Apple adds Motorola Droid X to iPhone 4 death grip page

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  • Reply 181 of 278
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


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    If you hold the iPhone in a natural way, it won't suffer from this and won't drop calls. If you insist on holding your finger over the antenna, it will drop bars, but for the most part still won't drop the call. If you are in a marginal signal area while participating in such hijinks, you might drop the call.

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    The problem is that when those jokers put their hijinks up on YouTube, the Bloggers go into a feeding frenzy.



    This whole thing has been totally manufactured by the Bloggers. How can they sleep at night?



    The fact of the matter is that the iP4 gets the best reception of any phone, bar none. If you hold it in a natural manner, it will not drop calls. But not when you want to hold it in some bizarre manner. Then you get hits in your Blog instead.
  • Reply 182 of 278
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SendMe View Post


    The problem is that when those jokers put their hijinks up on YouTube, the Bloggers go into a feeding frenzy.



    This whole thing has been totally manufactured by the Bloggers. How can they sleep at night?



    The fact of the matter is that the iP4 gets the best reception of any phone, bar none. If you hold it in a natural manner, it will not drop calls. But not when you want to hold it in some bizarre manner. Then you get hits in your Blog instead.



    So...



    What exactly constitutes a 'natural manner', or are you unaware that human beings differ dramatically in the sizes, shapes, and comfort-levels of their hands and fingers...
  • Reply 183 of 278
    good job , apple ! fxxk them all...
  • Reply 184 of 278
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smallwheels View Post




    I do my best to avoid dealing with liars. If they lie once then they are likely to be lying about other things.






    That is an excellent policy. That is why all these whiners are trying to paint Steve as a liar - so that people will buy their products instead. Somehow, I don't think it will work. Everybody knows that Steve is NOT a liar.



    André Gil's Blog » Steve Jobs: From Genius to… Crazy and Liar?

    http://blog.andregil.net/2010/04/ste...razy-and-liar/



    Steve Jobs is a great liar « The Jason Calacanis Weblog

    http://calacanis.com/2005/10/12/stev...-a-great-liar/



    Lies, damn lies, and Steve Jobs keynotes | Technology | guardian.co.uk

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...esandstevejobs



    Steve Jobs Blatently Lies About iPhone 4 Underlying Issue

    http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology...per-steve-jobs



    Larry Page Calls Steve Jobs A Liar

    http://www.businessinsider.com/larry...history-2010-7



    Steve Jobs Is a Bald-Faced Liar - 'Nutritional problem' a crock ...

    http://www.newser.com/story/62725/st...aced-liar.html



    Andy Plesser: "Steve Jobs is an Excellent Liar,"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-p..._b_604127.html



    Jobs lies in "thoughts on Flash"

    http://www.blixtsystems.com/2010/04/...ghts-on-flash/



    iTunes Prize Winner Calls Steve Jobs a Liar!

    http://chris.pirillo.com/itunes-priz...e-jobs-a-liar/



    Steve Jobs' Big Fat Lies?

    http://www.muktware.com/blog/02/2010/154



    Apple, Liar, Liar Pants on Fire - iPhone 3G is not exactly the ...

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple...re-87931.shtml









    Every one of these Bloggers needs to learn not to print such bad stories!
  • Reply 185 of 278
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raymondinperth View Post


    good job , apple ! fxxk them all...



    ... and while your at it:



    Apple please re-engineer the iPhone4's antenna system (Suggestion: put it back inside the case where it's far less susceptible to easy attenuation) so that you won't feel the need to go around doing all this 'blaming others for your error' and 'damage control' that does more to make you look whiny and petty than anything else.



    I Know You Can Do It.
  • Reply 186 of 278
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by voodooru View Post




    drop your phone and crack or shatter it and bam! you're out of $199 for a replacement. no sympathy, you broke it you pay!











    Most everybody uses a case, so I don't think that will be a major problem.
  • Reply 187 of 278
    habanerohabanero Posts: 77member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    If my car's not working I don't care if it's the electrical system or the fuel system, all I care about is my car not working and I'll leave it to a mechanic to figure out why...



    And if the mechanic lied to you and says "don't worry; all cars do that; let me show you videos of a Mercedes not running, and another of a Lexus not running..." would you exhibit such lemming-like incuriousness?
  • Reply 188 of 278
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SendMe View Post


    Most everybody uses a case, so I don't think that will be a major problem.



    Sweeping 'generalizations' are most often incorrect...



    Any Actual Statistics... ?
  • Reply 189 of 278
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boeyc15 View Post


    Yes please teach us Prof... What is the correct or normal way to hold phone? The nerve.



    Steve was holding it normally and correctly during the Keynote:



    http://www.boncherry.com/blog/wp-con...steve-jobs.jpg





    Here is the DeathGrip, which is neither correct nor normal:

    http://images.apple.com/antenna/imag...g-20100715.jpg
  • Reply 190 of 278
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SendMe View Post


    Steve was holding it normally and correctly during the Keynote:



    http://www.boncherry.com/blog/wp-con...steve-jobs.jpg





    Here is the DeathGrip, which is neither correct nor normal:

    http://images.apple.com/antenna/imag...g-20100715.jpg



    ...



    Users should never have to be told how to hold their phone, as it should be engineered to function efficiently no matter how it's held (within reason).
  • Reply 191 of 278
    asianbobasianbob Posts: 797member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    It also won't have your iPhone Apps, that's if you've got any, enjoy your trip to the Android market, good luck finding replacements, don't forget to have your credit card handy.



    I have a friend that recently switched from the iPhone to a Droid Incredible. He had absolutely no issues finding replacement apps. As said before, there are also plenty of unique apps on the Market that aren't available in the App Store (Google Experience apps, home screen launchers, overclocking, themes, etc). If it's not there, it won't be long until it does show up. Plenty of the developers are adding in Android equivalent apps.



    And what do you mean about needing to have your credit card handy? As far as I can tell, you input it once and it remembers it for all future purchases, which is just like iTunes.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Habañero View Post


    And if the mechanic lied to you and says "don't worry; all cars do that; let me show you videos of a Mercedes not running, and another of a Lexus not running..." would you exhibit such lemming-like incuriousness?



    Not knowing at least what system's causing the issue and leaving it all up to the mechanic is a very dangerous thing to do indeed...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SendMe View Post


    Steve was holding it normally and correctly during the Keynote:



    http://www.boncherry.com/blog/wp-con...steve-jobs.jpg





    Here is the DeathGrip, which is neither correct nor normal:

    http://images.apple.com/antenna/imag...g-20100715.jpg



    I tried using "death grip" mode and it causes the fingers to be sandwiched uncomfortably against the face, as well as pushing the bottom of the phone away from the face. It's just awkward.
  • Reply 192 of 278
    bcs123bcs123 Posts: 46member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


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    Users should never have to be told how to hold their phone, as it should be engineered to function efficiently no matter how it's held (within reason).





    Why? Why should everything function any way anybody wants? A manufacturer makes something to function a certain way. If people like it, they buy it. If they don't, they complain as if apple owes them something. It functions well enough for most.
  • Reply 193 of 278
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bcs123 View Post


    Why? Why should everything function any way anybody wants? A manufacturer makes something to function a certain way. If people like it, they buy it. If they don't, they complain as if apple owes them something. It functions well enough for most.



    Cellular phones are hardly a new invention, nor is Apple's iPhone brand new to the market, and as such, there already exist a reasonable standard/expectation with regard to how it can be held and still function properly.



    Given that (again) human beings do come equipped with various hand/finger sizes, yes - including iPhone users, proper engineering would take this ergonomic variance into consideration without strictly dictating how the user must hold the phone.
  • Reply 194 of 278
    trajectorytrajectory Posts: 647member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RichL View Post


    Yes, correct. It's a light touch (reproducible with a single finger) rather than some kind of hard grip that causes problems with some iPhone 4 units.



    This is the difference between the iPhone 4 and other phones.



    And yet, Apple and others are still posting video after video showing someone purposefully gripping onto phones tight in order to show dropped bars. That's not the issue that was originally reported at all!



    Well, no, all the initial videos put online showed the phone being gripped, which is why this has been dubbed the "death grip." Then once the 3G-spot was discovered, a few videos surfaced showing how the signal could be degraded with a touch of the finger to a very specific location on the phone.
  • Reply 195 of 278
    applesauce007applesauce007 Posts: 1,622member
    I proved that his old Droid dropped signal to my colleague on the same day Apple had the "antenna-gate" meeting. His response was "Holy sh*t"



    Another Verizon fan (mutual colleague) got the new Droid X and was surprised to see it drop as well but vowed to stick with Verizon although he admits the iPhone is a nicer phone.



    I am hoping that Apple somehow comes up with a solution to this issue, gets a patent on it and then collect licensing fees from all the cell phone makers.



    Time will tell.
  • Reply 196 of 278
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post


    I proved that his old Droid dropped signal to my colleague on the same day Apple had the "antenna-gate" meeting. His response was "Holy sh*t"



    Another Verizon fan (mutual colleague) got the new Droid X and was surprised to see it drop as well but vowed to stick with Verizon although he admits the iPhone is a nicer phone.



    I am hoping that Apple somehow comes up with a solution to this issue, gets a patent on it and then collect licensing fees from all the cell phone makers.



    Time will tell.



    The solution already exists: Put The Antenna(s) Back Inside The Handset.



    Note: ...and there's probably no way to legitimately patent common sense.
  • Reply 197 of 278
    applesauce007applesauce007 Posts: 1,622member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    The solution already exists: Put The Antenna(s) Back Inside The Handset.



    Note: ...and there's probably no way to legitimately patent common sense.



    Well, Apple tends to innovate well beyond other competitors. They tend to shake things up with their designs instead of seating around endlessly in a "Me Too" position.



    That's why they re-invented the cell phone and re-invented the music industry and are leading the charge in mobile video conferencing amongst other things. That's why the competitors are mimicking Apple although poorly, as quickly as possible.



    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20...?tag=cnetRiver



    Time will tell.
  • Reply 198 of 278
    joguidejoguide Posts: 27member
    I just realized why this antennagate is getting such a long long play. It's like the Star Trek episode "Day of the Dove," where the Klingons and the crew of Enterprise mindlessly kill and maim each other day after day, not knowing that they are pawns of a malicious alien entity that thrive off the anger and hate.



    That is why this not issue is being kept alive by both Mac, Windows and Google blog sites. They don't care who is right, as long as it generates a lot of angry and repetitive debate. This is the ultimate flame bait for this year. It keeps bring people back wanting more of the same, feeding the blog. They must be making a killing off this topic.



    It's time to bury this issue. Nothing is solved and you guys have better things to do.



    "Out! We need no urging to hate humans. But for the present, only a fool fights in a burning house."

    - Kang to the entity, quoting a Klingon proverb



    JoeG
  • Reply 199 of 278
    prof. peabodyprof. peabody Posts: 2,860member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post


    ... I am hoping that Apple somehow comes up with a solution to this issue, gets a patent on it and then collect licensing fees from all the cell phone makers.



    Time will tell.



    Better yet, *don't* licence it once it's found (Apple rarely licences out their stuff anyway, especially hardware solutions).



    I mean all the other phones (according to their supporters), don't have this problem so why would they need to licence it?
  • Reply 200 of 278
    applesauce007applesauce007 Posts: 1,622member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joguide View Post


    I just realized why this antennagate is getting such a long long play. It's like the Star Trek episode "Day of the Dove," where the Klingons and the crew of Enterprise mindlessly kill and maim each other day after day, not knowing that they are pawns of a malicious alien entity that thrive off the anger and hate.



    That is why this not issue is being kept alive by both Mac, Windows and Google blog sites. They don't care who is right, as long as it generates a lot of angry and repetitive debate. This is the ultimate flame bait for this year. It keeps bring people back wanting more of the same, feeding the blog. They must be making a killing off this topic.



    It's time to bury this issue. Nothing is solved and you guys have better things to do.



    "Out! We need no urging to hate humans. But for the present, only a fool fights in a burning house."

    - Kang to the entity, quoting a Klingon proverb



    JoeG



    Yes. It's time to bury this issue but there is another side this story which also comes down to making money and involves Apple's competitors. Did you notice how quickly Nokia and others jumped on the "antenna-gate" wagon to prop up their cell phones knowing very well that their phones did the same thing?



    It is a "dog eat dog" world. Especially when you're in a leading position.



    Time will tell.
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