You are likely right. If Apple complained at all, it was as an advertiser.
I don't think it is tactless her to do it, just because they are a sponsor. If she thought it was a worthwhile skit, it would sort of be selling out not to do it just because they are a sponsor. A sponsor buys your time and image. They might drop you if you piss them off, but I suppose integrity has a price.
You are right there, a price few are willing to pay! lol
I actually came VERY close to crashing on the freeway when looking at the screen of my iPhone to skip to the next song. I really think there needs to be an easier way to do this without having to look at the screen (like a gesture?).
On my old iPod I of course didn't have to look at the screen because it had tactile buttons.
You bet I stopped doing that. Thank goodness lesson learned and no harm done.
Apple managment acts more and more like Scientology Church. Congratulations on taboo. It may not always work everywhere fortunatelly and you will not be able to do anything about it sometimes.
I figured she would be good with... multitouch...ing... something...
you either failed miserably at making a funny point, or you're a jerk.
back on topic: I'm in the school that believes we simply have no idea what really happened.
but guys, satire is criticism achieved by exaggeration: you want to take a shot at a corporation that packages small amounts of cereal in big boxes, you write about its next product being ten servings of cereal packed in refrigerator-sized boxes.
parody is satire through simulation: you make an ad pretending to be the cereal company's ad, showing a woman trying to squeeze the new cereal box through the front door; it won't fit so she breaks it open, starts filling bowls for the family--but by the time she gets to sissy the box runs out. mom and dad hoist the box overhead, shake it, peer inside, and one last flake falls out. fade to logo?
Apple gets harder to like every day. Now they contact a comedian because of a comedy bit? Aren't any of you finding these numerous heavy-handed Apple actions a bit disconcerting? Apple the new Microsoft? Afraid so.
And given the poor execution, one couldn't really tell if the commercial was being serious or mocking.
Poor execution? It was clear to me she was making fun of herself, or technophobes in general, not the iPhone. She could have done the same joke with any smartphone, but if she's an Apple user herself, naturally she picked that one. I thought it was well done and funny.
There are so many "I'm a Mac / I'm a PC" parodies in YouTube, and there were parodies of the "switcher" ads before that, and I remember parodies of the "What's On Your PowerBook" magazine ads in the 90's ... so I would agree that since we don't know what conversation actually took place it's best not to assume Apple was trying to squelch it.
Instead of being huge jerks, you need to embrace Ellen's example. You need to show off your exceptional customer service at your stores. This is an opportunity to show Apple's capacity to assist someone as clumsy and ridiculous as Ellen's comedic persona!
Instead you sent the troglodyte to bash hammer on Ellen's head!
Well is that all the information we're going to get?
I'd like to know what the actual basis (possibly legal) for Apple's complaint was and how she actually got the complaint, and exactly who at Apple did the complaining.
Note that she didn't simply "say" things or make claims about the iPhone, but rather, she actually demonstrated its physical use via a fake commercial aired on her show.
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You sir, are an idiot! As you display so well on many posts, on many threads!
"look like, feel like, Smell like, Taste like, Must be Sh*t, glad we did not step in!" Cheech n Chong
Apparently, some people leaving comments tend to believe that those in a position to buy an iPhone are drooling idiots who don't understand that when the host of a TV show plays a parody ad during their show that the host herself appears in while audience members (you know, the audience of the show) laugh in the background, it's not actually real. I know how seeing a corporate logo can totally throw you off... I mean, consider it: A snuff film that shows people being tortured with a Betty Crocker logo at the end. Oh my god, Betty Crocker, you monstrous corporate entity! I saw your LOGO! THERE'S NO WAY IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN YOU!
Oh well, they're the same people that probably would have peed their pants in crippling terror during an airing of War of the Worlds which, by the way, was also totally real.
We probably won't know who made her apologize, if anyone. It could have been someone not involved at all with Apple but with the show itself that thought it was a bad idea to make fun of an advertiser's product. Knowing Apple's reputation in the world of advertising and marketing, it seems probable that Apple wouldn't have to say anything for someone involved with the show to understand the "mistake" they made. Apple might have just called her up to reinforce the point, who knows. What I DO know is that it does look bad for Apple, whether they forced her to apologize or not.
At the end of the day, as long as we all don't say or do anything to anger the corporations or their diehard fans, we'll all be just fine.
Now, drugs are good, the new iMac is perfect cause yellow is the new white, oh!, and i7 laptops don't make the dough boy with the chef hat proud. I've got Macs dating back to, Hmm?, 7200 PowerMac and it's still energizer bunny strong. Took a warehouse full of 'em to do FX in Terminator2! Haven't had to fix permissions, run defrag, and all the other WONDERFULL host of please make my sh%t run apps that I'm doing on this WONDERFULL new and only approved by Apple Capitol "B" and Capitol "S" magical mirror crap! Please excuse my rant! or not! Now they're a What kind of company? Not my words- Steve'a'reno Jobs. "Big bag of hurt?" Google's got their mess running(according to this site and others) 200-300?% faster with FLASH! Yes, Drugs are good, I wish they would stop taking the ones microsoft's given them at Apple. Oh! War of the Worlds... I'm not like the priest who believed that god was gonna protect him from something that has an apparent lack of knowledge as to the inner workings of said God! No, He had a death wish, gonna go see the Man at last, hmmm,Did Mr. Jobs see The Man. suicides supposed to be a sin, Apple. I hope Ellen thinks about her pathetic apology and gets pis^ed at herself, then remembers the hamberger man. I"M NOT SORRY APPLE. Oh, and by the way, just jailbroke MY goods............ dr drift your close,man! We should be pi$$ed.
"I'm so sorry, I'm So,So very sorry............I'm not sorry..haa hhaaa haaaa" Remember Cheech and Chong!
Now, drugs are good, the new iMac is perfect cause yellow is the new white, oh!, and i7 laptops don't make the dough boy with the chef hat proud. I've got Macs dating back to, Hmm?, 7200 PowerMac and it's still energizer bunny strong. Took a warehouse full of 'em to do FX in Terminator2! Haven't had to fix permissions, run defrag, and all the other WONDERFULL host of please make my sh%t run apps that I'm doing on this WONDERFULL new and only approved by Apple Capitol "B" and Capitol "S" magical mirror crap! Please excuse my rant! or not! Now they're a What kind of company? Not my words- Steve'a'reno Jobs. "Big bag of hurt?" Google's got their mess running(according to this site and others) 200-300?% faster with FLASH! Yes, Drugs are good, I wish they would stop taking the ones microsoft's given them at Apple. Oh! War of the Worlds... I'm not like the priest who believed that god was gonna protect him from something that has an apparent lack of knowledge as to the inner workings of said God! No, He had a death wish, gonna go see the Man at last, hmmm,Did Mr. Jobs see The Man. suicides supposed to be a sin, Apple. I hope Ellen thinks about her pathetic apology and gets pis^ed at herself, then remembers the hamberger man. I"M NOT SORRY APPLE. Oh, and by the way, just jailbroke MY goods............ dr drift your close,man! We should be pi$$ed.
"I'm so sorry, I'm So,So very sorry............I'm not sorry..haa hhaaa haaaa" Remember Cheech and Chong!
Apple & Steve Jobs are the new A**Holes of the tech industry...
There was a time when Microsoft was seen as a bad guy, but as of late Google and Apple seem to be the new jerks of tech.
I haven't seen Google doing the asshatish stuff that Apple is doing lately.
Just as a single point of contrast, Google refused to give in to Chinese censorship, while Apple is modifying its Chinese iPhone in order to play footsie with a repressive government.
I haven't seen Google doing the asshatish stuff that Apple is doing lately.
Just as a single point of contrast, Google refused to give in to Chinese censorship, while Apple is modifying its Chinese iPhone in order to play footsie with a repressive government.
Google didn't refuse anything with regard to Chinese censorship. They went all in with that shit. Only when the Chinese got caught rifling through Googles systems did Google threaten to pull out...fulfiling this threat by moving to HK, a part of China and unblocking the censored sites. I have no doubt that Google will eventually 'come to terms' with China and resume their state ordered censoring.
Google has pulled their fair share of dick moves. Theirs just usually aren't the type that puts them in the character of a bully. Some of Apples moves lately certainly make it easier to paint them as a bully.
Google didn't refuse anything with regard to Chinese censorship. They went all in with that shit. Only when the Chinese got caught rifling through Googles systems did Google threaten to pull out...fulfiling this threat by moving to HK, a part of China and unblocking the censored sites. I have no doubt that Google will eventually 'come to terms' with China and resume their state ordered censoring.
Google has pulled their fair share of dick moves. Theirs just usually aren't the type that puts them in the character of a bully. Some of Apples moves lately certainly make it easier to paint them as a bully.
On top of that he's comparing search engine censorship to laws regarding HW. Always with the trolling that one.
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Congratulations, you completely missed the actual funny-point of the ad and managed to make a bigoted remark at the same time.
I figured she would be good with... multitouch...ing... something... lesbian...
... Well the pieces are there
You are likely right. If Apple complained at all, it was as an advertiser.
I don't think it is tactless her to do it, just because they are a sponsor. If she thought it was a worthwhile skit, it would sort of be selling out not to do it just because they are a sponsor. A sponsor buys your time and image. They might drop you if you piss them off, but I suppose integrity has a price.
You are right there, a price few are willing to pay! lol
On my old iPod I of course didn't have to look at the screen because it had tactile buttons.
You bet I stopped doing that. Thank goodness lesson learned and no harm done.
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Apple managment acts more and more like Scientology Church.
I don't think Apple is acting like them. Sometimes some of the fans can certainly share some of the traits of the adherents.
if you're too stoopid to use an iphone, you shouldn't brag about it...
It's called self deprecation. Just watch any of the comedic TV hosts and they all do it.
The only ones that needs to lighten up are the posters on this thread.
Word.
I figured she would be good with... multitouch...ing... something...
you either failed miserably at making a funny point, or you're a jerk.
back on topic: I'm in the school that believes we simply have no idea what really happened.
but guys, satire is criticism achieved by exaggeration: you want to take a shot at a corporation that packages small amounts of cereal in big boxes, you write about its next product being ten servings of cereal packed in refrigerator-sized boxes.
parody is satire through simulation: you make an ad pretending to be the cereal company's ad, showing a woman trying to squeeze the new cereal box through the front door; it won't fit so she breaks it open, starts filling bowls for the family--but by the time she gets to sissy the box runs out. mom and dad hoist the box overhead, shake it, peer inside, and one last flake falls out. fade to logo?
And given the poor execution, one couldn't really tell if the commercial was being serious or mocking.
Poor execution? It was clear to me she was making fun of herself, or technophobes in general, not the iPhone. She could have done the same joke with any smartphone, but if she's an Apple user herself, naturally she picked that one. I thought it was well done and funny.
There are so many "I'm a Mac / I'm a PC" parodies in YouTube, and there were parodies of the "switcher" ads before that, and I remember parodies of the "What's On Your PowerBook" magazine ads in the 90's ... so I would agree that since we don't know what conversation actually took place it's best not to assume Apple was trying to squelch it.
Dear Apple,
Instead of being huge jerks, you need to embrace Ellen's example. You need to show off your exceptional customer service at your stores. This is an opportunity to show Apple's capacity to assist someone as clumsy and ridiculous as Ellen's comedic persona!
Instead you sent the troglodyte to bash hammer on Ellen's head!
What's next Apple? Storm Troopers?
Hmmm... They do wear white plastic armor!
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Well is that all the information we're going to get?
I'd like to know what the actual basis (possibly legal) for Apple's complaint was and how she actually got the complaint, and exactly who at Apple did the complaining.
Note that she didn't simply "say" things or make claims about the iPhone, but rather, she actually demonstrated its physical use via a fake commercial aired on her show.
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You sir, are an idiot! As you display so well on many posts, on many threads!
"look like, feel like, Smell like, Taste like, Must be Sh*t, glad we did not step in!" Cheech n Chong
Oh well, they're the same people that probably would have peed their pants in crippling terror during an airing of War of the Worlds which, by the way, was also totally real.
We probably won't know who made her apologize, if anyone. It could have been someone not involved at all with Apple but with the show itself that thought it was a bad idea to make fun of an advertiser's product. Knowing Apple's reputation in the world of advertising and marketing, it seems probable that Apple wouldn't have to say anything for someone involved with the show to understand the "mistake" they made. Apple might have just called her up to reinforce the point, who knows. What I DO know is that it does look bad for Apple, whether they forced her to apologize or not.
At the end of the day, as long as we all don't say or do anything to anger the corporations or their diehard fans, we'll all be just fine.
There was a time when Microsoft was seen as a bad guy, but as of late Google and Apple seem to be the new jerks of tech.
Or is it just me?
This is up there with Disney slapping day cares with copyright infringements for painting mickey mouse on it's walls.
"I'm so sorry, I'm So,So very sorry............I'm not sorry..haa hhaaa haaaa" Remember Cheech and Chong!
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Now, drugs are good, the new iMac is perfect cause yellow is the new white, oh!, and i7 laptops don't make the dough boy with the chef hat proud. I've got Macs dating back to, Hmm?, 7200 PowerMac and it's still energizer bunny strong. Took a warehouse full of 'em to do FX in Terminator2! Haven't had to fix permissions, run defrag, and all the other WONDERFULL host of please make my sh%t run apps that I'm doing on this WONDERFULL new and only approved by Apple Capitol "B" and Capitol "S" magical mirror crap! Please excuse my rant! or not! Now they're a What kind of company? Not my words- Steve'a'reno Jobs. "Big bag of hurt?" Google's got their mess running(according to this site and others) 200-300?% faster with FLASH! Yes, Drugs are good, I wish they would stop taking the ones microsoft's given them at Apple. Oh! War of the Worlds... I'm not like the priest who believed that god was gonna protect him from something that has an apparent lack of knowledge as to the inner workings of said God! No, He had a death wish, gonna go see the Man at last, hmmm,Did Mr. Jobs see The Man. suicides supposed to be a sin, Apple. I hope Ellen thinks about her pathetic apology and gets pis^ed at herself, then remembers the hamberger man. I"M NOT SORRY APPLE. Oh, and by the way, just jailbroke MY goods............ dr drift your close,man! We should be pi$$ed.
"I'm so sorry, I'm So,So very sorry............I'm not sorry..haa hhaaa haaaa" Remember Cheech and Chong!
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Apple & Steve Jobs are the new A**Holes of the tech industry...
There was a time when Microsoft was seen as a bad guy, but as of late Google and Apple seem to be the new jerks of tech.
I haven't seen Google doing the asshatish stuff that Apple is doing lately.
Just as a single point of contrast, Google refused to give in to Chinese censorship, while Apple is modifying its Chinese iPhone in order to play footsie with a repressive government.
I haven't seen Google doing the asshatish stuff that Apple is doing lately.
Just as a single point of contrast, Google refused to give in to Chinese censorship, while Apple is modifying its Chinese iPhone in order to play footsie with a repressive government.
Google didn't refuse anything with regard to Chinese censorship. They went all in with that shit. Only when the Chinese got caught rifling through Googles systems did Google threaten to pull out...fulfiling this threat by moving to HK, a part of China and unblocking the censored sites. I have no doubt that Google will eventually 'come to terms' with China and resume their state ordered censoring.
Google has pulled their fair share of dick moves. Theirs just usually aren't the type that puts them in the character of a bully. Some of Apples moves lately certainly make it easier to paint them as a bully.
Google didn't refuse anything with regard to Chinese censorship. They went all in with that shit. Only when the Chinese got caught rifling through Googles systems did Google threaten to pull out...fulfiling this threat by moving to HK, a part of China and unblocking the censored sites. I have no doubt that Google will eventually 'come to terms' with China and resume their state ordered censoring.
Google has pulled their fair share of dick moves. Theirs just usually aren't the type that puts them in the character of a bully. Some of Apples moves lately certainly make it easier to paint them as a bully.
On top of that he's comparing search engine censorship to laws regarding HW. Always with the trolling that one.