screen options/choices. I would encourage you to add your comment there as well, as I think they are more likely to do something if they hear it directly.
why apple not introduce ATI graphic card for a new macbook pro? really disappointed.
Me not know.
Fire bad!
It's times like this when I wish I still had a Dell.
My 2006 15" MBP Core Duo is still going strong after almost 4 years and 3 OS upgrades! Two weeks ago I accidentally spilled some water over the keyboard. Enough that when I turned it upside down water came trickling out. I felt a mixture of dread and delight. Dread because I thought I just killed my Mac and delight because I knew the new ones were coming out. Alas, it never skipped a beat.
Dell laptops are garbage. Half the hardware isn't compatible with the other half and most of them end up frying.
Try to decide if the 1680x1050 High Resolution screen is worth the extra $100. I like the glossy...
Thoughts? Advice? I'll be getting a low-end 15" most likely.
Absolutely worth it! I would pay $500 more for the high-resolution option if it were to cost that much.
I found a machine that has nearly all the things people are complaining about in this thread. Introducing the HP EliteBook 8740w. Now, it's pricer than the comparable MBP and weighs quite a bit more while offering less battery duration, but it includes USB3.0, eSATA, docking connector, EC/54, SmartCard Reader, everything else you care about in the MBP and enough specs to impress your friends when you tell them about it.The only letdown for the myopic appears to be the inclusion of DisplayPort thus requiring an adapter to make it HDMI. But don't fret, you get VGA and an RJ-11 jack, which will come in handy if your desk becomes the center of a Work Cubicle Time Machine that sends you back to 1995. Leave to HP's forward (and backward) thinking.
That is a very full-featured laptop, but has no one here ever heard the concept of "Less is more?" "all the things people are complaining about in this thread" are nice, but would they make a real difference in your use and enjoyment of an MBP? The answer is different for all of us, but for me the answer is no. I just ordered a 15" i7, anti-glare high res, 8 gigs, 7200 rpm /500 gig with Apple care. I'll have it next week.
I ordered a new 13", but I would say that USB 3.0 ports would have been really nice. The rest I am indifferent towards.
Agreed. Apple might choose to skip USB 3 and try to leapfrog everyone on LightPeak kind of like they did with "n" Wifi. They released products using 802.11n before the final spec was approved.