I really don't trust this story as there is something odd about it especially considering the lack of internals. Apple is using Corning's Gorilla Glass. Even if it is legitimate, the structural integrity of device must have compromised by the removal of internals. Some videos show exactly how tough Gorilla Glass is:
Nevertheless, the firm is using the experiment to generate attention and challenge Apple's stated claim that the iPhone 4's all-new design and build quality are "like no other mobile device."
It seems clear that they are using the experiment only to gain publicity.
Tensile strength (the bending) and shear strength (drop it on an edge) are pretty different. shear strength for any glass is much, much lower than tensile strength.
Ah. Guess I should learn some of that there stuff they call Science before I open my big yapper
You know... if an article has 80 replies to it already, there is just a possible chance that someone has already posted what you are about to type.
So before telling us all how bogus this article is because the case is empty, perhaps you could notice that like 20 other people have already reiterated that?
But of course, if you're not going to read the last 80 posts, you're not going to read this either. So just post whatever is on your mind and expect everyone to read your post, even though you haven't read theirs.
While Apple's "plunger" demonstration was a very cool and interesting way to demonstrate the new glass, it alone does not assuage the failure mode that most people will experience when they break the glass. I would venture to say that most people, when breaking the iPhone glass, enact a shock load on the surface, usually through a drop. That's where I would want to see an example from Apple. Not how much does it bend, but at what PSI will the glass crack. I'm much more likely to drop the phone onto pavement or a rock than I am to sit on it, causing it to bend enough to shatter the glass.
Here is an idea, they got this somewhere, and it has no internal components, what could this have been for, it is probably an ID mock up for photo shoots and visual demo's so who is to say the glass on the front is the final product it maybe some cheep glass they made up for this mock up.
For those of you who read into this, you are more of an moron than those at ifixiyouri.
Not sure what their motivation is, but what would someone attempt to smash a mock they just got their hands on, there is probably lots of things you could have done first but these idiot choose attempt to smash it on the ground.
Considering the Company is called "ifixyouri", I think the motivation is fairly obvious.
AI, why even post this story. The test is not on video so that we can see for ourselves. The lame photo looks like it was struck and not dropped. Even if it was dropped, could a 3 foot fall really cause that damage? and with no impact marks on the frame?
Why not save some credibility and put a warning at the top that says "This is an Advertisement"? Because that is all this is, a publicity stunt.
Is the glass going to be easier to replace since it is on top instead of recessed?
Although I did read the lcd is closer to the glass this time - maybe even fused together with the glass? That might make it more difficult to replace.
I suppose the bumpers say it all. Protect your $600 phone.
During the iPhone video, when they were showing the manufacturing process, they specifically said the glass is laminated to the screen surface to reduce light refraction and maximize the viewing angle.
I have to point out though that your emphasis on "girls" and "girls schools" is wrong. These are known sociological effects that have pretty much nothing to do with gender. It's humans that are easily fooled and misled, not a particular gender.
Yeah, I got gender specific with some trepidation. At the risk of offending, as a parent and teacher I have observed that girls are more emotionally labile, particularly in adolescence, than boys. Even in adulthood men are often less "in touch" with their emotions than women--at least many women say so.
Having said that, I agree with you that the effect I was describing is universal. That's why I included boys at one point in my example. Glad you enjoyed it!
They put the hollow iphone onto a concrete floor. They then took a hammer drill, the ones construction workers use, to do their test.
They took the hammer drill up about three feet and then dropped it onto the iphone, thus making their claim of SOMETHING dropped 3 feet the truth.
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This post is bogus. Notice that the unit does not have volume buttons, nor does it have a mute button. This leads me to believe that the unit is hollow, and therefore had no real display behind the glass when it was dropped. Also, the shatter pattern indicates that the unit was struck multiple times in different locations. Find the cracks and trace them back to the central points. There are at least 3 separate strikes on the screen which tells me it was not dropped, but beaten intentionally at the attempt to break the screen. This could also, in theory, have been the reason the side buttons fell out.
Yea same here. 3 or 4 weeks into owning my 3G, I rested it on my lap as I was driving, forgot it was there and got out of the car My iPhone landed on the gravely parking lot ground and I nearly had a heart attack. The bezel was quite marred, but the glass was spotless!
Two weeks after buying my 3GS, the Home button stopped working. I went to the Apple store, and they refused warranty service, because of the moisture indicators. This was before all the bad publicity, and so I thought I had no choice but to pay $200 for a refurb.
So as long as I was paying for a refurb, I decided to test the almost-brand-new defective 3GS's impact resistance. I threw it down hard onto asphalt. Many times.
The first few times it survived. But when it hit on a corner, the glass shattered. The plastic case did not do well with the "abrade on concrete" test either.
It was interesting. And so long as I was getting screwed by Apple, I had no desire to give a device back to Apple that needed only a new button in order for them to refurb and resell.
My 3G S fell out of my shorts pocket onto a concrete floor as I stood up once. Couple of scratches on the case and bevel as it bounced (and let me tell you, those things can bounce!), and the SIM card holder popped out, but the glass stayed intact. I was quite impressed.
Diito here. I've had my phone drop a dozen times out of my pocket onto concrete and only now does the glass have a small Nick and almost noticeable hairline crack. The 3G is surprisingly durable.
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http://engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-...for-your-amus/
Nevertheless, the firm is using the experiment to generate attention and challenge Apple's stated claim that the iPhone 4's all-new design and build quality are "like no other mobile device."
It seems clear that they are using the experiment only to gain publicity.
I don't know that it's that much but the site is questionable.
There's spelling and grammar mistake all over it.
The irony is absolutely scintillating.
Because this will be A LOT cheaper for apple, then trashing all the phone already made or sold.
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Tensile strength (the bending) and shear strength (drop it on an edge) are pretty different. shear strength for any glass is much, much lower than tensile strength.
Ah. Guess I should learn some of that there stuff they call Science before I open my big yapper
You know... if an article has 80 replies to it already, there is just a possible chance that someone has already posted what you are about to type.
So before telling us all how bogus this article is because the case is empty, perhaps you could notice that like 20 other people have already reiterated that?
But of course, if you're not going to read the last 80 posts, you're not going to read this either. So just post whatever is on your mind and expect everyone to read your post, even though you haven't read theirs.
Welcome to ANY FORUM ON THE INTERNET.
It seems clear that they are using the experiment only to gain publicity.
"Experiment"? Clearly elementary school somehow evaded the "Experimentalists".
Here is an idea, they got this somewhere, and it has no internal components, what could this have been for, it is probably an ID mock up for photo shoots and visual demo's so who is to say the glass on the front is the final product it maybe some cheep glass they made up for this mock up.
For those of you who read into this, you are more of an moron than those at ifixiyouri.
Not sure what their motivation is, but what would someone attempt to smash a mock they just got their hands on, there is probably lots of things you could have done first but these idiot choose attempt to smash it on the ground.
Considering the Company is called "ifixyouri", I think the motivation is fairly obvious.
I was all smiles until the price of the rubber ring was revealed. Is Macfixit going to do an analysis on that and find it costs Apple 1.7 cents?
So what? A hundred competitors will step in to undercut them.
I was all smiles until the price of the rubber ring was revealed.
I was really pumped watching the presentation. So much innovation. But once again, rubber has found a way to slightly deaden my joy.
Multiple double entrede not intended? Rubber ring? Pumped? Rubber... deaden joy?
You shouldn't really discuss your sex life on a Mac forum...
Is there video? I want to see the video!
Where did you see the glass being bent by Apple?
See the "Design" video on Apples site:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/
Why not save some credibility and put a warning at the top that says "This is an Advertisement"? Because that is all this is, a publicity stunt.
Is the glass going to be easier to replace since it is on top instead of recessed?
Although I did read the lcd is closer to the glass this time - maybe even fused together with the glass? That might make it more difficult to replace.
I suppose the bumpers say it all. Protect your $600 phone.
During the iPhone video, when they were showing the manufacturing process, they specifically said the glass is laminated to the screen surface to reduce light refraction and maximize the viewing angle.
Love this stuff.
I have to point out though that your emphasis on "girls" and "girls schools" is wrong. These are known sociological effects that have pretty much nothing to do with gender. It's humans that are easily fooled and misled, not a particular gender.
Yeah, I got gender specific with some trepidation. At the risk of offending, as a parent and teacher I have observed that girls are more emotionally labile, particularly in adolescence, than boys. Even in adulthood men are often less "in touch" with their emotions than women--at least many women say so.
Having said that, I agree with you that the effect I was describing is universal. That's why I included boys at one point in my example. Glad you enjoyed it!
They put the hollow iphone onto a concrete floor. They then took a hammer drill, the ones construction workers use, to do their test.
They took the hammer drill up about three feet and then dropped it onto the iphone, thus making their claim of SOMETHING dropped 3 feet the truth.
This post is bogus. Notice that the unit does not have volume buttons, nor does it have a mute button. This leads me to believe that the unit is hollow, and therefore had no real display behind the glass when it was dropped. Also, the shatter pattern indicates that the unit was struck multiple times in different locations. Find the cracks and trace them back to the central points. There are at least 3 separate strikes on the screen which tells me it was not dropped, but beaten intentionally at the attempt to break the screen. This could also, in theory, have been the reason the side buttons fell out.
Bogus post. Embarrassing for AppleInsider.
Yea same here. 3 or 4 weeks into owning my 3G, I rested it on my lap as I was driving, forgot it was there and got out of the car
Two weeks after buying my 3GS, the Home button stopped working. I went to the Apple store, and they refused warranty service, because of the moisture indicators. This was before all the bad publicity, and so I thought I had no choice but to pay $200 for a refurb.
So as long as I was paying for a refurb, I decided to test the almost-brand-new defective 3GS's impact resistance. I threw it down hard onto asphalt. Many times.
The first few times it survived. But when it hit on a corner, the glass shattered. The plastic case did not do well with the "abrade on concrete" test either.
It was interesting. And so long as I was getting screwed by Apple, I had no desire to give a device back to Apple that needed only a new button in order for them to refurb and resell.
My 3G S fell out of my shorts pocket onto a concrete floor as I stood up once. Couple of scratches on the case and bevel as it bounced (and let me tell you, those things can bounce!), and the SIM card holder popped out, but the glass stayed intact. I was quite impressed.
Diito here. I've had my phone drop a dozen times out of my pocket onto concrete and only now does the glass have a small Nick and almost noticeable hairline crack. The 3G is surprisingly durable.