Lovin' the new features. The only thing I hate is how the iPod Touch 2nd Gen doesn't get multitasking or home screen wallpapers. I mean come on, how hard is it to render a picture over icons!?
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Originally Posted by alexhasfun28
One of the most improved software (and hardware) updates to date. Unlike, Google, Apple likes to 'WOW'! people with their yearly software update, not weekly update of the still sluggish here-and-there software(Android).
Oh, and i'm first
Right, because Android doesn't have multitasking or home screen wallpapers. </sarcasm> Its just an OS.
Lovin' the new features. The only thing I hate is how the iPod Touch 2nd Gen doesn't get multitasking or home screen wallpapers. I mean come on, how hard is it to render a picture over icons!?
Right, because Android doesn't have multitasking or home screen wallpapers. </sarcasm> Its just an OS.
i tried a Nexus One with Froyo 2.2 for about 3 days before i went back to my 3Gs.....
Lovin' the new features. The only thing I hate is how the iPod Touch 2nd Gen doesn't get multitasking or home screen wallpapers. I mean come on, how hard is it to render a picture over icons!?
It's a RAM memory issue. iPhone 3G and iPodTouch 2G only have 128 Mbytes of RAM. Implementing either or both of these features would eat into that Valuable RAM space too much and make the device sluggish.
Although it is possible to achieve via jailbreaking, if you don't mind occasional crashes.
Interesting. I had no idea - surely Gizmodo hasn't been lying to me.
I think when talking about Android people want to sound balanced, impartial and do not, under any circumstances be branded with the dreaded F word (fanboy).
So they overcompensate and end up exaggerating the importance of minor advantages Android had over iPhone while ignoring more significant and problematic flaws.
The other thing which bothers me about Android is that Google says 2x - 5x speed ups in Froyo. Yet many phones are artificially limited from upgrading to Froyo, either because the vendor hasn't felt like/got round to updating its custom skin, or the carrier hasn't pushed the update or some other reason.
So there is a huge number of Android devices out there which are artificially capped in performance thanks to poor software optimisations (if you can get 2x improvements on the same hardware that to me suggests the VM wasn't very well optimised to begin with**). If Apple had the same problem there would be a riot, yet for Android it gets a free pass.
** Off topic but in the interests of balance: the same logic applies to Snow Leopard. Some of the improvements there were a result of things being rushed to finished in Leopard.
i tried a Nexus One with Froyo 2.2 for about 3 days before i went back to my 3Gs.....
there is absolutely NO comparison. iPhone FTW!!!!
No offense but, your comment is pretty predictable. Especially the last sentence.
I mean, I understand this is an Apple website and all. However, there is such thing as preferring Macs while liking a different phone OS (ie. me), or vice versa. So while, yes, iOS is great, I personally feel that there is an comparison after trying Android. Which isn't a bad thing.
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The other thing which bothers me about Android is that Google says 2x - 5x speed ups in Froyo. Yet many phones are artificially limited from upgrading to Froyo, either because the vendor hasn't felt like/got round to updating its custom skin, or the carrier hasn't pushed the update or some other reason.
Froyo isn't officially out yet for the public, just the Nexus One. On another note, what does faster OS speeds haft to do with OEMs updating their to the latest OS?
[QUOTE=Zc456;1657097]Froyo isn't officially out yet for the public, just the Nexus One. /QUOTE]
It's really funny to hear the Android fans say that fragmentation isn't a problem. My daughter just received a Motorola Backflip last week - and it's running Android 1.5. Motorola says that they hope to be able to update it to 2.1 'some day', but they're not even talking about 2.2. And that even assumes that the carrier supports it.
It's really funny to hear the Android fans say that fragmentation isn't a problem. My daughter just received a Motorola Backflip last week - and it's running Android 1.5. Motorola says that they hope to be able to update it to 2.1 'some day', but they're not even talking about 2.2. And that even assumes that the carrier supports it.
Sigh... like I said, Froyo isn't out for the public yet. As for your daughter being stuck with 1.5, most Android applications still support the older versions. So it really isn't that big of a deal.
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Originally Posted by womble2k2
It's a RAM memory issue. iPhone 3G and iPodTouch 2G only have 128 Mbytes of RAM. Implementing either or both of these features would eat into that Valuable RAM space too much and make the device sluggish.
Although it is possible to achieve via jailbreaking, if you don't mind occasional crashes.
Phil
I'm actually not all up and in arms about multitasking as you may think, otherwise I would have gone on about that next. Its just wallpaper kinda bugging me. I've actually always thought Push Notifications was a welcome edition.
Sigh... like I said, Froyo isn't out for the public yet. As for your daughter being stuck with 1.5, most Android applications still support the older versions. So it really isn't that big of a deal.
I've got a Hero stuck on 1.5. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it is lacking a lot. The update to 2.1 is coming this month though, finally.
The speed up with 2.2 might not apply to those phones that are ARM11 based like the Hero. All the newer phones are Cortex A8 based though, so not a problem for them.
I'm just wondering whether to update today/tonight, or let this cook out in the wild for a week or so before upgrading? I've had great results on my MacPro at home with updates and upgrades, but this will be my first time thru a major upgrade on the iPhone. I have to say though that the new features sound incredibly enticing, especially being able to background audio apps. Maybe I can finally listen to Slacker/Pandora while running with iMapMyRun going.
What the he'll are you all counting down to? The moment in which you wont be able to use a single damn feature of os 4 because there has been no effort of the part of developers or apple to get app store apps ready? Be prepared for disappointment because you are not going to see a bunch of updates suddenly appear after the os goes live. Its going to be a long sad launch with bad PR.
I'm just wondering whether to update today/tonight, or let this cook out in the wild for a week or so before upgrading? I've had great results on my MacPro at home with updates and upgrades, but this will be my first time thru a major upgrade on the iPhone. I have to say though that the new features sound incredibly enticing, especially being able to background audio apps. Maybe I can finally listen to Slacker/Pandora while running with iMapMyRun going.
WTF are you debating? Its just software. Run the update, use it. End of "dilemma"
I'm just wondering whether to update today/tonight, or let this cook out in the wild for a week or so before upgrading? I've had great results on my MacPro at home with updates and upgrades, but this will be my first time thru a major upgrade on the iPhone. I have to say though that the new features sound incredibly enticing, especially being able to background audio apps. Maybe I can finally listen to Slacker/Pandora while running with iMapMyRun going.
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What the he'll are you all counting down to? The moment in which you wont be able to use a single damn feature of os 4 because there has been no effort of the part of developers or apple to get app store apps ready? Be prepared for disappointment because you are not going to see a bunch of updates suddenly appear after the os goes live. Its going to be a long sad launch with bad PR.
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Originally Posted by pmz
WTF are you debating? Its just software. Run the update, use it. End of "dilemma"
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One of the most improved software (and hardware) updates to date. Unlike, Google, Apple likes to 'WOW'! people with their yearly software update, not weekly update of the still sluggish here-and-there software(Android).
Oh, and i'm first
Right, because Android doesn't have multitasking or home screen wallpapers. </sarcasm> Its just an OS.
Lovin' the new features. The only thing I hate is how the iPod Touch 2nd Gen doesn't get multitasking or home screen wallpapers. I mean come on, how hard is it to render a picture over icons!?
Right, because Android doesn't have multitasking or home screen wallpapers. </sarcasm> Its just an OS.
i tried a Nexus One with Froyo 2.2 for about 3 days before i went back to my 3Gs.....
there is absolutely NO comparison. iPhone FTW!!!!
the sun bow;s and move s over for the silver moon dream land scape to rule over world
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the world cycle clicked again and apple just landed a fantastic ios 4
no matter how many cycles we click android will never
catch the silver moon beams lighting our apple world
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Lovin' the new features. The only thing I hate is how the iPod Touch 2nd Gen doesn't get multitasking or home screen wallpapers. I mean come on, how hard is it to render a picture over icons!?
It's a RAM memory issue. iPhone 3G and iPodTouch 2G only have 128 Mbytes of RAM. Implementing either or both of these features would eat into that Valuable RAM space too much and make the device sluggish.
Although it is possible to achieve via jailbreaking, if you don't mind occasional crashes.
Phil
Until Apple announces it, it isn't official.
iOS 4 Software Update COMING SOON
http://www.apple.com/iphone/softwareupdate/
And the last time I looked, a day is still composed of 24 hours.
I couldn't agree anymore. ai is getting ahead of themselves with this article... I found it very deceiving.
Interesting. I had no idea - surely Gizmodo hasn't been lying to me.
I think when talking about Android people want to sound balanced, impartial and do not, under any circumstances be branded with the dreaded F word (fanboy).
So they overcompensate and end up exaggerating the importance of minor advantages Android had over iPhone while ignoring more significant and problematic flaws.
The other thing which bothers me about Android is that Google says 2x - 5x speed ups in Froyo. Yet many phones are artificially limited from upgrading to Froyo, either because the vendor hasn't felt like/got round to updating its custom skin, or the carrier hasn't pushed the update or some other reason.
So there is a huge number of Android devices out there which are artificially capped in performance thanks to poor software optimisations (if you can get 2x improvements on the same hardware that to me suggests the VM wasn't very well optimised to begin with**). If Apple had the same problem there would be a riot, yet for Android it gets a free pass.
** Off topic but in the interests of balance: the same logic applies to Snow Leopard. Some of the improvements there were a result of things being rushed to finished in Leopard.
Anyone have a feel for when the new OS will be posted? Is there a usual time (like Steve always plans stuff on Tuesday, usually)?
9to5mac states that:
Most industry watchers expect the new OS to ship at or near 10am Pacific Time.
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i tried a Nexus One with Froyo 2.2 for about 3 days before i went back to my 3Gs.....
there is absolutely NO comparison. iPhone FTW!!!!
No offense but, your comment is pretty predictable. Especially the last sentence.
I mean, I understand this is an Apple website and all. However, there is such thing as preferring Macs while liking a different phone OS (ie. me), or vice versa. So while, yes, iOS is great, I personally feel that there is an comparison after trying Android. Which isn't a bad thing.
The other thing which bothers me about Android is that Google says 2x - 5x speed ups in Froyo. Yet many phones are artificially limited from upgrading to Froyo, either because the vendor hasn't felt like/got round to updating its custom skin, or the carrier hasn't pushed the update or some other reason.
Froyo isn't officially out yet for the public, just the Nexus One. On another note, what does faster OS speeds haft to do with OEMs updating their to the latest OS?
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It's really funny to hear the Android fans say that fragmentation isn't a problem. My daughter just received a Motorola Backflip last week - and it's running Android 1.5. Motorola says that they hope to be able to update it to 2.1 'some day', but they're not even talking about 2.2. And that even assumes that the carrier supports it.
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GO SPAIN! You better win tonight's match!
It's really funny to hear the Android fans say that fragmentation isn't a problem. My daughter just received a Motorola Backflip last week - and it's running Android 1.5. Motorola says that they hope to be able to update it to 2.1 'some day', but they're not even talking about 2.2. And that even assumes that the carrier supports it.
Sigh... like I said, Froyo isn't out for the public yet. As for your daughter being stuck with 1.5, most Android applications still support the older versions. So it really isn't that big of a deal.
It's a RAM memory issue. iPhone 3G and iPodTouch 2G only have 128 Mbytes of RAM. Implementing either or both of these features would eat into that Valuable RAM space too much and make the device sluggish.
Although it is possible to achieve via jailbreaking, if you don't mind occasional crashes.
Phil
I'm actually not all up and in arms about multitasking as you may think, otherwise I would have gone on about that next. Its just wallpaper kinda bugging me. I've actually always thought Push Notifications was a welcome edition.
... When used. Yes, I'm talking to you Skype.
Sigh... like I said, Froyo isn't out for the public yet. As for your daughter being stuck with 1.5, most Android applications still support the older versions. So it really isn't that big of a deal.
I've got a Hero stuck on 1.5. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it is lacking a lot. The update to 2.1 is coming this month though, finally.
The speed up with 2.2 might not apply to those phones that are ARM11 based like the Hero. All the newer phones are Cortex A8 based though, so not a problem for them.
Anyone have a feel for when the new OS will be posted? Is there a usual time (like Steve always plans stuff on Tuesday, usually)?
Major updates are usually available around noon CST.
Tall Fat Free Soya Milk Frappucino
if you make that decaffeinated it's called a "why bother".
I'm just wondering whether to update today/tonight, or let this cook out in the wild for a week or so before upgrading? I've had great results on my MacPro at home with updates and upgrades, but this will be my first time thru a major upgrade on the iPhone. I have to say though that the new features sound incredibly enticing, especially being able to background audio apps. Maybe I can finally listen to Slacker/Pandora while running with iMapMyRun going.
WTF are you debating? Its just software. Run the update, use it. End of "dilemma"
It still says it on the Apple site and yet this list can only point to about 30 items.
I'm just wondering whether to update today/tonight, or let this cook out in the wild for a week or so before upgrading? I've had great results on my MacPro at home with updates and upgrades, but this will be my first time thru a major upgrade on the iPhone. I have to say though that the new features sound incredibly enticing, especially being able to background audio apps. Maybe I can finally listen to Slacker/Pandora while running with iMapMyRun going.
What the he'll are you all counting down to? The moment in which you wont be able to use a single damn feature of os 4 because there has been no effort of the part of developers or apple to get app store apps ready? Be prepared for disappointment because you are not going to see a bunch of updates suddenly appear after the os goes live. Its going to be a long sad launch with bad PR.
WTF are you debating? Its just software. Run the update, use it. End of "dilemma"
multi?