First, it's totally worthless to test the durability of a device when a major part of it is missing.
And second, if they only were able to get a partial phone (?) how do we know that it is the final shipping materials and not an early prototype made of something else?
That shatter pattern doesn't look right. It seems more like there was a single impact in the upper right corner, more like a hammer than a drop from some height. This is hinky, and I'm choosing to ignore this claim of theirs.
I'm not making any accusations. I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if the "reputable company" was not hastily put together for this very purpose. Further, wouldn't it be interesting is said company was owned by Google, MS, HTC? Raising durability fears is the only weapon these guys have left.
I don't know that it's that much but the site is questionable.
There's spelling and grammar mistake all over it.
It's made on Wordpress which I'm fairly sure you can back date entries just like on Blogger so were those Jan 2010 entries really written then? Hard to know
They offer services that are questionable as they are not done by Apple or any other Apple authorized provider. They don't mention being an AASP either. So anything they do would void your warranty.
They are clueless about tech to the point that they have no clue about 'real world testing' and make a firm statement that Apple leaked the phone etc.
There are several opinion sites that are missing them or have them ranked in the far reaches.
The site owner, according to whois, has 45 other domains. I'm guessing they all hawk his services.
He's been known to hit up boards, especially on Apple and refer folks to this great company, which saying it is his.
Forget about the iPhone. This test is more concerning to the hundreds of thousands of people who ride in bullet trains using this type of glass! It's too bad no one conducted such a test before they started using this glass.
After studying crack lines from the picture, more like it's been abused. reminds me when ipad released some dude drop and hit it in front of best buy store and was that bad like this post pictured. as we know ipad is a lot heavier than iphone.
that just from a stupid dudes try to put their name out as ifixyouri? plain stupid.
This test is Moot. a non-fully assembled phone, no control subject, no details on the test, no video, and a website that is clearly non original by trying to play off of iFixit's name.
The test is about as good as the iPad test performed by the mentally handicapped guy at PC World.
NExt we will find out that the new iPhone can't hold up to hot coffee and being run under water.
Here is an idea, they got this somewhere, and it has no internal components, what could this have been for, it is probably an ID mock up for photo shoots and visual demo's so who is to say the glass on the front is the final product it maybe some cheep glass they made up for this mock up.
For those of you who read into this, you are more of an moron than those at ifixiyouri.
Not sure what their motivation is, but what would someone attempt to smash a mock they just got their hands on, there is probably lots of things you could have done first but these idiot choose attempt to smash it on the ground.
The case has no internal components, nothing to sure up the glass, LOL, it's a hollow glass box they dropped (threw?) down until it broke, hardly a real world test. What a joke.
oh wait they ifixyouri has a 4G glass repair kit, how did they come up with that already. Maybe the glass that broke in their light FUD demo was they cheap glass they are temping to sell people.
They even will fix your phone that took a swim, they charge you $100 to put it in an oven at low humidity and dry it out for you... People you can do this yourself in your own oven by setting to 125C to 150C and dry it out over a few hours and if you are lucky nothing shorted out and it works again.
Sure would be nice if people were able to differentiate between "30 times harder than plastic" and "30 times stronger than plastic". Doesn't take much to be harder than plastic - hell, plate glass is harder than most (unhardened) steel! The PCWorld articles quotes Apple as saying, "20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic." They didn't use the word "stronger". If someone has a link to where Apple calls the glass "30 times stronger than plastic," I'd like to read that directly.
I came to mention the same thing. I don't mind Apple stating it's harder as that counts when you are referring to scratching. I also don't mind Apple's marketing clouding the issue a bit. However, I would have expected AI, on and article about strength not including the comment about hardness.
I seem to recall Jon Ives stating that it's (paraphsaing) "it's comprable to sapphire crystal in strength and 30 times harder than plastic." I have no idea how strong sapphire is but I seem to recall it scores a 9 on the Moh's hardness scale, just under diamond. Like I said, i'm find with the fancy buzzwords and marketing doublespeak so long as it's technically accurate.
Still, I've never had a problem with my iPhone cracking and I assume this one will be even stronger.
One application of synthetic sapphire is sapphire glass. Here glass is a layman term which refers not to the amorphous state, but to the transparency. Sapphire is not only highly transparent to wavelengths of light between 170 nm to 5.3 μm (the human eye can discern wavelengths from about 380 nm to 750 nm[26]), but it is also five times stronger than glass and ranks a 9 on the Mohs Scale, and much tougher than tempered glass although not as much as synthetic stabilized zirconium oxide (such as yttria-stabilized zirconia). Along with zirconia and aluminium oxynitride, synthetic sapphire is used for shatter resistant windows in armored vehicles and various military body armor suits, in association with composites. Sapphire "glass" (although being crystalline) is made from pure sapphire boules by slicing off and polishing thin wafers. Sapphire glass windows are used in high pressure chambers for spectroscopy, crystals in high quality watches, and windows in grocery store barcode scanners since the material's exceptional hardness and toughness makes it very resistant to scratching.
All the breakthrough technology in iPhone 4 is situated between two glossy panels of aluminosilicate glass — the same type of glass used in the windshields of helicopters and high-speed trains. Chemically strengthened to be 20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic, the glass is ultradurable and more scratch resistant than ever. It’s also recyclable.
Check this out. My friend is an industrial designer. He said those marks are caused by a small Dead Blow Hammer.
You can SEE the hammer head in the upper right hand corner of the unit. They used a hammer on the screen for sure. He uses these hammers on glass and plastic plates every day to test out durability and says this site ain't fooling no one. Someone straight shotted this unit with a hammer. Any fool can tell if you are educated about industrial materials.
My wife dropped an old iPhone on the sidewalk once and it shattered the glass. Since then we have always had a rubber on the iphones and haven't lost anymore after many drops.
I would never have one of these very expensive gadgets out in the world without a rubber.
Why are these bogus companies seem to be coming out of FL this is like another www.psystar.com and this guy owns a bunch of i(insertname).com companies.
Garbage article. I can't see any value in an unsubstantiated claim by some party out there in the world. Was it posted here simply for advertising revenue from traffic? At least some token throwaway suggestion was added to take it with a grain of salt...
If it was that fragile there's no way Apple would have allowed it to reach production. The PR would be too terrible. We'll get a good idea of how durable it is once it actually hits consumers.
Looks like an early prototype shell with the screw holes on the bottom. For all we know it was just "normal" glass in the early prototypes. Being empty would significantly weaken the glass since it has very little support. What a moronic thing to do... Get an early proto and break it for no reason beyond attention whoring.
Nope, the real deal has the screws back - seems the one without the screws was the prototype. Or maybe both were and they chose the one with screws as easier to manufacture/stronger or whatever.
You know... if an article has 80 replies to it already, there is just a possible chance that someone has already posted what you are about to type.
So before telling us all how bogus this article is because the case is empty, perhaps you could notice that like 20 other people have already reiterated that?
But of course, if you're not going to read the last 80 posts, you're not going to read this either. So just post whatever is on your mind and expect everyone to read your post, even though you haven't read theirs.
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First, it's totally worthless to test the durability of a device when a major part of it is missing.
And second, if they only were able to get a partial phone (?) how do we know that it is the final shipping materials and not an early prototype made of something else?
I'm surprised AI even ran this.
I'm not making any accusations. I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if the "reputable company" was not hastily put together for this very purpose. Further, wouldn't it be interesting is said company was owned by Google, MS, HTC? Raising durability fears is the only weapon these guys have left.
I don't know that it's that much but the site is questionable.
There's spelling and grammar mistake all over it.
It's made on Wordpress which I'm fairly sure you can back date entries just like on Blogger so were those Jan 2010 entries really written then? Hard to know
They offer services that are questionable as they are not done by Apple or any other Apple authorized provider. They don't mention being an AASP either. So anything they do would void your warranty.
They are clueless about tech to the point that they have no clue about 'real world testing' and make a firm statement that Apple leaked the phone etc.
There are several opinion sites that are missing them or have them ranked in the far reaches.
The site owner, according to whois, has 45 other domains. I'm guessing they all hawk his services.
He's been known to hit up boards, especially on Apple and refer folks to this great company, which saying it is his.
that just from a stupid dudes try to put their name out as ifixyouri? plain stupid.
The test is about as good as the iPad test performed by the mentally handicapped guy at PC World.
NExt we will find out that the new iPhone can't hold up to hot coffee and being run under water.
For those of you who read into this, you are more of an moron than those at ifixiyouri.
Not sure what their motivation is, but what would someone attempt to smash a mock they just got their hands on, there is probably lots of things you could have done first but these idiot choose attempt to smash it on the ground.
http://www.ifixyouri.com/36-iphone-4g-glass-repair-kit
They even will fix your phone that took a swim, they charge you $100 to put it in an oven at low humidity and dry it out for you... People you can do this yourself in your own oven by setting to 125C to 150C and dry it out over a few hours and if you are lucky nothing shorted out and it works again.
Sure would be nice if people were able to differentiate between "30 times harder than plastic" and "30 times stronger than plastic". Doesn't take much to be harder than plastic - hell, plate glass is harder than most (unhardened) steel! The PCWorld articles quotes Apple as saying, "20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic." They didn't use the word "stronger". If someone has a link to where Apple calls the glass "30 times stronger than plastic," I'd like to read that directly.
I came to mention the same thing. I don't mind Apple stating it's harder as that counts when you are referring to scratching. I also don't mind Apple's marketing clouding the issue a bit. However, I would have expected AI, on and article about strength not including the comment about hardness.
I seem to recall Jon Ives stating that it's (paraphsaing) "it's comprable to sapphire crystal in strength and 30 times harder than plastic." I have no idea how strong sapphire is but I seem to recall it scores a 9 on the Moh's hardness scale, just under diamond. Like I said, i'm find with the fancy buzzwords and marketing doublespeak so long as it's technically accurate.
Still, I've never had a problem with my iPhone cracking and I assume this one will be even stronger.
edit: I found this nugget on Wikipedia: edit 2: Apple's website states:I have to think that it's pretty damn strong.
You can SEE the hammer head in the upper right hand corner of the unit. They used a hammer on the screen for sure. He uses these hammers on glass and plastic plates every day to test out durability and says this site ain't fooling no one. Someone straight shotted this unit with a hammer. Any fool can tell if you are educated about industrial materials.
http://www.labsafety.com/images/xl/E..._LBM74728Z.jpg
There's your culprit; again, the hammer head imprint is in the upper right corner.
Yeah, I was shocked at the cost of those. Should be $5.99. At least it isn't a sock.
Well, it is Apple. You other "designer" products, you may a large premium for the name.
Personally, I'd like to see tests from more respected sources on the 4's durability.
I would never have one of these very expensive gadgets out in the world without a rubber.
Umm, the unit has no buttons so this suggests it wasn't a fully assembled unit.
Of course it wasn't a fully assembled unit. Did you read the article?
It states, "a complete iPhone 4 shell with its glass face in tact, but minus its internal componentry".
It may be therefore possible, that the screen was damaged prior to fitting
Fitting of what? It was an empty shell.
they were all started up in a last few months
If it was that fragile there's no way Apple would have allowed it to reach production. The PR would be too terrible. We'll get a good idea of how durable it is once it actually hits consumers.
Where did you see the glass being bent by Apple?
I saw it at http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/#design-video
around 5:20.
Pretty impressive to bend like that and be hard too.
I just want to know, Will It Blend?
Looks like an early prototype shell with the screw holes on the bottom. For all we know it was just "normal" glass in the early prototypes. Being empty would significantly weaken the glass since it has very little support. What a moronic thing to do... Get an early proto and break it for no reason beyond attention whoring.
Nope, the real deal has the screws back - seems the one without the screws was the prototype. Or maybe both were and they chose the one with screws as easier to manufacture/stronger or whatever.
So before telling us all how bogus this article is because the case is empty, perhaps you could notice that like 20 other people have already reiterated that?
But of course, if you're not going to read the last 80 posts, you're not going to read this either. So just post whatever is on your mind and expect everyone to read your post, even though you haven't read theirs.