And you know, Apple did such a lousy job of it, they forgot to copy the stylus! Out of embarrassment for Apple, Palm almost went bankrupt.
They also forgot to limit the input to one interaction. On top of that, they used capacitance with glass instead of having a resistive piece of plastic on top. Who does that? Surely Apple was just copying Palm's plans that were in place for the Palm Pre and WebOS long before the iPhone was even a concept.
Yes I know Apple is controlling but when I bought mine there was no alternative really
I bought my iPhone 2 years ago (2nd Gen not 3GS) my contract with ATT is up in July
I like iPhone quite lot but the deal breaker is I can't run Skype over 3G too bad - yes I know I can jail brake it but it runs too slow once jail broken.. (I've done it and went back)
[*]When did you buy your iPhone? Why did you buy an iPhone?[*]When did the first Android phone come out?
They also forgot to limit the input to one interaction. On top of that, they used capacitance with glass instead of having a resistive piece of plastic on top. Who does that? Surely Apple was just copying Palm's plans that were in place for the Palm Pre and WebOS long before the iPhone was even a concept.
My friend, I have seen this very speculation written by Palm fans. I recently read in a forum how Apple saw the announcement of the Pre and delayed shipping the 3GS so they could copy its innovations. This was given as an explanation for why Palm was being secretive about future hardware plans. Unbelievable!
Oh, of course. Why I remember when the iPhone was first introduced, all of the tech journalists, fans, and haters decried the iPhone as a copycat of the...
What phone or OS was it you said the iPhone copied?
Of course! Silly me. When I held my iPhone up next to that picture, I thought I was looking at a exact image of the iPhone. I noticed the grid pattern icons and the... the... um...
Tell me again how they are alike?
Here is a better question: Why does the Palm Pre look and act more like an iPhone than like any of its predecessors?
it would be interesting to know, how many people who receive a free phone then sign up for service for that phone and make a 2 year (guess) contract with the provider?
there may be lots of unused free phones sitting in the dust bins.
Those "free phones" aren't not actually free, as the account holder has to sign up for a second line to get that phone and has to pay for two lines of service.
Those "free phones" aren't not actually free, as the account holder has to sign up for a second line to get that phone and has to pay for two lines of service.
I think that is an important point. While the average price per device per handset vendor participating in BOGO sale is lower they are actual sales and should be considered as such.
I think that is an important point. While the average price per device per handset vendor participating in BOGO sale is lower they are actual sales and should be considered as such.
Sorry, heavily discounted to the point of giving stuff away along with the phone is not a sale in the same way that a full priced, premium item is a sale. Many of the phones end up being less than free after all the rebates and give aways. You are deluding yourself if you think that is equivalent to dropping $200-$300 on an iPhone.
I doubt there is any phone in the world that comes close to the "sales" of the iPhone. As for general adoption of a broad OS category... that is a different story.
Tell me, do you think any manufacturer would still be in business if Apple started giving away iPhones for free?
Tell me, do you think any manufacturer would still be in business if Apple started giving away iPhones for free?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. As much as I love my iPhone, Not everyone wants a smart phone. Not everyone needs a smartphone. Not everyone wants to pay for the data plan. Not everyone loves ATT.
Besides, you can get an iPhone for $99, which is not that much money. Thus, if the Apple were the phone that everyone REALLY wanted (which is the implication of the statement that ALL other phone makers would close up if Apple were to give phones away for free), then one would expect the sales numbers to be much much higher
we can all thank Apple for creating the best phone ever, but going forward, they insistence on one model of phone for everyone is going to cost them market share and profits down the road. oh wait, they do have a few colors to choose from, but really, one model, one carrier, one large profit for a relatively short time. Looks good right now, and oh yeah, look at the new iPad. But it's a long race and its time to think different over there.
Those "free phones" aren't not actually free, as the account holder has to sign up for a second line to get that phone and has to pay for two lines of service.
Or pay a $350 early termination fee per phone--customer's choice! It's all part of Verizon's open stance and the reason why Verizon would never want the iPhone.
Absolutely. As much as I love my iPhone, Not everyone wants a smart phone. Not everyone needs a smartphone. Not everyone wants to pay for the data plan. Not everyone loves ATT.
Besides, you can get an iPhone for $99, which is not that much money. Thus, if the Apple were the phone that everyone REALLY wanted (which is the implication of the statement that ALL other phone makers would close up if Apple were to give phones away for free), then one would expect the sales numbers to be much much higher
Let me be more clear. If Apple "sold" the iPhone along side its "peers" with the same "prices" and terms, in the same retail and online channels, on the same carriers, etc, I think those "peers" would be forced to close up shop the following day. Google had better thank their lucky starts there is no Verizon iPhone. In fact, they should be paying Apple to stay away.
Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.
Buy one get one free! You will see this very common in shopping malls in Asia!
wow. This piece of news sure ruffled some feathers.
I think the competition between google and apple is just getting primed. I'm sure we;ll see some roller coasters. But, competition, real competition, is good for consumers.
I really don't think the majority of consumers give a rats behind whether their phone has the latest os, is a "premium phone', or whatever thing to boast about. As long as android phones continue to compete, and improve, they'll continue to grow at a pretty good pace. I personally, wouldn't want to see any one of them totally dominate the mobile market. So good on android.
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You've been around long enough to know that Apple pretty much copied the idea of a touch-screen phone from Palm from early part of last decade.
And you know, Apple did such a lousy job of it, they forgot to copy the stylus! Out of embarrassment for Apple, Palm almost went bankrupt.
And you know, Apple did such a lousy job of it, they forgot to copy the stylus! Out of embarrassment for Apple, Palm almost went bankrupt.
They also forgot to limit the input to one interaction. On top of that, they used capacitance with glass instead of having a resistive piece of plastic on top. Who does that? Surely Apple was just copying Palm's plans that were in place for the Palm Pre and WebOS long before the iPhone was even a concept.
I bought my iPhone 2 years ago (2nd Gen not 3GS) my contract with ATT is up in July
I like iPhone quite lot but the deal breaker is I can't run Skype over 3G too bad - yes I know I can jail brake it but it runs too slow once jail broken.. (I've done it and went back)
[*]When did you buy your iPhone? Why did you buy an iPhone?[*]When did the first Android phone come out?
Good luck with that!
thank you I will keep you informed on how it goes and money I save
They also forgot to limit the input to one interaction. On top of that, they used capacitance with glass instead of having a resistive piece of plastic on top. Who does that? Surely Apple was just copying Palm's plans that were in place for the Palm Pre and WebOS long before the iPhone was even a concept.
My friend, I have seen this very speculation written by Palm fans. I recently read in a forum how Apple saw the announcement of the Pre and delayed shipping the 3GS so they could copy its innovations. This was given as an explanation for why Palm was being secretive about future hardware plans. Unbelievable!
Oh, of course. Why I remember when the iPhone was first introduced, all of the tech journalists, fans, and haters decried the iPhone as a copycat of the...
What phone or OS was it you said the iPhone copied?
He said PalmOS:
He said PalmOS:
Those resistive displays sure bring back memories!
He said PalmOS:
Of course! Silly me. When I held my iPhone up next to that picture, I thought I was looking at a exact image of the iPhone. I noticed the grid pattern icons and the... the... um...
Tell me again how they are alike?
Here is a better question: Why does the Palm Pre look and act more like an iPhone than like any of its predecessors?
You've been around long enough to know that Apple pretty much copied the idea of a touch-screen phone from Palm from early part of last decade.
This is straight historical revisionism.
The Apple Newton came out years before the first Palm model and the first Palm phone was many years after that. Your statement is simply not true.
it would be interesting to know, how many people who receive a free phone then sign up for service for that phone and make a 2 year (guess) contract with the provider?
there may be lots of unused free phones sitting in the dust bins.
Those "free phones" aren't not actually free, as the account holder has to sign up for a second line to get that phone and has to pay for two lines of service.
Those "free phones" aren't not actually free, as the account holder has to sign up for a second line to get that phone and has to pay for two lines of service.
I think that is an important point. While the average price per device per handset vendor participating in BOGO sale is lower they are actual sales and should be considered as such.
I think that is an important point. While the average price per device per handset vendor participating in BOGO sale is lower they are actual sales and should be considered as such.
Sorry, heavily discounted to the point of giving stuff away along with the phone is not a sale in the same way that a full priced, premium item is a sale. Many of the phones end up being less than free after all the rebates and give aways. You are deluding yourself if you think that is equivalent to dropping $200-$300 on an iPhone.
I doubt there is any phone in the world that comes close to the "sales" of the iPhone. As for general adoption of a broad OS category... that is a different story.
Tell me, do you think any manufacturer would still be in business if Apple started giving away iPhones for free?
Tell me, do you think any manufacturer would still be in business if Apple started giving away iPhones for free?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. As much as I love my iPhone, Not everyone wants a smart phone. Not everyone needs a smartphone. Not everyone wants to pay for the data plan. Not everyone loves ATT.
Besides, you can get an iPhone for $99, which is not that much money. Thus, if the Apple were the phone that everyone REALLY wanted (which is the implication of the statement that ALL other phone makers would close up if Apple were to give phones away for free), then one would expect the sales numbers to be much much higher
Those "free phones" aren't not actually free, as the account holder has to sign up for a second line to get that phone and has to pay for two lines of service.
Or pay a $350 early termination fee per phone--customer's choice! It's all part of Verizon's open stance and the reason why Verizon would never want the iPhone.
Absolutely. As much as I love my iPhone, Not everyone wants a smart phone. Not everyone needs a smartphone. Not everyone wants to pay for the data plan. Not everyone loves ATT.
Besides, you can get an iPhone for $99, which is not that much money. Thus, if the Apple were the phone that everyone REALLY wanted (which is the implication of the statement that ALL other phone makers would close up if Apple were to give phones away for free), then one would expect the sales numbers to be much much higher
Let me be more clear. If Apple "sold" the iPhone along side its "peers" with the same "prices" and terms, in the same retail and online channels, on the same carriers, etc, I think those "peers" would be forced to close up shop the following day. Google had better thank their lucky starts there is no Verizon iPhone. In fact, they should be paying Apple to stay away.
Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.
Buy one get one free! You will see this very common in shopping malls in Asia!
I think the competition between google and apple is just getting primed. I'm sure we;ll see some roller coasters. But, competition, real competition, is good for consumers.
I really don't think the majority of consumers give a rats behind whether their phone has the latest os, is a "premium phone', or whatever thing to boast about. As long as android phones continue to compete, and improve, they'll continue to grow at a pretty good pace. I personally, wouldn't want to see any one of them totally dominate the mobile market. So good on android.