Apple's iPhone market share three times greater than Android in US

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  • Reply 261 of 265
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,755member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Postulant View Post


    True. However, I still reserve the right to do it. And while Apple may not approve, there isn't much they can do to prevent me.



    Sure there is. If they were really concerned they could file DMCA complaints.



    I'm suspecting the current jailbreak holes will be closed in the upcoming hardware and software, and probably on the 3GS as well as the hardware is there, the current issues are in software implementations.



    Of course, Apple will be derided for removing features (i.e. jail breaking) that they never promised and routinely warned people not to do



    Furthermore Apple will be the evil ones for forcing them to buy Apple hardware that no longer does something Apple never promised in the first place



    it's enough to make your head explode
  • Reply 262 of 265
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,755member
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    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post


    Sorry about this long and rather labored (perhaps tortured) analogy, but I had to get it off my chest. Where better than here where I'm sure it'll draw some colorful responses.



    Don't be sorry - I think it's a brilliant post and the best analogy I have seen to date!



    Thanks!
  • Reply 263 of 265
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,755member
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    Originally Posted by jfanning View Post


    Can you please provide a full list of all features you think are missing from Symbian (s60 is the ui) that means it shouldn't be classed as a smartphone OS?



    Features in a vacuum are pretty meaningless, so clinging to that as a measure is pretty silly, no?



    For me, data points like browser usage tell me more than a feature list. I could call a dog turd fillet mignon but it would still be a dog turd.



    So what are symbian's browser usage stats compared to the iPhone or even Android? Last time I paid attention they were pretty abysmal - much like windows mobile's stats (and having come to the iPhone from winmo, I fully understand WHY winmo has non-existent usage stats). Have they done something to dramatically change that, and if so where is that change reflected in real world usage?



    if there are features (like a web browser) that are not used, then what's the value of counting it as a "feature"? Labels in and of themselves are pretty meaningless, yet it never ceases to amaze me how much time is wasted over parsing them. To quote another meat themed saying, "where's the beef?!"
  • Reply 264 of 265
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,755member
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    Originally Posted by franksmith22 View Post


    Have you ever heard of Sony's Playstation or Nintendo's Wii?



    No kidding. Also what is often overlooked is the general computing experience (even on Mac OS X) is definitely NOT helped because of cross developer tools.



    I fail to see how a tool that makes a developers life easier but gives me a crappy and sub-par experience (*cough* Adobe *cough*) is of benefit to me.



    Do I even get a discount for that crappy and sub-par experience vs a windows user who has a more consistent user experience? Hell no!



    And people are honestly having a hard time understanding why Apple wants a different model for the iOS devices?



    Seriously?



    I think the smart developers that are complaining do understand, they just don't care as it makes life harder for them. Oh well. It's already a non issue for the good developers since instead of complaining they are writing good apps and making money.



    Snooze you loose!



    Frankly Apple is probably relieved developers that can't be bothered to learn the native tools won't be in the app store. They never have been about quantity vs quality, despite all of the fart app jokes.
  • Reply 265 of 265
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,755member
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    Originally Posted by Stevie View Post


    You can buy different version of Windows too. XP is still selling well, for example. Even Windows 7 comes in different versions for different devices.



    Windows is a coherent thing. So is Android.



    Not even close. None of your examples are relevant - they are different versions of a monolithic os from one company.



    Android is closer to the DOS days when there were manufacturer specific versions of DOS with their own idiosyncroncies. Any one who lived through that era will tell you how fun that was - NOT!



    Android is just like competing linux distributions. A fragmented, balkanized mess that is a user experience nightmare that non-geeks will loath. And I predict long term it will be about as successful. Actually it will be more successful in unit sales because at the end of the day a cheap Android phone is still a phone. But will Android have the app profit potential that the iPhone has now? It hasn't materialized yet... And without that ecosystem, "just" a tablet is pretty un-compelling compared to the iPad as well.
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