I really do not understand why Gizmodo is not facing legal issues, they bought stolen goods...just because someone found the phone did not make them the owner.
They are not facing legal issues because they did contact Apple, and Apple brushed them off. They made an effort to return it and got no call back according to the story that's being told.
I don't understand the high emotions about the case. Most folks immediately cover their phone in a protective case or sleeve anyway. It's just a phone. I don't think it's 'hideous'. It's just glass and metal. I actually like the buttons.
The bezel edge appears to be smaller on this model than the 3GS. The distance from the extreme edge of my 3G and GS to the actual display area is about 4mm. This one appears to be much smaller (about the width of the screw down by the speaker. If thats true, the actual display area may not have changed all that much and the smaller form factor may just be due to removed bezel (wasted) space.
They are not facing legal issues because they did contact Apple, and Apple brushed them off. They made an effort to return it and got no call back according to the story that's being told.
They are not facing legal issues because the 4th gen iPhone hasn't been released yet. If Apple decides to do anything, they will do so after they release the phone. Calling up Apple and saying "yo, I got this iPhone that doesn't look like an iPhone, but I think its yours" isn't a reasonable effort to return it in my opinion. I can only imagine the the weird phone calls they receive.
They are not facing legal issues because the 4th gen iPhone hasn't been released yet. If Apple decides to do anything, they will do so after they release the phone. Calling up Apple and saying "yo, I got this iPhone that doesn't look like an iPhone, but I think its yours" isn't a reasonable effort to return it in my opinion. I can only imagine the the weird phone calls they receive.
What would you suggest they do? Just send it to them certified mail? They contacted Apple, and Apple wasn't interested. If Apple was truly concerned, they would have prepped their phone folks about a lost prototype. It's really not that hard to communicate something of that sort.
It also not like their spilling some huge industrial secret here. It has all the same basic components as any other modern phone. It's not that 'sensitive'. The OS is the most interesting part, and the rest is just interesting.
...Gruber's comments on this are all very one sided. He's pointing out the law under the guise that Gizmodo...
I was responding directly to this,
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Originally Posted by oneaburns
I would disagree. It's theirs until Apple proves otherwise by making a claim on it. If I leave a new iPhone in a bar with no receipt and no user info stored in it then it becomes the property of whoever finds it.
which has since been edited into a completely different post. So, my comment didn't actually apply to Gizmodo, but to the finder of the iPhone.
Teckstud wasn't very good at using complete sentences, capitalization, punctuation, or really completing a thought. His MO was posting trollish one liners in succession. I think this is one of the more intelligent trolls, thought that is pointing out the thinnest kid at fat camp.
What would you suggest they do? Just send it to them certified mail? They contacted Apple, and Apple wasn't interested. If Apple was truly concerned, they would have prepped their phone folks about a lost prototype. It's really not that hard to communicate something of that sort.
It also not like their spilling some huge industrial secret here. It has all the same basic components as any other modern phone. It's not that 'sensitive'. The OS is the most interesting part, and the rest is just interesting.
He didn't know it was a 4th gen iPhone when he found it. If he had no intentions of keeping it, he probably would have given it to the bartender to keep until the guy came back looking for it (which he did). Gruber also pointed out that you are legally required to turn it over to the police before you can claim it as your own.
I'm not making any massive attacks against Gizmodo or the guy who found the iPhone. Just pointing out the obvious. It does appear that Apple has some legal grounds to go after Gizmodo (if they so choose), and if they did, it would be after the iPhone launch (for obvious reasons). That is all.
I think that it's great that Steve responds to emails but notice that he made no comments about that poor engineer? I suspect that after receiving this email he called down to the iDungeon and had the albino monk go to level 10.
I don't refer to new colours as new models, although technically Apple would (as well as varying storage capacities). I was more referring to the form factor. If a white back looks fine for this form factor they could include it (I'm not sure that it would).
On the other hand, I don't view white as a requirement. When given a choice, 30% of people may select white, but I if you remove that option, I suspect virtually all of those people would still buy an iPhone. I prefer black, but if white was the only option, I would have still bought it.
I agree with you.
I wonder if they will expand the color palette to match that of the Nanos?
What do you mean by clear glass? Do you mean so you can see the insides of the phone?
Maybe the aluminum band will be made in different colors, like the iPods.
I was quoting Prof. Peabody and he was referring to being able to see the inner workings of the device, yes. I don't think the iPhone will get the nano treatment yet, but who knows.
Many before me have said this but, feature set does not mean superiority:
I have a sprint fusic before my iphone and it had a radio transmitter on it, however I think I only used it one or twice because in about 10 min it would run the battery dead.
So some people with say (if Apple ever added the feature) "OMG they are so far behind"
Even if Apples version lasted hours.
Also, the screen does not need to be bigger, higher resolution I am all for and maybe extend it farther to the edges of the phone, but not a bigger form. It still needs to fix in ones pants pocket.
Something that would be cool to see and I think there was some stories on it a few months back, but those little transmitters so you could tie your debit card into the phone and swipe it on those scanners. Maybe even car insurance and drivers License.
One more thought,
I would like to be able to add folders on the phone for email, and folders for pictures taken on the phone, I pay bills a lot on my phone and use screen shot to save the Conformation numbers.
I don't refer to new colours as new models, although technically Apple would (as well as varying storage capacities). I was more referring to the form factor. If a white back looks fine for this form factor they could include it (I'm not sure that it would).
On the other hand, I don't view white as a requirement. When given a choice, 30% of people may select white, but I if you remove that option, I suspect virtually all of those people would still buy an iPhone. I prefer black, but if white was the only option, I would have still bought it.
True enough. I was mainly trying to figure out what Steve Jobs might have meant by the "you ain't seen nothing yet" comment, when he was asked about whether the Gizmodo iPhone theft thing had taken all the surprise out of the next iPhone announcement.
I can't see as to why they'd be making different sizes at this point, and the different capacities all use identical exteriors, so I was reaching for materials choices I guess.
Like as not it was just ad-speak/puffery or refers to some minor software improvement.
True enough. I was mainly trying to figure out what Steve Jobs might have meant by the "you ain't seen nothing yet" comment, when he was asked about whether the Gizmodo iPhone theft thing had taken all the surprise out of the next iPhone announcement.
I can't see as to why they'd be making different sizes at this point, and the different capacities all use identical exteriors, so I was reaching for materials choices I guess.
Like as not it was just ad-speak/puffery or refers to some minor software improvement.
In addition to what we still don't know about the next iPhone (which is a lot), perhaps we'll get a 10.7 preview? One can dream.
As the Owner of a 3G, I will be buying this. My iPhone lives in a case anyway. This thing could be bright pink with flower power daisies on the back and I wouldn't really care.
I just want more horse power, sane multitasking and better battery life.
[The DVT milestone is very late in the game; based on this, I no7w believe that this unit very closely, if not exactly, resembles what Apple plans to release."]---Running a DVT doesn't mean it's late in the game. A DVT is run from the very beginning to the very end.
Only Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive know how the final product will look like.
I'd be very surprised if Steve would give the actual iPhone 4G to a 27 year old engineer who got drunk sometime in March and forgot about his phone
What the engineer probably got was the technology of an iPhone 4G, not the actual hardware! It looks like they stripped the phone off his (ergonomic) shell. That would explain the nakedness of the prototype.
Only Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive know how the final product will look like.
I'd be very surprised if Steve would give the actual iPhone 4G to a 27 year old engineer who got drunk sometime in March and forgot about his phone
What the engineer probably got was the technology of an iPhone 4G, not the actual hardware! It looks like they stripped the phone off his (ergonomic) shell. That would explain the nakedness of the prototype.
It's amazing that the internal hardware fit perfectly inside this shell considering that it was actually designed for another more ergonomic shell. /s
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I agree!!
I really do not understand why Gizmodo is not facing legal issues, they bought stolen goods...just because someone found the phone did not make them the owner.
They are not facing legal issues because they did contact Apple, and Apple brushed them off. They made an effort to return it and got no call back according to the story that's being told.
I don't understand the high emotions about the case. Most folks immediately cover their phone in a protective case or sleeve anyway. It's just a phone. I don't think it's 'hideous'. It's just glass and metal. I actually like the buttons.
The bezel edge appears to be smaller on this model than the 3GS. The distance from the extreme edge of my 3G and GS to the actual display area is about 4mm. This one appears to be much smaller (about the width of the screw down by the speaker. If thats true, the actual display area may not have changed all that much and the smaller form factor may just be due to removed bezel (wasted) space.
They are not facing legal issues because they did contact Apple, and Apple brushed them off. They made an effort to return it and got no call back according to the story that's being told.
They are not facing legal issues because the 4th gen iPhone hasn't been released yet. If Apple decides to do anything, they will do so after they release the phone. Calling up Apple and saying "yo, I got this iPhone that doesn't look like an iPhone, but I think its yours" isn't a reasonable effort to return it in my opinion. I can only imagine the the weird phone calls they receive.
They are not facing legal issues because the 4th gen iPhone hasn't been released yet. If Apple decides to do anything, they will do so after they release the phone. Calling up Apple and saying "yo, I got this iPhone that doesn't look like an iPhone, but I think its yours" isn't a reasonable effort to return it in my opinion. I can only imagine the the weird phone calls they receive.
What would you suggest they do? Just send it to them certified mail? They contacted Apple, and Apple wasn't interested. If Apple was truly concerned, they would have prepped their phone folks about a lost prototype. It's really not that hard to communicate something of that sort.
It also not like their spilling some huge industrial secret here. It has all the same basic components as any other modern phone. It's not that 'sensitive'. The OS is the most interesting part, and the rest is just interesting.
...Gruber's comments on this are all very one sided. He's pointing out the law under the guise that Gizmodo...
I was responding directly to this,
Originally Posted by oneaburns
I would disagree. It's theirs until Apple proves otherwise by making a claim on it. If I leave a new iPhone in a bar with no receipt and no user info stored in it then it becomes the property of whoever finds it.
which has since been edited into a completely different post. So, my comment didn't actually apply to Gizmodo, but to the finder of the iPhone.
Teckstud wasn't very good at using complete sentences, capitalization, punctuation, or really completing a thought. His MO was posting trollish one liners in succession. I think this is one of the more intelligent trolls, thought that is pointing out the thinnest kid at fat camp.
What would you suggest they do? Just send it to them certified mail? They contacted Apple, and Apple wasn't interested. If Apple was truly concerned, they would have prepped their phone folks about a lost prototype. It's really not that hard to communicate something of that sort.
It also not like their spilling some huge industrial secret here. It has all the same basic components as any other modern phone. It's not that 'sensitive'. The OS is the most interesting part, and the rest is just interesting.
He didn't know it was a 4th gen iPhone when he found it. If he had no intentions of keeping it, he probably would have given it to the bartender to keep until the guy came back looking for it (which he did). Gruber also pointed out that you are legally required to turn it over to the police before you can claim it as your own.
I'm not making any massive attacks against Gizmodo or the guy who found the iPhone. Just pointing out the obvious. It does appear that Apple has some legal grounds to go after Gizmodo (if they so choose), and if they did, it would be after the iPhone launch (for obvious reasons). That is all.
I think that it's great that Steve responds to emails but notice that he made no comments about that poor engineer?
Princess Bride FTW haha
I don't refer to new colours as new models, although technically Apple would (as well as varying storage capacities). I was more referring to the form factor. If a white back looks fine for this form factor they could include it (I'm not sure that it would).
On the other hand, I don't view white as a requirement. When given a choice, 30% of people may select white, but I if you remove that option, I suspect virtually all of those people would still buy an iPhone. I prefer black, but if white was the only option, I would have still bought it.
I agree with you.
I wonder if they will expand the color palette to match that of the Nanos?
Clear glass would be nice as a limited edition model or something.
What do you mean by clear glass? Do you mean so you can see the insides of the phone?
Maybe the aluminum band will be made in different colors, like the iPods.
What do you mean by clear glass? Do you mean so you can see the insides of the phone?
Maybe the aluminum band will be made in different colors, like the iPods.
I was quoting Prof. Peabody and he was referring to being able to see the inner workings of the device, yes. I don't think the iPhone will get the nano treatment yet, but who knows.
I posted this yesteraday, but in case anyone missed it, it's quite well done.
Good One!
I have a sprint fusic before my iphone and it had a radio transmitter on it, however I think I only used it one or twice because in about 10 min it would run the battery dead.
So some people with say (if Apple ever added the feature) "OMG they are so far behind"
Even if Apples version lasted hours.
Also, the screen does not need to be bigger, higher resolution I am all for and maybe extend it farther to the edges of the phone, but not a bigger form. It still needs to fix in ones pants pocket.
Something that would be cool to see and I think there was some stories on it a few months back, but those little transmitters so you could tie your debit card into the phone and swipe it on those scanners. Maybe even car insurance and drivers License.
One more thought,
I would like to be able to add folders on the phone for email, and folders for pictures taken on the phone, I pay bills a lot on my phone and use screen shot to save the Conformation numbers.
I don't refer to new colours as new models, although technically Apple would (as well as varying storage capacities). I was more referring to the form factor. If a white back looks fine for this form factor they could include it (I'm not sure that it would).
On the other hand, I don't view white as a requirement. When given a choice, 30% of people may select white, but I if you remove that option, I suspect virtually all of those people would still buy an iPhone. I prefer black, but if white was the only option, I would have still bought it.
True enough. I was mainly trying to figure out what Steve Jobs might have meant by the "you ain't seen nothing yet" comment, when he was asked about whether the Gizmodo iPhone theft thing had taken all the surprise out of the next iPhone announcement.
I can't see as to why they'd be making different sizes at this point, and the different capacities all use identical exteriors, so I was reaching for materials choices I guess.
Like as not it was just ad-speak/puffery or refers to some minor software improvement.
True enough. I was mainly trying to figure out what Steve Jobs might have meant by the "you ain't seen nothing yet" comment, when he was asked about whether the Gizmodo iPhone theft thing had taken all the surprise out of the next iPhone announcement.
I can't see as to why they'd be making different sizes at this point, and the different capacities all use identical exteriors, so I was reaching for materials choices I guess.
Like as not it was just ad-speak/puffery or refers to some minor software improvement.
In addition to what we still don't know about the next iPhone (which is a lot), perhaps we'll get a 10.7 preview? One can dream.
I just want more horse power, sane multitasking and better battery life.
Tho' I am not sure the last two can co-exist.
I suspect that after receiving this email he called down to the iDungeon and had the albino monk go to level 10.
And then we heard the sound of ultimate suffering.
He'll be stored until Jobs need to harvest his organs.
Very cruel. But.....
I'd be very surprised if Steve would give the actual iPhone 4G to a 27 year old engineer who got drunk sometime in March and forgot about his phone
What the engineer probably got was the technology of an iPhone 4G, not the actual hardware! It looks like they stripped the phone off his (ergonomic) shell. That would explain the nakedness of the prototype.
Only Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive know how the final product will look like.
I'd be very surprised if Steve would give the actual iPhone 4G to a 27 year old engineer who got drunk sometime in March and forgot about his phone
What the engineer probably got was the technology of an iPhone 4G, not the actual hardware! It looks like they stripped the phone off his (ergonomic) shell. That would explain the nakedness of the prototype.
It's amazing that the internal hardware fit perfectly inside this shell considering that it was actually designed for another more ergonomic shell. /s