RIM plans to counter Apple's iPad with 'Blackpad' in November

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  • Reply 21 of 112
    to see if these other companies can get enough production up and enough devices into the market given the challenges that Apple had getting their supplies to market as well.



    With all the production issues that the various sources have reported - freighting them further with more demand for different devices will be a bit of a problem?
  • Reply 22 of 112
    It must gall them to have to do this. Whether it sells in great volume or not, the reality is Apple is forcing them into it.



    They just can't sit back and let Apple take total control of a mobile market that they were supposed to excel in.



    This mobile pad market is going to be huge. Something is better than nothing is guess.
  • Reply 23 of 112
    esummersesummers Posts: 953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smallwheels View Post


    Why would someone buy a Blackpad for the same price as an iPad when the Apple app store is so gigantic with a hundred thousand apps ready to go? Are RIM customers that loyal to a shrinking company? I'm all for competition but having the same type of device with similar features for the same price but with less capability out of the box won't work well. If it were priced $150 to $200 less then it would have a chance to do well.



    For 150 or 200 less they would probably have to give it an inferior screen, less battery life, etc.



    Interested to see if they actually managed to convince carriers of free coupling with a BB phone. You can bet Apple would do it if AT&T let them. That is really the only thing that may attract some people to it... don't see it really putting a dent in the iPad though.
  • Reply 24 of 112
    morkymorky Posts: 200member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Orlando View Post


    For businesses that are already heavily invested in Blackberries, it probably makes more sense to go with a Blackberry tablet than switch to iPads.



    No, it doesn't at all. What relation would and investment in Blackberrys have to tablets? Their only advantage is BES, and that would be basically irrelevant in a tablet.
  • Reply 25 of 112
    daveswdavesw Posts: 406member
    Prediction: The RIM BlackPad Will Crash And Burn Just Like The Storm





    http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/30...ike-the-storm/
  • Reply 26 of 112
    veblenveblen Posts: 201member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post




    *I think Black pad is not a very good name, but the rest of the comments above were meant in jest and were not intended to offend.



    Boo!!
  • Reply 27 of 112
    listen to what your customers want, and dont act like you are the only kid on the block,, as apple will learn just like sony did,, no one is irreplaceable, and oh ya get southern ontario another NHL team ,, that will be awesome also..
  • Reply 28 of 112
    dahlenudahlenu Posts: 15member
    I think this is good. The more viable platforms we have, the better.
  • Reply 29 of 112
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by northernale1 View Post


    listen to what your customers want, and dont act like you are the only kid on the block,, as apple will learn just like sony did,, no one is irreplaceable, and oh ya get southern ontario another NHL team ,, that will be awesome also..



    Hello?
  • Reply 30 of 112
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by northernale1 View Post


    easy for rim to beat apple

    listen to what your customers want, and dont act like you are the only kid on the block,, as apple will learn just like sony did,, no one is irreplaceable.



    1) How is it so easy? You didn?t explain why a company whose business model is similar to Apple?s (meaning, the produce the OS to go with the HW), yet has a weak app store, lacks the integration and technological know how of Apple, and deep pockets and brand recognition of Apple is going to make it ?easy for rim to beat apple?. An explanation would be nice.



    2) I?m sure Apple will eventually fall from being the most valuable tech company on the planet and will no longer make the products that all others are compared to within a set category, but that time doesn?t look to be within sight nor ?easily? achievable, especially for a company like RiM.



    3) If anyone will ?beat? Apple in any way on tablets I?d say that it will likely be Android OS, and that will be across all devices running that OS, not from all devices per each manufacturer or their revenue or profit, things companies and investors actually care about.
  • Reply 31 of 112
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Orlando View Post


    For businesses that are already heavily invested in Blackberries, it probably makes more sense to go with a Blackberry tablet than switch to iPads.



    Unfortunately, they should have been investing in this idea 3-5 years ago. Scrambling to do it now when Apple is already seeing a huge swath of enterprise groups moving to the iPhone and iPad it's just a matter of time when they finally move a portion to Macs.
  • Reply 32 of 112
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    RIM plans to counter Apple's iPad with 'Blackpad' in November



    Man, is this thing going to get HOT when used in sunlight. Not only will the "Blackpad" shut down, it'll be so hot, it'll shut down the entire internet!
  • Reply 33 of 112
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by esummers View Post


    For 150 or 200 less they would probably have to give it an inferior screen, less battery life, etc.



    One of the most important entry barriers -- and one of the least talked-about -- that Apple has created for new entrants is its ability to combine perception of quality with high profit margins. They have hardware profit margins that competitors would kill for but cannot match, and yet manage to do this with (generally) high-quality components, esp. the ones that are visible and more expensive.



    Competitors can't match Apple's prices since they cannot match its product differentiation, so they are left with only one choice in their quest to match Apple's margins: offer lower quality to offset the required lower prices.



    Some might ask: why should RIM bother with margins? I can bet you that financial markets, and as a result their CEO and Board, will look at any new product intro through the lens of Apple's profit margins; anything less would be internally viewed as a second-class product, and be punished by the financial market (as Nokia and its CEO discovered to their peril).



    Bottom line: Companies like RIM are trapped on both the cost end (inferior quality) and the price end (lack of product differentiation). The only way forward for them is to create a product category that Apple has not yet taken on, instead of these feeble me-too attempts.
  • Reply 34 of 112
    psych_guypsych_guy Posts: 486member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by veblen View Post


    Boo!!



    Could you please edit his comments out of yours? Those are not worth repeating here and apparently he edited his.
  • Reply 35 of 112
    freddychfreddych Posts: 266member
    It probably WILL crash and burn, but there is a chance that Blackberry really catches on with the corporate types. If they can replace laptops with ARM powered, super long battery life tablets that can run e-mail and Citrix, it would be a huge hit, IMO.



    Also, RIM's experience with corporate security would give it the credentials needed to really break into corporate use, something that Apple has lagged in doing (Apple has been picking up the pace in this regard).



    I know that many corporations have at least allowed their employees to use iPhones. Still, security is an issue. At many major law firms that take security more seriously than other organizations, iPhones are still shut out.
  • Reply 36 of 112
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Orlando View Post


    For businesses that are already heavily invested in Blackberries, it probably makes more sense to go with a Blackberry tablet than switch to iPads.



    Why? (Tablets are computers, not phones.)
  • Reply 37 of 112
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by freddych View Post


    I know that many corporations have at least allowed their employees to use iPhones. Still, security is an issue. At many major law firms that take security more seriously than other organizations, iPhones are still shut out.



    Why? iPhones are as secure as Blackberrys. They're also not subject to gatekeeper failure.
  • Reply 38 of 112
    huntercrhuntercr Posts: 140member
    How about the Graspberry? ( get it? )



    or the Juice ( the result of touching a blackberry )



    I'm joking of course, but do you realize that real marketing people sit around and have conversations like this all day long?
  • Reply 39 of 112
    That's an even worse name than iPad.
  • Reply 40 of 112
    macnycmacnyc Posts: 342member
    They will have to seriously improve their touch screen software, the Storm was a disaster!
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